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| Post #31 May 29 2009, 15:12 | |
NUMERO MYSTERIOSO   Group: Moderator Posts: 14,089 Joined: 28-September 02 From: Brisbane, Australia Likes: Cookies Member No.: 17,647 
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Yeah, but it's hacky and breaks if you extend into web page contents (the proper method lets the entire window be glass)
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| Post #32 May 29 2009, 15:13 | |
Maybe the helicopter is made of chocolate  Group: Registered Posts: 5,932 Joined: 7-March 06 From: Vermont Member No.: 159,052
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Why would you need the entire window to be glass lol.
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| Post #33 May 29 2009, 15:16 | |
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NUMERO MYSTERIOSO Group: Moderator Posts: 14,089 Joined: 28-September 02 From: Brisbane, Australia Likes: Cookies Member No.: 17,647
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In case you want to show proper transparency with web pages. Extension might want to show a window on glass with HTML content, they can't mix it at the moment (XUL renders on Glass fine, HTML content doesn't)
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| Post #34 May 29 2009, 15:20 | |
Neowin's Winnaer!!!1!!1  Group: +Subscriber Posts: 5,222 Joined: 5-February 02 From: ELECTRONICA Member No.: 9,365
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I don't see a need for everything to be glass ... I don't see a need for the current UI to be changed. Using 3.5b4 and it looks fine.
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| Post #35 May 29 2009, 15:21 | |
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Neowinian³  Group: Registered Posts: 366 Joined: 23-August 05 From: United States of America Member No.: 125,102
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Somehow I don't see Mozilla adapting Microsoft API's for the taskbar tabs, simply for the fact that Firefox is intended to be a Universal browser; available on muliple platforms. Linux and Mac OS X wouldn't be able to use such tab API's, and no sense in implamenting them for the sake of only one platform.
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| Post #36 May 29 2009, 15:23 | |
Neowinian ULTRAKILL Group: Registered Posts: 13,478 Joined: 30-September 01 From: Ottawa, On Member No.: 1,419
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Quote - (keuka @ May 29 2009, 11:21)  Somehow I don't see Mozilla adapting Microsoft API's for the taskbar tabs, simply for the fact that Firefox is intended to be a Universal browser; available on muliple platforms. Linux and Mac OS X wouldn't be able to use such tab API's, and no sense in implamenting them for the sake of only one platform. there's plenty of things they do only on certain platforms, I don't see why they couldn't do that for Win7 |
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| Post #37 May 29 2009, 15:25 | |
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NUMERO MYSTERIOSO Group: Moderator Posts: 14,089 Joined: 28-September 02 From: Brisbane, Australia Likes: Cookies Member No.: 17,647
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When you enable Glass in a window with HTML content, you gets bugs like this and this.
And Mozilla have no problem implementing platform specific features when it provides better integration into the base OS (on Windows, it does it's own alerts, on OS X it does them through growl, on Linux it does them through libnotify). And there's already a "progress in taskbar" patch that is nearly finished. |
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| Post #38 May 29 2009, 15:31 | |
Neowinian Senior  Group: Registered Posts: 2,012 Joined: 23-October 01 From: Earth Member No.: 2,016
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With 3.5 and glasser 2.0 you get complete glass even on the tabs.
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| Post #39 May 29 2009, 15:40 | |
Arch Linux Newbie  Group: Registered Posts: 1,140 Joined: 29-October 08 Member No.: 265,994
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Hey hardgiant, how do you get that Go button on the toolbar?
