Can some one please explain the difference to me, as i am a little confused.
i remmeber back with the 939 was released with 64bit architecture, correct?
Then didn't hear much of it, other than XP 64.
now i recently bought a laptop with vista basic, Toshiba satelite L30 Core Duo 1.73
Which platform is better and why and can my lappy take it?
Just a bit of explanation would be good
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| Post #1 Jul 6 2007, 10:48 | |
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| Post #2 Jul 6 2007, 11:05 | |
Neowinian Group: Registered Posts: 1,157 Joined: 2-December 01 Member No.: 5,131 |
XP is better.
Vista 32 if you want a somewhat usable OS.. Vista 64 if you only want to be able to use notepad, and possibly MSpaint. Theres little driver support for vista to begin with, and no one is writing decent 64-bit compatible drivers... |
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| Post #3 Jul 6 2007, 11:26 | |
Resident Elite Group: Registered Posts: 1,768 Joined: 2-September 03 From: Sydney, Australia Member No.: 34,563 |
I tried Vista 64-bit on my laptop, you can do a lot more than simply use notepad.
Vista 64 runs most 32-bit applications. It seamlessly ran all my regular 32-bit applications, although playing games is a hit and miss affair, Battlefield 2142 didn't run, and Enemy Territory worked only without punk buster enabled. Driver support was seriously lacking, I was able to get drivers for my sound and graphics card and printer but my web cam and a few other things had no drivers. That was 6 months ago, there are probably more drivers available now. Also, there isn't really must performance gain to be had by running the 64 bit version, from a performance point of view 32 bit is pretty much the same. Unless you're wanting to run more than 4GB or ram in your PC then I'd stick with the 32-bit version for now and perhaps consider 64-bit when the next version of Windows is released. |
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| Post #4 Jul 6 2007, 12:20 | |
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Neowinian³ Group: Registered Posts: 332 Joined: 30-September 04 Member No.: 73,596 |
On my modern hardware, I haven't had any driver or software compatibility issues. I run Office, Visual Studio, Adobe CS3, Source games, Red Orchestra, BF2, 2142 demo and loads of other stuff without any compatibility problems at all. Where there are issues, a simple Google search or trying the compatibility mode will fix it in seconds.
You can check and make sure all your software will work before you buy, but I would recommend 64-bit to get the most out of your processor and RAM. |
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| Post #5 Jul 6 2007, 12:43 | |
Neowinian³ Group: Registered Posts: 485 Joined: 29-July 05 From: Home Member No.: 120,835 |
I'll wait for the time of 64 bit.
I'll use Vista just for 64 bit programs, 64 bit period. Now 32bit XP is better for me. Sorry for my bad esl nXqd |
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| Post #6 Jul 6 2007, 14:28 | |
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Neowinian Senior Group: Registered Posts: 3,377 Joined: 18-March 04 From: United Kingdom Member No.: 50,479 |
I have absolutely no issues running Vista x64 on my machine. Hardware in signature.
Latest games such as Supreme Commander, Shadowrun run superbly. The majority of older games do work fine also. No performance issues either. Sure, there are a few things that aren't nice to use, or don't work at all on x64, but they're few and far between. I use Vista x64 as my daily OS and am more than happy. |
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| Post #7 Jul 6 2007, 14:44 | |
Resident Fanatic Group: Registered Posts: 949 Joined: 27-November 05 From: Bangalore, India Member No.: 143,079 |
If you are using more than 4 gigs ram, then go for Vista x64
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| Post #8 Jul 6 2007, 16:07 | |
Neowinian ![]() Group: +Subscriber² Posts: 4,143 Joined: 1-August 02 From: Philadelphia, PA Member No.: 16,159 |
XP is better. Vista 32 if you want a somewhat usable OS.. Vista 64 if you only want to be able to use notepad, and possibly MSpaint. Theres little driver support for vista to begin with, and no one is writing decent 64-bit compatible drivers... WOW, that post is SO full of utter crap its amazing. I run Vista x64 on 3 machines and have ZERO usage problems. HAve you ever used the software because you act like you are just going off of what other idiots have read then retold you. Hell I'm in Vista x64 as I am typing this. I found all teh x64 drivers for my machines in under 10min of looking for ANY OF THEM. LEARN WTF YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT BEFORE YOU POST! |
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| Post #9 Jul 6 2007, 19:49 | |
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Neowinian Senior Group: Registered Posts: 2,164 Joined: 3-October 04 Member No.: 74,044 |
Vista x64 has no issues with me and vice versa.
