Windows 8 and Windows 8.1 see drop in their market share

[Nomad_]

Windows 8 and Windows 8.1 see drop in their market share, as Windows 7 continues to gain momentum.

 

http://www.winbeta.org/news/windows-8-and-windows-81-see-drop-their-market-share-windows-7-continues-gain-momentum

 

 

The market share of Windows 8 and Windows 8, instead of trickling up, suffered a drop last month. The Windows 8.x is now running on 12.26% of computers around the world, according to the latest data by Net Applications. The month of September has ended, and as usually the ever so reliable Net Market Share has evaluated the performance of various operating systems.

 

Starting with the current operating system, Windows 8.1 which had 7.09% of market share at the end of August, has slid to 6.67% according to the latest data. Windows 8 has also suffered a drop, going down from 6.28% to 5.59%. The drop in the Windows 8.x market share is shocking, as the operating systems had been showing improvement since last couple of months.

 

[techbeck]

Not surprising.  Most people seem to prefer Win7.  I see that changing once 10 rolls out tho and wouldnt be surprised to see 10 quickly surpass 8.

[+Anarkii Subscriber²]

I'd be VERY surprised if 10 doesn't surpass 8. 

After all, 10 is what everyone has been asking for since Windows 8 came out. I would think if Mircosoft keep doing what they are doing, Windows 10 could actually outsell Windows 7.

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Windows 8 and Windows 8.1 see drop in their market share as Windows 7 continues to gain momentum

 

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Windows 10 could actually outsell Windows 7.

With Metro, no. People didn't just miss a Start menu.

[technord]

Where are all those people who said the start menu would never return? and that Windows was fantastic without it?

 

They seem to have gone very quiet!

[Hum]

How is that possible .... :p

[Max Norris]

With Metro, no. People didn't just miss a Start menu.

Start menu, check,  Windowed modern apps that behave just like regular programs, check.  Same workflow as previous versions, check.  What's left to complain about?

[simonlang]

Windows 8 and Windows 8.1 see drop in their market share as Windows 7 continues to gain momentum

 

 

it's not that shocking that in todays times, not everyone gets the latest OS by time. i understand people still using 7, while not judge win8 at all.

but the numbers for win xp are horrible, dangerous, shocking and should not be tolerated. and ms would have the possibilities to change that, instead they are doing a half-hearted update-stop which can be overcome by registry hack. here they show they prefer market share over anything else. very bad behavior.

[Max Norris]

but the numbers for win xp are horrible, dangerous, shocking and should not be tolerated. and ms would have the possibilities to change that, instead they are doing a half-hearted update-stop which can be overcome by registry hack. here they show they prefer market share over anything else. very bad behavior.

And they can force people to upgrade old systems how exactly?  It's not exactly a unique problem to Windows either.. some people just don't upgrade.

[simonlang]

And they can force people to upgrade old systems how exactly?  It's not exactly a unique problem to Windows either.. some people just don't upgrade.

 

by really switching the update servers off, you know a common way in linux scene.

also ms, because they usually ask for a lot of money for their products, would have the possibility to hand out cheap win7 or win 8 updates, or give them for free.

fact remains, win xp has more security holes and unfixed bugs than all other OS combined easily, and the fact that over 24% use that still makes it so dangerous.

even on a proven windows fanpage like neowin people often warned others about still using winxp and rightfully so.

[Max Norris]

by really switching the update servers off, you know a common way in linux scene.

Yea, and that doesn't solve the problem, at all.  Those old systems are still running old OS's.  And the "Linux scene" isn't exactly perfect either.  Just look at the large number of systems that are still vulnerable to the Heartbleed bug to disprove that fallacy.  Sorry, not everybody updates, even if it's free, plain and simple.  Bad practice, sure, but that's reality for you.

fact remains, win xp has more security holes and unfixed bugs than all other OS combined easily, and the fact that over 24% use that still makes it so dangerous.

I wouldn't go throwing stones there either, Linux ranks *very* high on the number of exploits/holes over the years, in fact it's in the top spot for all time vulnerabilities, just saying.

[simonlang]

Yea, and that doesn't solve the problem, at all.  Those old systems are still running old OS's.  And the "Linux scene" isn't exactly perfect either.  Just look at the large number of systems that are still vulnerable to the Heartbleed bug to disprove that fallacy.  Sorry, not everybody updates, even if it's free, plain and simple.  Bad practice, sure, but that's reality for you.

 

it can't be that difficult.- if ms can pop up boxes after 30 days of trial that you are running now an expired copy of windows and have to register, they could also do something that kind with win xp. there is always a way ... ms could also use their excellent contacts to the press to promote way more to go from xp to 7 or 8 or 10 now. the thing is, while the linux scene is also not perfect (not is the apple scene), that even with  a marketshare only a bit over 1%, there is so much more dedication to the fact that security is not only a need for the software/hardware combo, but also a basic right for the user. and bugs are fixed the same day, the next day latest. while apple users are still waiting for a bashbleed fix and no one seriously would like to start thinking what backdoors and other stuff ms is hiding in their code.

