| Vista SP1 Has NSA Backdoor?, No, not the old XP myth | |
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| Post #31 Dec 19 2007, 21:41 | |
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Neowinian³  Group: Banned Posts: 413 Joined: 29-November 07 From: Where no man has gone before. Member No.: 242,455 
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America is slowly turning to China one day at a time
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| Post #32 Dec 19 2007, 21:43 | |
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Certified Physicist  Group: Registered Posts: 968 Joined: 13-March 04 Member No.: 50,106
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Yeah, as far as I can tell, there is no evidence that Vista uses this standard. Most sources only mention the NSA standard, the the critisism it received. The source article provides no evidence that its connected to Vista in any way. I think this is junk news.
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| Post #33 Dec 19 2007, 21:49 | |
Neowinian UNSTOPPABLE   Group:  VeteranPosts: 6,241 Joined: 26-June 04 From: Britain Member No.: 60,405
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It is interesting to note that the NSA offer a Security Enhanced Linux distro of their own which is (1) highly secure, (2) free (of course) and (3) presumably has no backdoors (source code is freely available too, of course).
This does not of course mean that they don't have backdoors left right and centre in closed source things like Windows. 
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| Post #34 Dec 19 2007, 21:51 | |
Unknown  Group: Banned Posts: 1,596 Joined: 10-May 05 Member No.: 109,756
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Quote - (BigBoy @ Dec 19 2007, 10:54)  Someone ordered too many tin foil hats. +1 |
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| Post #35 Dec 19 2007, 22:28 | |
Neowinian UNSTOPPABLE Group: Restricted (News) Posts: 6,132 Joined: 7-August 03 From: My favourite doll... Member No.: 34,079
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Too many tin foil hats? When the US uses razor blades on people's genitals in Guantanamo Bay I have absolutely no doubt that the NSA would do this sort of thing... whether they actually have included a backdoor is another matter.
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| Post #36 Dec 20 2007, 00:20 | |
IT'S A SERIES OF TUBES!!!  Group: Registered Posts: 2,573 Joined: 8-April 03 From: Portland, OR Member No.: 25,569
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This isn't a Vista issue, it's an issue with the elliptic curve standard. This story came out, minus the sensationalism, months ago
Also, this isn't an issue about Microsoft (or anybody else) giving "keys" to the NSA. It's a random number generator, so it's not supposed to even have a key. The issue is that the NSA might have changed the elliptic curve referenced in the name in order to make it more predictable and easier to crack. |
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| Post #37 Dec 20 2007, 00:33 | |
Neowinian DOMINATING  Group: Registered Posts: 9,416 Joined: 24-April 05 Member No.: 107,134
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Quote - (theyarecomingforyou @ Dec 19 2007, 12:30) Because the NSA should have no special ability to get into systems, especially for non-US citizens. If this is true then it's yet another case of the US thinking it is superior to the rest of the world. I have more faith in China having access to my personal information than I do the US, which only goes to show how poorly I rate the US government / government agencies. In terms of privacy, China's definitely not better than the US, at least not yet. At most they're about the same. Quote - (memodude @ Dec 19 2007, 16:20) This isn't a Vista issue, it's an issue with the elliptic curve standard. This story came out, minus the sensationalism, months ago Also, this isn't an issue about Microsoft (or anybody else) giving "keys" to the NSA. It's a random number generator, so it's not supposed to even have a key. The issue is that the NSA might have changed the elliptic curve referenced in the name in order to make it more predictable and easier to crack. Yea I heard about that too, the new standards are pretty pathetic. Hopefully if windows does use it we'll be able to patch it to another generator. |
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| Post #38 Dec 20 2007, 01:06 | |
Neowinian²  Group: Registered Posts: 133 Joined: 26-December 05 From: Perth, Western Australia Member No.: 147,058
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Quote - (James7 @ Dec 20 2007, 06:49) Damn, you'd think that being the NSA, they'd be able to create a website that doesn't look like ass.
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| Post #39 Dec 20 2007, 11:56 | |
||guru||  Group: Registered Posts: 5,069 Joined: 19-August 02 From: Washington,US (on Assignment) Member No.: 16,950
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Quote - (memodude @ Dec 20 2007, 05:50) This isn't a Vista issue, it's an issue with the elliptic curve standard. This story came out, minus the sensationalism, months ago but, you gotta have an article that bashes Vista everyday 
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| Post #40 Dec 20 2007, 12:48 | |
Resident Elite Group: Registered Posts: 1,171 Joined: 23-December 04 From: Canada Member No.: 87,206
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Quote - (theyarecomingforyou @ Dec 19 2007, 15:30) I have more faith in China having access to my personal information than I do the US, which only goes to show how poorly I rate the US government / government agencies. hahaha you're kidding right? |
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| Post #41 Dec 20 2007, 18:54 | |
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Resident Boiled Cabbage  Group: Moderator Posts: 6,310 Joined: 2-August 06 From: Greenville, SC Member No.: 175,510
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Quote - (ichi @ Dec 19 2007, 14:48) The NSA is an USA agency (or whatever) while Windows is distributed worldwide. Does it really still not matter? No, it still doesn't. If you live in the EU, don't think the NSA won't make a phone call and have your PC inspected anyway. 
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| Post #42 Dec 20 2007, 19:02 | |
Ask And You Shall Recieve Group: Banned Posts: 5,915 Joined: 31-May 06 From: USA. Missouri Member No.: 168,551
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Quote - (somethingthatrhymes @ Dec 19 2007, 21:06) Damn, you'd think that being the NSA, they'd be able to create a website that doesn't look like ass. +1! 
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| Post #43 Dec 20 2007, 19:11 | |
Akihabara Style Group: Registered Posts: 2,347 Joined: 20-December 04 Member No.: 86,755
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Quote - (GreyWolfSC @ Dec 20 2007, 19:54) No, it still doesn't. If you live in the EU, don't think the NSA won't make a phone call and have your PC inspected anyway. They'd have to go through my country's authorities, who might either agree or politely tell them to f*ck off depending on the reasons and proof. And then again you are just considering MY computer, government computers would obviously not be handed to the NSA no matter how kindly they ask. So yes, it still does matter. |
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