Ruciz, have you actually tried x64? |
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| Post #10 Jul 6 2007, 20:17 | |
Resident Fanatic Group: Registered Posts: 652 Joined: 21-April 04 From: Dallas, Texas Member No.: 53,368 |
I only had one issue with Vista 64 and that was DVDFab isn't x64 compatible (yet). Actually hte main DVDFab application is but it's VSO system driver isn't so I had to go back to the 32 bit for now.
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| Post #11 Jul 6 2007, 22:37 | |
Aperture Science Worker 005535 Group: Registered Posts: 7,191 Joined: 17-February 06 From: Staffordshire, UK Browser: Firefox 2 Member No.: 156,677 |
Hey guys, i have just finished installing 64bit vista and i have to say its very nice and a bit faster... however now my PC gets a lower score ?
Ram used to have a score of 4.3 but now in 64bit it has 3.1? how odd ? also does anyone know if there is a 64 bit version of firefox 2.0 ? |
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| Post #12 Jul 7 2007, 01:44 | |
Resident Elite Group: Registered Posts: 1,768 Joined: 2-September 03 From: Sydney, Australia Member No.: 34,563 |
Can anybody here run Enemy Territory on x64 yet?
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| Post #13 Jul 7 2007, 02:46 | |
Neowinian Senior Group: Registered Posts: 2,216 Joined: 4-May 04 From: St. Louis, MO Member No.: 54,666 |
No to firefox question
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| Post #14 Jul 7 2007, 03:11 | |
ɹosıʌɹǝdns uıʍoǝu ![]() Group: Supervisor Posts: 38,330 Joined: 30-December 02 From: ɐpɐuɐɔ 'oʇuoɹoʇ Member No.: 21,031 |
also does anyone know if there is a 64 bit version of firefox 2.0 ? You can get firefox-3.0a6pre.en-US.win64 (2007-06-12): http://www.mozilla-x86-64.com/download.html [Threads Merged] I had no troubles running applications with Vista-64. Perhaps you might run into issues with older games or something but it did not affect me. |
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| Post #15 Jul 7 2007, 03:14 | |
Yeah I'm argumentative... but only when you won't listen Group: Registered Posts: 1,380 Joined: 14-December 06 From: California, U.S.A. Member No.: 190,766 |
XP is better. Well, I see one of the Elmer "FUD" crowd has replied. People 'IN THE KNOW' will ignore that.Vista 32 if you want a somewhat usable OS.. Vista 64 if you only want to be able to use notepad, and possibly MSpaint. Theres little driver support for vista to begin with, and no one is writing decent 64-bit compatible drivers... 64 bit Windows gives you some advantages over 32bit. Most Windows virii are of the 32 bit variety and you should 'theoretically' have a bit more immunity from because of the nature of the code: the virus expects 32 bit addressing and even if it does manage to corrupt 64 bit files, the memory pointers and such will be off and the virus will crash... and Vista x64's 32 bit subsystem (which the virus will run under) will crash as well... maybe... instead of the whole system. Intel and AMD processors usually run 32 bit code in x64 mode nearly as well as a 32 bit processor running it. That means that 32 bit programs run almost as well on 64 bit processors as they do on 32 bit processors. A lot of development was put in by AMD to make sure it worked that way, and Intel adopted a similar strategy. As for drivers- I've installed 64 bit Vista on my primary home computer, after running 32 bit Vista since beta 1... and it ran XP Pro SP2 before that (for about a year). SO that gives you the idea that my hardware is about 2 years old. And 64bit Vista had drivers for my entire system. Gigabyte (my mobo maker) doesn't list anything for Vista 32 OR 64 bit... but Microsoft nailed it down and installed drivers. It works like a charm- every piece of software I have to run- mostly office-type stuff works fine. Even the specialty software I have to use (from Anritsu- cellular test equipment) runs fine. I don't game on it much- I've got Tron 2.0 and some older games like Obsidian and others. But they work fine. Maybe newer games that were in development while Vista was being worked on won't work... YET... but I have no complaints. |
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