Need help with Wi-FI (Three router config)

[Seketh]

Hi guys,

 

So I've got the following setup;

 

ISP Router (Internet/Wi-Fi Disabled) -> TP-Link WDR4300 (PPPoE) -> Powerline -> TP-Link WR841N.

 

Now, I have my main PC connected with LAN to the WR841N, and I my Wi-Fi clientes to connect to the same Wi-Fi network.

 

How do I achieve this? Enabling WDS Bridging seems to disable the powerline connection (ping increases). It seems my PC, even while connected with LAN,starts using the Wi-Fi Bridging instead of the powerline connection.

 

Do I just set both routers as AP, with the same Wi-Fi settings? Is this the best way?

[riahc3]

1: Are all these devices cabled? I hope you are not doing wireless bridging as that cuts bandwidth by half.

2: Can we get a model on that ISP router?

Basically you should only set up one device as a router: TL-WR841N. Your TP-Link WDR4300 should be the AP.

The ISP router should be connected to the phone jack and to the TL-WR841N and the TL-WR841N should initiate the PPPoE connection using the ISP router's modem. The ISP router should be in bridge mode. Your powerline (again models please) would hang off the TL-WR841N and connect to the WDR4300 as well.

[sc302 Veteran]

The easiest way to accomplish this is to have the routers on the same network

 

Inside ip of the isp router: 192.168.1.1

Inside ip of the WDR4300: 192.168.1.2

Inside iip of the WR841N:  192.168.1.3

 

DHCP range 192.168.1.100-254

 

Turn off DHCP on the WDR4300 and the WR841N

Do not use/tape off the internet/wan port on the WDR4300 and WR841N

The SSID on bot the WDR4300 and WR841N are both home-wifi to allow near seamless roaming. 

[xendrome]

ISP Router (Internet/Wi-Fi Disabled) -> TP-Link WDR4300 (PPPoE) -> Powerline -> TP-Link WR841N

 

Should be setup as:

 

ISP Router (Placed into Bridge mode) -> TP-Link WDR4300 acts as your WAN/LAN Router -> Powerline Adapter -> Switch.

 

Are you also running 3 NAT enabled devices? You've got to make some changes..

[Original Poster]

i do this all the time, if cabled it should not be a problem, plug and play normally for me especially if using basic home devices....the only thing you will have to sort out is your nat. use them as a wireless switch not a router and it will work fine, if you need a router then you are looking at a little more config as you will essentially be using your primary internet connection/router as a wan :) I just got my TPlink Wireless switch today :D to set up my wireless pen lab

[riahc3]

i do this all the time, if cabled it should not be a problem, plug and play normally for me especially if using basic home devices

Yes, in theory, all of this should work plug and play but its not configured the best way nor is it optimal.

[Original Poster]

Yes, in theory, all of this should work plug and play but its not configured the best way nor is it optimal.

oh ye, I agree as I said nat would be an issue, though I do not see for generic purposes how you would get much more optimisation out of a wireless switch (assuming its not used for layer 3, OH and I agree with you wireless bridging is a NO NO big no) 

[Seketh]

Late reply (sorry, completely forgot I made the thread) :blush:

 

I ended up doing the following setup:

 

ISP Router Thomson TG784n [DHCP Enabled for 2 IPVBoxes / Internet disabled / Wi-Fi disabled.]

         |

[LAN to WAN]    

         |

         v

 

TP-Link WDR4300 (Set IP to 192.168.2.1 / PPPOE Internet Connection / DHCP Enabled / HW NAT Enabled / Wi-Fi Enabled - Channel 6)

        |

[LAN through Powerline -> TP-Link TL-PA4010P ->  TL-PA4010P 500MB (100MB LAN)]

        |

       v

 

TP-Link WR841n (Working as LAN Switch/Wi-FI AP: / IP 192.168.2.2 / DHCP Disabled / Firewall Disabled / Wi-Fi Enabled (same settings) - Channel 11)

 

Is this the optimal config? (I promise I won't forget to reply this time :D) Is there anything else to disable to improve network performance?

[sc302 Veteran]

looks fine. is something not working right?

[+BudMan MVC]

how do you have "internet disabled" on your isp router??

[Seketh]

looks fine. is something not working right?

 

Overall, it's working fine. Just wanted to know if there are enabled settings that might be slowing down network performance or cause conflicts.

 

 

how do you have "internet disabled" on your isp router??

 

It's just that the ISP router settings literally call it "internet acess". You disable that and no more web access. I don't know the technical name of what I'm disabling.

 

ISP Router still synchronizes with the ADSL line, and IPTV boxes only work without issues when connected to it.