Alan Zeino
Sep 16 2003, 06:52
This is for the mods on 2true.org who asked me to make a vs to use on their computers at their work and for the 2true.org forum visitors
Download @ deviantartIll be lessening my work load from now on im really tired of being a theme ripper

4 of my 14 made themes have been deemed to be rips and im really tired of it...
Im sorry to those who have had to endure my crapy rips of their work usually its a misunderstanding or ive not asked permission but im changing all that.
As for my next rpoject im working on a theme with Roland from Roland Underground who makes great msn skins!
from the ss, this theme looks pretty good. keep up the good work
whistl3r
Sep 17 2003, 16:38
the smothness of the titlebar shadows is very well done...u did a very good job on this mate...
Figured I'd bring this to your attention.
Bizkit
Sep 17 2003, 16:59
Looks nice. I think that your themes are getting better, so good job.
bangbang023
Sep 17 2003, 17:14
It doesn't match my desktop but this theme is very well done man. See what happens when you slow down a bit and focus your energies?
more than 4/14 have been rips.... ;p
either way... this looks good,the images are still not your own, but at least you have permission. Keep workin at it, maybe throw some of your own ideas down in photoshop sometime and try and develop a theme 100% from your noggin.
PotatoJudge
Sep 17 2003, 18:38
This is a big improvement, but the gigantic hole at the top of the screen when the window is maximized needs to go. This hole makes it much harder to click on min,max,close buttons.
vellox
Sep 17 2003, 19:51
Well, you're definately improving alan, I'll give you that. Not my style, but I can recognize it's technical merit. Good job.
StarFactor
Sep 17 2003, 19:58
Damn Alan! This is nice, nice stuff. It's awesome to see that you're working on original themes, and it's clear this one has quite a bit of effort put into it. That definitely shows. Awesome work, Alan.
Labtec
Sep 17 2003, 20:16
looks good
Spykes424
Sep 17 2003, 20:23
Boycotted...

!
Schmoove
Sep 17 2003, 20:44
Quote - (Spykes424 @ Sep 17 2003, 21:23)
Boycotted...

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? Why, this isn't that bad. Can't really say that he ripped stuff, it is pretty original. Sure it resembles some themes in some elements, but nothing major.
Nice work Alan, you are improving
well... it is ripped straight from the 2true website.... but he said he has permission, so its Ok, i wouldnt call it original though
Spykes424
Sep 17 2003, 20:48
Because of what he did to redrope and other neowinians in the deskmod vs skin. he released vesions without the original makers consent and lots of other crap, he has been banned on manowhat and should have been here - I will never use any of his work (not that I ever touched that crap).
nomis_nehc
Sep 17 2003, 20:58
i like the style, but i definitely hate the compact start menu. i really don't see why people would like it... since there is no exact standard and it just messes up the icon 80% of the time.
configure
Sep 17 2003, 21:18
Quote - (Spykes424 @ Sep 18 2003, 03:48)
Because of what he did to redrope and other neowinians in the deskmod vs skin. he released vesions without the original makers consent and lots of other crap, he has been banned on manowhat and should have been here - I will never use any of his work (not that I ever touched that crap).
Easy there tiger...
GreenLemon
Sep 17 2003, 21:21
I think the style has a lot of potential. If you'd clean up the start menu a little, this theme would go far. Good job. Ignore what other people say about your work. So, you've borrowed some images from people. You've got permission, I say go for it. Keep up the good work.
[bear]
Sep 17 2003, 22:43
Quote - (Spykes424 @ Sep 17 2003, 15:23)
Boycotted...

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Im with you.. i dont see how he could have ripped so many times and neowin never did anything about it.. makes me mad.
Spykes424
Sep 17 2003, 22:53
Endoscient
Sep 17 2003, 22:57
all themes are nice and all, but make some with orignal grapchics, all hae urs have been rips, mods, and ased off websteis / something else
mikenguyen
Sep 17 2003, 23:01
Quote - (Endoscient @ Sep 17 2003, 22:57)
all themes are nice and all, but make some with orignal grapchics, all hae urs have been rips, mods, and ased off websteis / something else
werd.
Quote - (Endoscient @ Sep 17 2003, 18:57)
all themes are nice and all, but make some with orignal grapchics, all hae urs have been rips, mods, and ased off websteis / something else
wtf
Endoscient
Sep 17 2003, 23:52
sorry for bad spellign houdl be:
all themes are nice and all, but make some with original grapchics. All of yours have been rips, mods, and based off websites. You would be a much better themer if you didn't just do ports.
Relativity_17
Sep 17 2003, 23:55
Quote -
all themes are nice and all, but make some with orignal grapchics, all hae urs have been rips, mods, and ased off websteis / something else