[Max Norris]

it can't be that difficult.- if ms can pop up boxes after 30 days of trial that you are running now an expired copy of windows and have to register, they could also do something that kind with win xp.

They already did quite some time ago. Like I said, you can't force people to upgrade.

 

ms could also use their excellent contacts to the press to promote way more to go from xp to 7 or 8 or 10 now.

They're doing that too.

 

there is so much more dedication to the fact that security is not only a need for the software/hardware combo, but also a basic right for the user. and bugs are fixed the same day, the next day latest. while apple users are still waiting for a bashbleed fix and no one seriously would like to start thinking what backdoors and other stuff ms is hiding in their code.

Tin foil hat propaganda aside, all the bug fixes in the world don't mean jack if, again, the users aren't actually upgrading. Like I said before, just look at Heartbleed. It's still a big issue. Oh, and supposedly the Bash thing isn't 100% fixed yet either, there's a few open CVE's yet on that.

[Avi Patel]

and this is why Microsoft went the route of windows 10.....

david pierce should look at this.  that guy just lost all of his credibility when he wrote that piece on windows 10 on the verge yesterday. 

[simonlang]

or even simpler. ms let's go rolling release.... there would be so many possibilities out there to really fix that win xp problem, no matter if users want to upgrade or not. but as i said before, i think ms really wants marketshare before anything else and probably can live very well with the backdoors included in win xp.

 

any pc online(power and internet) will be somehow unsecure, that's not what i would have wanted to debate. there is a reason why even the linux scene, where you can't really say all they have an interest for is monetary gain by selling the latest release, wants users to be up2date. security matters and ms is doing a very bad job there, as can be seen with winxp market share.

[Max Norris]

i think ms really wants marketshare before anything else and probably can live very well with the backdoors included in win xp.

That doesn't even make sense -- I dunno about you, but I'd think they would prefer having people actually buying the newer versions versus making absolutely nothing on people who refuse to upgrade.

 

there is a reason why even the linux scene, where you can't really say all they have an interest for is monetary gain by selling the latest release, wants users to be up2date. security matters and ms is doing a very bad job there, as can be seen with winxp market share.

Apples and oranges man, never mind ignoring paid Linux installs. (RHEL for example isn't exactly cheap.) Again, you can't twist somebody's arm and force them to upgrade. It's painfully obvious in Windows, and it's just as obvious in Linux. Both operating systems provide security updates... but they don't mean a thing if people don't actually install them.

[Chicane-UK Veteran]

Where are all those people who said the start menu would never return? and that Windows was fantastic without it?

 

They seem to have gone very quiet!

 

Not all of them, unfortunately.

 

However most less blinkered folks see this for what it is.. the sight of furious back-pedaling to appease Enterprise customers who had zero interest in the touch focused start screen, and the acceptance that as a concept, it didn't really work that well. 

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Here's how to cut that XP figure down significantly, FAST (and make $$$ at the same time):

 

Instead of showing this:

Display:

 

 

XP users worldwide: upgrade to Windows 7 for just $50! Buy and download your copy today.

Physical media will incur a processing charge of $15. Before buying, be sure to run the (link) Windows 7 upgrade advisor.

(link) Why upgrade?

[Davo]

glen8, on 01 Oct 2014 - 05:42, said:

Where are all those people who said the start menu would never return? and that Windows was fantastic without it?

 

They seem to have gone very quiet!

 

Realizing that Microsoft listens to whiners ala XBox One and just accepting it

[vcfan]

Where are all those people who said the start menu would never return? and that Windows was fantastic without it?

[simplezz]

And people call Android fragmented lol. Take a look at that piechart ^^

[Max Norris]

And people call Android fragmented lol. Take a look at that piechart ^^

Sure, but there's a difference in choosing not to upgrade and being unable to upgrade, and barring XP those older versions still get security updates, unlike Android.

[techbeck]

Sure, but there's a difference in choosing not to upgrade and being unable to upgrade, and barring XP those older versions still get security updates, unlike Android.

 

Depends.  A lot of Google Apps are no longer integrated in to the OS.  So they are Dled and updated now via the Appstore  HTC is starting to do this with their apps as well.  And there have been cases where older version of Android have been patched.  Granted, this isnt on the same scale as MS.

 

 

Display:

 

 

XP users worldwide: upgrade to Windows 7 for just $50! Buy and download your copy today.

Physical media will incur a processing charge of $15. Before buying, be sure to run the (link) Windows 7 upgrade advisor.

(link) Why upgrade?

 

Lots would call it spam and advertising they dont want.  People thought the prompt for EOL of XP was annoying...this wouldnt fare much better.

 

MS has done what they needed to do and now anything is on the user.

[Skiver Veteran]

Here's how to cut that XP figure down significantly, FAST (and make $$$ at the same time):

 

Instead of showing this:

Display:

 

 

XP users worldwide: upgrade to Windows 7 for just $50! Buy and download your copy today.

Physical media will incur a processing charge of $15. Before buying, be sure to run the (link) Windows 7 upgrade advisor.

(link) Why upgrade?

 

 

RIGHT, because if I got a pop up saying click here and pay me money I'd be clicking that thing like a mad man  :/

 

The world needs to learn NOT to click pop-ups!