The organic genderless gingerbread debate


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#BBCtrending: The organic genderless gingerbread debate

 

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The traditional gingerbread "man" has been re-imagined by a Melbourne bakery, leading to a surge of irritation on web forums. But what does the debate tell us about the politics of the internet?

 

Ethically aware, health-conscious liberals rejoice. The patriarchal stranglehold on baked treats has been broken at last. But not everyone is celebrating.

 

This picture - of a row of emasculated gingerbread men - was shared on the web forum Reddit on Tuesday. As the sign makes clear, they're organic, they're gender-neutral and, of course, they're vegan. The post, titled "So this is what the world is coming to...," attracted more than 2,000 comments in just a few hours. The picture was also widely shared on Facebook, and the internet discussion prompted one British newspaper to declare, sarcastically, that "genderless gingerbread figures are a thing now".

 

The picture itself appears to have been taken at a delicatessen in Melbourne, Australia. We've been unable to contact the owners, but - from the use of the word "genderless" alone - it seems fair to assume the message is tongue-in-cheek. That didn't stop Redditors, and others, taking umbrage with the idea. Comments like "That's so politically correct it makes my brain hurt," and "just wait, next they wont have ginger so as not to offend," sum up the tenor of the conversation. Though some appeared to find it funny, the overwhelming emotion was one of annoyance.

 

The debate over "political correctness", and polarised views on what's good to eat, are hardly new, But the debate did highlight the way different social media platforms tend to take different sides on cultural debates. Anger over the healthy gingerbread "person" was driven by Reddit users, who are regularly criticised by feminists for their attitudes. Sure enough, one Reddit user said these were "feminist cookies," and another said "I blame Tumblr for this" - a reference to a perceived rivalry between users of Reddit and Tumblr, a popular blogging platform.

 

Of course, both Reddit and Tumblr have users with a broad spectrum of political views, but common stereotypes are that Tumblr bloggers are over-sensitive, female, social justice campaigners (or "Tumblrinas"), whereas Redditors are aggressive, sexist, and male. A number of people in the conversation posted links to "TumblrInAction", a section of the Reddit website that pokes fun at Tumblr blogs that supposedly fit the stereotype. And to counter them, others posted "I blame ****RedditSays" - a self-parodying section of the Reddit website, where Redditors themselves pick out quotes that play up to their own negative image.

 

Source: BBC News

 

I'm more amused than anything by the picture. It has to be satire.

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I'm inclined to think it was supposed to be a bit of mockery or satire. It doesn't surprise me that reddit went into full retard mode over this.

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Could be a joke, but if not, then... :/

 

I say scientists should speed up their genetic researches so that we can turn ourselves into something like the asari from mass effect and end this freaking gender nonsense. /s

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Wouldn't gingerbread "man" already be politically correct? Just as "man"kind is the politically correct term for referring to the human race?

Actually, humankind is the gender neutral way to say it. Mankind is oppressive to women.

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Actually, humankind is the gender neutral way to say it. Mankind is oppressive to women.

I'm gonna go with the dictionary and say "mankind" is a politically correct way of referring to the human race as a whole.

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Actually, humankind is the gender neutral way to say it. Mankind is oppressive to women.

 

Actually, Mankind is opressive to any wrestler and... oh wait.

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Actually, humankind is the gender neutral way to say it. Mankind is oppressive to women.

I pretty sure that i accidentally read feminist pout why its humankind and not huwomankind.

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I'm gonna go with the dictionary and say "mankind" is a politically correct way of referring to the human race as a whole.

http://io9.com/5962243/think-twice-before-using-mankind-to-mean-all-humanity-say-scholars

 

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Words are what they mean right now, and over the past forty years "humanity" has become more acceptable than "mankind" if you want to refer to all human beings, both male and female.

Or, as Pareles put it succinctly, "In my opinion, 'humanity' and 'humankind' are the appropriate words in contemporary English."

 

...and I was also being sarcastic in my original comment...  Words are meant to communicate so if you use a word and everyone knows what you mean then it should be fine.  If you use a word to purposefully be hurtful then you deserve to be called out.  I think everyone should understand when someone says mankind they're not trying to say something like women don't matter.

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As long as they keep their hands off my croque madame/monsieur.

 

They can do whatever they want with Mr. Coffee, though.

 

I expect them to have renamed ladyfingers, while they were at it.

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As long as they keep their hands off my croque madame/monsieur.

 

They can do whatever they want with Mr. Coffee, though.

 

I expect them to have renamed ladyfingers, while they were at it.

You mean Ocra? :p

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So, if were gonna go 100% PC, can someone tell me where I can order some organic, lightly spiced sweetbread biscuits shaped roughly like a bipedal lifeform of no fixed gender?

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