Mockingbird Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 As previously reported, Microsoft is making the successor to the Surface 2, but with low-power Intel processor. The upcoming "Surface" 3 will pack Intel Atom processor specifically Cherry Trail according to both Zac Bowden of WinBeta and John Callaham of Windows Central. The device will also have 4G LTE in some variations. https://twitter.com/ZacB_/status/581440017505083392 http://www.windowscentral.com/microsoft-will-reveal-new-surface-tablet-build-2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ci7 Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 (edited) As previously reported, Microsoft is making the successor to the Surface 2, but with low-power Intel processor. The upcoming "Surface" 3 will pack Intel Atom processor specifically Cherry Trail according to both Zac Bowden of WinBeta and John Callaham of Windows Central. The device will also have 4G LTE in some variations. https://twitter.com/ZacB_/status/581440017505083392 http://www.windowscentral.com/microsoft-will-reveal-new-surface-tablet-build-2015 that should be surface 4 not 3 or am i imagining stuffs? http://www.microsoftstore.com/store/msusa/en_US/pdp/Surface-Pro-3/productID.300190600 nevermind i failed to read Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ci7 Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 but still kind weird situation when you are going to launch Surface 3 and Surface 4 Pro the later would make the former look outdated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psion7 Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 I wonder if an x86 Surface from day one would have allowed the product to succeed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vcfan Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 I wonder if an x86 Surface from day one would have allowed the product to succeed? are you living under a rock? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psion7 Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 are you living under a rock? eh? Surface is ARM based Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vcfan Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 eh? Surface is ARM based my bad,i thought you meant the surface line as a whole Psion7 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psion7 Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 my bad,i thought you meant the surface line as a whole Exactly my point! Even people here confuse the Surface product range. It was an epic fail by Microsoft IMHO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mockingbird Posted March 29, 2015 Author Share Posted March 29, 2015 Psion7, on 29 Mar 2015 - 13:17, said:Psion7, on 29 Mar 2015 - 13:17, said:Psion7, on 29 Mar 2015 - 13:17, said: I wonder if an x86 Surface from day one would have allowed the product to succeed? And what processors would Microsoft have used? Single-core Intel Atom Lincroft processors? Microsoft make Surface tablets with ARM processors because Intel didn't have anything to offer. Aergan and LaP 2 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vcfan Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 Exactly my point! Even people here confuse the Surface product range. It was an epic fail by Microsoft IMHO. i liked surface rt personally, and i think it was the correct naming scheme. surface 2, true it made more sense to call it that if it was x86 based with lesser specs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaP Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 I wonder if an x86 Surface from day one would have allowed the product to succeed? Yes and no. There's a market for "cheap" media consumption tablets running arm. The problem was not really releasing arm tablets but pretending windows 8 arm tablets (RT) were better for working than any other arm tablets. They forgot not only office is used to work. RT store is really too much lacking to pretend a RT tablet is better for working than an iPad. My sister's daughter bought one thinking it would be good to work. She replaced it after 2-3 months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psion7 Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 i liked surface rt personally, and i think it was the correct naming scheme. surface 2, true it made more sense to call it that if it was x86 based with lesser specs. It was a nice device but the execution was just awful. It was an awful experience with jumping in and out of the desktop, etc. Yes and no. There's a market for "cheap" media consumption tablets running arm. The problem was not really releasing arm tablets but pretending windows 8 arm tablets (RT) were better for working than any other arm tablets. They forgot not only office is used to work. RT store is really too much lacking to pretend a RT tablet is better for working than an iPad. My sister's daughter bought one thinking it would be good to work. She replaced it after 2-3 months. Yup. It was crap. Clearly they rushed a product out of the door which was a stupid decision and it just hurt the Surface brand as a whole and now they are in the position of having to make people think these crappy tablets are now good. Gonna be hard work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mockingbird Posted March 29, 2015 Author Share Posted March 29, 2015 Ci7, on 29 Mar 2015 - 13:13, said:Ci7, on 29 Mar 2015 - 13:13, said: but still kind weird situation when you are going to launch Surface 3 and Surface 4 Pro the later would make the former look outdated. Don't worry. Microsoft would rather you buy the Surface Pro 4 than the Surface 3. The more premium product generally have better profit margin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaP Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 It was a nice device but the execution was just awful. It was an awful experience with jumping in and out of the desktop, etc. Yup. It was crap. Clearly they rushed a product out of the door which was a stupid decision and it just hurt the Surface brand as a whole and now they are in the position of having to make people think these crappy tablets are now good. Gonna be hard work. It hurt the brand when it comes to consumers. But the Surface Pro has a really good reputation with pros. I own one and it's a really good product. Now they just need a better marketing. I'm not really knowledgeable about Intel cpus so i don't know if Intel really has something cheap able to run x86-64 desktop apps without being too slow. If it's the case then MS could simply drop the RT crap and focus on full fledged Windows tablets with a revamped Metro UI (windows 10). I don't think the brand is damaged enough in the consumer market for it to not work if the marketing is good. If Intel doesn't have something cheap and good enough to make a good cheap "mini Pro" tablet without any fan and not slow like old netbooks then they could re-market the RT as a 100% media consumption tablet and forget the able to work with it part of the marketing. Like they could have 2 different products with 2 different names. One running "RT" or WP on arm and clerically marketed as a media consumption device. And then the Surface running Windows 10 on Intel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Open Minded Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 I just want to see what MS does with the Surface Pro 4. It would be nice to have some lower cost options using a slower CPU/GPU whilst maintaining the awesome build quality. +Red King 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mockingbird Posted March 30, 2015 Author Share Posted March 30, 2015 I just want to see what MS does with the Surface Pro 4. It would be nice to have some lower cost options using a slower CPU/GPU whilst maintaining the awesome build quality. I am guessing a major redesign of the Surface Pro 3 isn't coming until Skylake drop. As for the Surface N, I expect it to sell much better than the Surface Pro N. The price tag of the Surface Pro N is too high for a lot of casual users. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DConnell Member Posted March 30, 2015 Member Share Posted March 30, 2015 Yes and no. There's a market for "cheap" media consumption tablets running arm. The problem was not really releasing arm tablets but pretending windows 8 arm tablets (RT) were better for working than any other arm tablets. They forgot not only office is used to work. RT store is really too much lacking to pretend a RT tablet is better for working than an iPad. My sister's daughter bought one thinking it would be good to work. She replaced it after 2-3 months. How are they not good for working? Not software development or video/image editing certainly, but I've done remote support and worked from home on my RT. I've used Word on the RT in my capacity as 1/2 of a team of aspiring writers. At a wresting meet - much easier to try to use in those cramped quarters than a regular laptop, and I didn't have to worry about the battery while writing. Unlike a laptop, the RT with type cover actually fits on my lap. That said, I couldn't have used the RT as my only machine. I have a tower system for the heavy stuff - the RT was for recreation and light duty. It isn't suited for truly heavy-duty functions, but the RT is an excellent lightweight productivity machine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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