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My opinion of Metro on Windows 8

Don’t get me wrong I think Metro is a beautiful UI for a touch interface, fantastic even, but only for a touch interface. The problem with Microsoft is they don’t think out of the box. They think everything needs the same UI. This is why, when in early 2001 / 2002 Gates tried to get tablets mainstream he failed. To him everything had to run windows. He took the Windows XP UI, added a few touch / pen enhancements on it and slapped it onto a laptop with a touch screen.

You just can’t take something that wasn’t made for touch and slap some touch modifications on top. That’s what happened with Windows Mobile 6.5. Sure on the surface touch worked but once you started to get back into the bowels of the OS you were met with a UI built for a stylus. Microsoft learned their lesson (or did they) and realized they had to build something from the ground up that was made for touch and geared towards the mobile market. Thus Windows Phone 7 OS was born.

Now along comes Metro on Windows 8 and back to the tablet market they go. So now they think, hmm…. We have Windows 7 which is a great OS, much like how they thought Windows Mobile 5 was a great OS, but just needed some touch enhancements. So now they build a touch interface on top of Windows 7. The problem is, the same thing is going to happen on Tablets, which happened on Windows Mobile devices when they tried to build a touch UI onto something that wasn’t built for the finger. Sure metro will be great, but once the user leaves Metro they are met with something that was made for a mouse and keyboard.

What they should have done, is taken the Windows Phone 7 OS, the OS that was made for touch inside and out and put it on their tablets. Having just said that, I’m going to get people that say “OH NOES, can’t do that, because people can’t be productive with the WP7 OS!”. My response to that is, anybody who wants to be productive is not going to be using a tablet and touching a screen with their finger. They are going to grab a laptop or go to their desktop which utilizes a mouse and keyboard.

Because Microsoft thinks that one OS and UI should rule them all they decided to bring the Metro UI designed for touch over to the desktop and laptop market. Essentially doing in reverse what they did to the tablet market back in 2001 /2002. In the early 2000’s they brought a mouse and keyboard UI to a tablet, and now they are bringing a touch UI to the mouse and keyboard.



I don't think Windows 8 Metro was a complete failure, but I understand where you're coming from. It's two platforms/interfaces in one OS, the desktop for mouse / keyboard, and Metro for touchscreen-oriented devices. I think the problem comes when they attempted to integrate these two interfaces, e.g. replacing the start menu with Metro.

If Metro was a separate platform that ran under Windows (think Windows Media Center), then things could have worked out much better. But Metro offers very little benefit for the desktop interface, and the desktop is still difficult to operate on touchscreen devices. Metro works for touchscreen because of large elements that are easy to click on. A mouse offers much more accurate point-and-click which makes it optimal for a desktop interface.
Personally, I think it sucks. Changing the already stable, usable, easy to use Windows interface to that crap is a big mistake. I hate touch screens. Nothing beats a mouse and keyboard, sorry. I hope Windows 8 doesn't turn out to be another Windows ME or Vista because they way the competition is getting, they will be in a world of hurts.
I love the tile interface for Tablet/Phone, but would I want that on my desktop. It depends. I use multiple monitors, i HOPE one of the features is that i can have ALL my tiles on the right monitor, and only have the left for games or apps or whatever with nothing on the desktop ill never see anyways. I think for an 'at a glance' view itll be better, cause you can have tiles for IM apps, email, etc. But interacting with it may be annoying. Having to hide apps to see your tiles and all that.

I plan on getting a Windows 8 Tablet for sure, but i'm not sure about on my PC.
I agree with what you're saying except that I also think Metro is a horrible UI. We seem to be going backwards with this flat, square look. But that's just my opinion.
I think Metro is nice, but only for mobile devices like the mobile phone and tablets, but not the desktop. It seems, that the metro apps are only available in full-screen mode. I personally have no need for my desktop to be only available for two full-screen apps. Now, if you can make the application windowed, then I don't mind it.
I agree, i think Microsoft have to realise not everything has to be the same, you can have individuality whilst still keeping within the product branding. Take apple, the iPhone (iOS) has a different UI when compared to the Mac.

I can see how metro works well with touch devices. I used a WP7 to review for two weeks and found the UI intuitive, fast and generally good to use, i think on a tablet it would work well. However i don't think it will work with desktops, i think if anything it might confuse users, expecting a touch experience and getting frustrated with using Metro with a mouse.

Personally i would like to see Microsoft spend more time on productivity improvements in Windows 8 desktop UX. I love aero snap and aero peek, i would love to see microsoft continue with these.
Interesting thoughts. I agree that tablet users would have difficulty using the old desktop side of Windows 8 on their tablets. I think Microsoft realizes this and intends for Windows 8's implementation of Metro to be a complete tablet OS UI. Could you name something in particular that is easier with Windows Phone 7 than with Windows 8? I don't know of any features Metro lacks that a phone UI wouldn't also lack. My point is that the tablet user gets the same experience they would get with an OS written from scratch for touch--because its UI was.

I think an OS with both UIs is necessary to support convertible tablets with keyboards and trackpads. It's also nice to have the desktop interface available on a tablet when the unexpected need arises.

Scorbing, on 14 January 2012 - 16:00, said:

Personally, I think it sucks. Changing the already stable, usable, easy to use Windows interface to that crap is a big mistake. I hate touch screens. Nothing beats a mouse and keyboard, sorry. I hope Windows 8 doesn't turn out to be another Windows ME or Vista because they way the competition is getting, they will be in a world of hurts.

I agree it's the worst idea in the world.
Warwagon, you hit the nail on the head; Microsoft is doing what it did with XP tablet a decade ago, and I think it's not going to be popular, again. What I don't understand is why they feel it's needed? Did someone think, "Touch is the future of all computing" and so figured they'd be one step ahead of the game? Touch is not the future of normal desktop computing; the monitor is upright and not always within your hand's reach. Even if it was, you still need a UI that is mouse/keyboard-centric, since that's what people are used to using. This isn't the world of Minority Report (maybe that's the problem; somebody at Microsoft watched it and thought, 'this is the way to go!!') where computers are these huge screens that you stand up to. That's still a somewhat distant future technology. I hope they give the option during setup to stick to the Desktop environment, and have the option of only the Metro start screen as like a screen saver / logon screen. I like the other improvements in Windows 8: the new copy/move dialog, the new task manager, even the new Explorer. But that Tablet/ Smartphone UI on a Desktop PC is just wonky and out of place.
Sounds like you'd make an excellent project manager ... well said!
Why does Microsoft name their **** like that? Windows Server 8? Umm, it's Windows 8, Sever edition, therefore Windows 8 Server, same way for phone. should be Windows 7 Phone. God.
Don't forget that Microsoft FORCE users to go for Metro with deleting Start Menu/Button and force desktop application to open in Metro UI like Adobe PDF.
NO Microsoft! You can't force us!!!! Give us choice to choose for ourselves, I want to disable Metro on my PC and want only old style desktop for my work.
I only have one word for it FUGLY