I'm really not sure which forum to post in regard this oft lamented, probably dead topic. But it's late, I'm tired, but I'm not going to bed any time soon.
I'm one of those people who are saying that Vista today is just like XP was 6 years ago. People are whining and moaning and saying that Vista is the worst thing since minced bread. They say XP is the ideal and does almost everything perfectly.
Common complaints are; drivers, interface, system requirements, and additional features. Also included is the much maligned, inevitable service pack that is spoken of even before anyone tries the software.
Problem is, and I guess 6 years is a really long time, XP was received in just the same way. The same response, the same questions, the same demands. Few people can get it through their heads that Vista will, like XP did over time, become the OS of choice and we will not know the difference or care. As ubiquitous as XP is today, in 2 years Vista will be (or less, given that Vista is being adopted more quickly than XP was at the same time). As loved and touted as XP is today, Vista will be in 4 years.
As proof, and since it's late I only did a quick search, I offer you these two reviews.
One for XP 6 months in the wild, and one for Vista. You'll find some interesting parallels. They are from Cnet, and I hope to find several more to prove my point.
XP
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| Vista today = XP 6 years ago. Stop complaining!, Flogging a dead horse with a ferret. | |
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| Post #1 Nov 11 2007, 08:28 | |
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| Post #2 Nov 11 2007, 09:04 | |
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Neowinian UNSTOPPABLE Group: Registered Posts: 6,553 Joined: 8-June 03 From: Queensland, Australia Member No.: 30,282 |
We did experience the same when XP was released. People would say XP was eXPensive, eXPansive (in terms of system resources). But where are we today? XP is not expensive and it's system requirements is nothing by today's standards. Even a P3 can run XP (at least I did with my old (500mhz celeron).
This recycles again when Vista was released and still is happening. I guess most people takes things very slowing when adapting to new things. About a year ahead, we should see a drop in complaints about Vista since new computers will have the power and resources needed to run Vista anyway. |
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| Post #3 Nov 11 2007, 09:06 | |
Neowinian³ Group: Registered Posts: 279 Joined: 10-September 07 From: Los Angeles, CA (USA) Member No.: 236,630 |
I know this is true but some people aren't ready to switch to vista. For me, the only thing holding me back, is that I can't afford to build a new machine.
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| Post #4 Nov 11 2007, 09:19 | |
Virtorio Group: Registered Posts: 4,555 Joined: 28-April 03 From: Hamilton, New Zealand Member No.: 27,111 |
I've been saying much the same. XP was a s**t of a thing when it came out.
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| Post #5 Nov 11 2007, 09:21 | |
Neowinian Senior Group: Registered Posts: 2,007 Joined: 16-July 05 From: Maryland Member No.: 118,616 |
MAN that horse sure is being flogged, atleast you warned us..
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| Post #6 Nov 11 2007, 09:35 | |
Doofus Group: Registered Posts: 6,996 Joined: 26-June 05 From: Auckland, New Zealand Member No.: 116,051 |
Well XP wasn't this bad 6 years ago so isn't really much point to this...
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| Post #7 Nov 11 2007, 09:44 | |
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I want to run Vista. I have one of the fastest rigs money can buy and XP doesn't take advantage of all the cores, ram and graphics.
Vista does. And thus I want to run Vista. But its so darn buggy! It's been a year since Vista made Gold Master, Microsoft has so much money and employees.. I wish they would have fixed many of the problems 6 months ago. I know you can't rush development but maybe if they broke the development down in to blocks and brought more people in to work on each of those blocks we could get some of the major bugs fixed. At the moment I'm suffering with ICS, UI lockups, random kernel panics and general application instability (Especially with IE7). I'm not writing Vista off by any means. I remember when XP was first released and it had a lot of problems that everyone complained about, and Microsoft slowly fixed those. But at the same time the longer we go without fixes or SP1 the more I lose patience waiting and eye a already functional Dual-Quad 8GB RAM MacPro with Leopard + XBOX360 to replace my fast depreciating PC with a difficult to suffer operating system.. In closing, Come on Microsoft make me proud to be a PC owner. |
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| Post #8 Nov 11 2007, 09:48 | |
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Neowinian Senior Group: Registered Posts: 3,769 Joined: 19-November 01 From: melb.vic.au Member No.: 3,830 |
vista runs better for me than xp did when i first installed the rtm release.
i love it when ever i see the people who arnt even running vista putting any problem a user might be having down to "its vista's fault" when it isn't. vista runs stable, fast, and i have not had any major issue other than a hardware issue which was my own fault. I have no driver complaints, i love the interface & my system easily exceeds all vista's requirements. the same people complaining about vista now, will be the same one's praising it later down the road. |
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| Post #9 Nov 11 2007, 09:52 | |
Neowinian UNSTOPPABLE ![]() Group: +Subscriber Posts: 7,598 Joined: 28-October 04 From: England Member No.: 78,338 |
I agree - it'll get as good as XP's become over the years, and will replace it as the main OS. I really want to be on Vista, especially as I have a new PC, but I'm holding back until SP1 is released. Then I'll buy a copy of Ultimate Edition.
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| Post #10 Nov 11 2007, 10:03 | |
FF Fanatic Group: Registered Posts: 3,907 Joined: 19-July 02 From: Wolverhampton, UK Member No.: 15,331 |
I dont see the point myself, xp has a lot of life left it in it and its pretty much a perfect os for me, its very stable, fast and cheap (well cheaper than vista)
Vista doesnt offer me anything more than XP does, infact its more bloated, requires more (even on some dual cores its sluggish) once SP1s out though i'll try it on my setup As for 6 years ago there were people slagging off xp but not as much as they are with vista now, and driver support when vista was released was poor (especially with printers) |
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| Post #11 Nov 11 2007, 10:08 | |
Formerly BlakByte Group: Banned Posts: 567 Joined: 1-May 07 From: Denmark Member No.: 221,583 |
When XP got out, i didn't even know what Windows was.. Win2k ftw
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| Post #12 Nov 11 2007, 11:26 | |
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Wow, this thread is SO open to trolling...
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| Post #13 Nov 11 2007, 11:52 | |
Neowinian³ Group: Registered Posts: 485 Joined: 29-July 05 From: Home Member No.: 120,835 |
I agree, Vista is not that bad. People just like XP, they may be blinded. Let's wait, but Vista is not in the same situation like XP before. We have uBuntu, OSX . Big problem
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| Post #14 Nov 11 2007, 11:53 | |
Neowinian Group: Registered Posts: 905 Joined: 19-February 02 Member No.: 9,854 |
Very true! ... I would go further and say that Vista works good for me straight out the box!
I've not done any tweaking as such ( logging in as *real* admin is all) ... unlike XP when it first came out ... Remember the BSOD ... ? |
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| Post #15 Nov 11 2007, 12:07 | |
Microsoft Enthusiast Group: Registered Posts: 770 Joined: 7-July 06 From: Victoria, Australia Member No.: 172,663 |
I want to run Vista. But its so darn buggy! Hahaha. You don't even know if it's buggy because, as you said, you're running XP! Having used Vista since Beta 1, I believe I'm much more qualified to judge Vusta and I say that Vista is bug free and does EVERYTHING I want - I reguarly use Adobe CS3, 3DS Max 9, Office, Nero, Visual Studio, Expression Suite, Nokia PC Suite, heaps of games (including Bioshock, Company of Heroes and Crysis (demo) in DirectX 10!), and etc WITH NO PROBLEMS EVER! |
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