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| Post #40 May 29 2009, 16:40 | |
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Neowinian Senior Group: Registered Posts: 2,012 Joined: 23-October 01 From: Earth Member No.: 2,016
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Quote - (i_was_here @ May 29 2009, 10:40) Hey hardgiant, how do you get that Go button on the toolbar? Stylish + Fx3 - Oldstyle Go Button http://userstyles.org/styles/6584 |
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| Post #41 May 29 2009, 16:45 | |
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Maybe the helicopter is made of chocolate Group: Registered Posts: 5,932 Joined: 7-March 06 From: Vermont Member No.: 159,052
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Quote - (keuka @ May 29 2009, 10:21) Somehow I don't see Mozilla adapting Microsoft API's for the taskbar tabs, simply for the fact that Firefox is intended to be a Universal browser; available on muliple platforms. Linux and Mac OS X wouldn't be able to use such tab API's, and no sense in implamenting them for the sake of only one platform. No offense but thats such an ignorant post, why not take available of an api on one platform to make the browser better? AFAIK firefox will be integrating with things on OSX that windows doesn't have either in the future. Taking advantage of the api probably wouldn't be too difficult and wouldn't make firefox any les of a "Universal Browser" Your post makes NO sense at all. |
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| Post #42 May 29 2009, 17:02 | |
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Neowinian³ Group: Registered Posts: 366 Joined: 23-August 05 From: United States of America Member No.: 125,102
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Quote - (ViperAFK @ May 29 2009, 11:45) No offense but thats such an ignorant post, why not take available of an api on one platform to make the browser better? AFAIK firefox will be integrating with things on OSX that windows doesn't have either in the future. Taking advantage of the api probably wouldn't be too difficult and wouldn't make firefox any les of a "Universal Browser" Your post makes NO sense at all. All I'm saying is I would imagine it to be inefficent cost wise an resource wise (number of developers and programming power) to cater to each and every platform's specifics for a single program, not to mention a possible invitation to bugs or such a huge base code that it becomes bloatware. |
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| Post #43 May 29 2009, 17:19 | |
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Maybe the helicopter is made of chocolate Group: Registered Posts: 5,932 Joined: 7-March 06 From: Vermont Member No.: 159,052
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Quote - (keuka @ May 29 2009, 12:02) All I'm saying is I would imagine it to be inefficent cost wise an resource wise (number of developers and programming power) to cater to each and every platform's specifics for a single program, not to mention a possible invitation to bugs or such a huge base code that it becomes bloatware. It's not exactly a massive or very difficult feature to implement you are making it WAY bigger than it really is and blowing things completely out of proportion, and would hardly make it "bloatware" talk about making a mountain out of molehill. |
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| Post #44 May 29 2009, 18:11 | |
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Neowinian³ Group: Registered Posts: 366 Joined: 23-August 05 From: United States of America Member No.: 125,102
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Quote - (ViperAFK @ May 29 2009, 12:19) It's not exactly a massive or very difficult feature to implement you are making it WAY bigger than it really is and blowing things completely out of proportion, and would hardly make it "bloatware" talk about making a mountain out of molehill. A molehill becomes a mountain when you keep adding things; some Windows 7 Aereo, a taskbar tab API here, an OS X Cocoa with a side of Aqua there, a little Linux Jetpack a dash of Microformat APIs, etc. (Let's not even get into layers for Extentions, Java, MAPI, CCS, SSL, etc. ;Standard for Popular Web Browsers) It's apparent that Firefox isn't as efficent as IT COULD BE Quote - Under the umbrella of Mozilla, Gecko is actually a much bigger project in technical terms than Firefox is. For example, there is much more Gecko code than there is code specific to Firefox, which is an application we built on top of Gecko. Source: http://boomswaggerboom.wordpress.com/2008/...under-the-hood/ I believe this is why Chrome is beating Firefox in terems of raw performance speed, because it doesn't implament all this crap. |
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| Post #45 May 30 2009, 00:49 | |
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Maybe the helicopter is made of chocolate Group: Registered Posts: 5,932 Joined: 7-March 06 From: Vermont Member No.: 159,052
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chrome is not noticeably faster than fx at all on my system, and thats not why its faster. It's because chrome is built on a faster rendering engine (webkit) and their js engine (v8) is faster as well but not by a whole lot. Firefox 3.5 beta has many speed improvements and isn't much slower than chrome at all.
And chrome is pretty much featureless compared to fx imo, it's lacking a lot of basic features like smooth scrolling and proper bookmark management an extensions arent even fully implemented yet. Your posts seem to imply that making firefox better on each platform makes it "slow" which is not true. Also firefox is already completely cross platform on both OSX and linux while chrome is still in VERY early stages being ported to those. Your arguments make little to no sense. |
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