wtf indeed...
Ahh, the rules of theming. alanzenio, if you're good, you go down as one of the Greats; KoL, Bant, b0se, Binary, Max Rudberg, Iceman, etc. Yeah, I'm not listing them all, but they're well known. If you're new at it, and aren't so good, then it may take a while to get noticed. And if you're a ripper, you get a bad rep.
It seems like you've got a lot of time on your hands, one thing which every good themer wants. So hopefully you can pump out some good original works, and dump the bad rep you've got right now.
Bubbabyte
Sep 18 2003, 01:06
It is an improvement from previous rips...
you do need some major work alan... the graphics although looking nice...aren't yours and involved no talent nor thought whatsoever. The buttons and tabs look like various kol themes... the caption buttons need major improvement.. they are very uneven.
Okay i'm willing to let all the obvious things slide this time because it looks as if you are slowly moving away from ripping people off....slowly...but..you still are missing the obvious problem that you have, that i have told you again and again. Throw a screenshot up, ask for suggestions, make corrections, bug fix, improvise a little.... dont say here's a beta that is done half-assed, enjoy. Do not release betas until you are sure that you've taken every step in insuring that for the most part the bugs are gone. There are tons of problems with this vs that should have been fixed but weren't because you are to premature with your visualizations...lol
prozak
Sep 18 2003, 01:57
your best one so far.
Quote - (Spykes424 @ Sep 17 2003, 15:48)
Because of what he did to redrope and other neowinians in the deskmod vs skin. he released vesions without the original makers consent and lots of other crap, he has been banned on manowhat and should have been here - I will never use any of his work (not that I ever touched that crap).
ok take easy it there buddy.
he is learning everyone makes mistakes.
and at least he is trying. dont need to get so serious. on the guy.
Bubbabyte
Sep 18 2003, 04:04
Quote - (lilhaloshaka @ Sep 18 2003, 03:53)
ok take easy it there buddy.
he is learning everyone makes mistakes.
and at least he is trying. dont need to get so serious. on the guy.
no offense dude...but where have you been...
i know everyone makes mistakes but god damn... have you seen the stuff that's been done?
there is every reason to get so serious, especially if you are a theme creator and witness so many rips by ONE person. Like i said in my last post i'm gonna try to let it go for now because it seems he's finally making a move in the proper direction, but to say that at least he's trying, like we should baby him or that he doesn't know any better is just wrong. Every man makes a mistake, dumbass's make 11 or 12 in a row.
It's great that alan is moving on, but dont forget what's been done.
couldnt agree more bubba....
Alan Zeino
Sep 18 2003, 06:08
Heres the deal. Il make the start panel normal as an extra color scheme.
And this was simply made for them but they liked it so much they said i could release it openly.
I have made original themes. The 2 theme i made has a start panel never seen before. But is funny ho people only see what they want to see....
Ill make more adjustments and finalise it because im working with Roland and I cant waste too much time on this...
Spykes424
Sep 18 2003, 10:43
dido bubba and bant.
daoutlawz
Sep 18 2003, 12:45
Quote - (Bubbabyte @ Sep 18 2003, 01:06)
It is an improvement from previous rips...
ehhe yeh, he IS improving his rips aint he?
redrope
Sep 18 2003, 20:51
The widgets are really weirdly placed. And I will never use your themes.
Destian
Sep 18 2003, 20:52
There's not excuse for ripping, but I don't see anything wrong with making a theme from website graphics if given permission. Some people enjoy making visual styles but just aren't very good at creating graphics (ever seen my greyBase VS?

).
giantsnyy2002
Sep 18 2003, 20:57
Quote - (Destian @ Sep 18 2003, 16:52)
There's not excuse for ripping, but I don't see anything wrong with making a theme from website graphics if given permission. Some people enjoy making visual styles but just aren't very good at creating graphics (ever seen my greyBase VS?

).
thats not the point of it tho... its not just website graphics he has used.
Its a combination of website graphics and graphics STOLEN from other visual styles.
preantek
Sep 19 2003, 00:18
Maybe you should go back to ripping people off,because this theme has so many flaws, its not even worthy of being called a beta.
daoutlawz
Sep 19 2003, 02:04
man, as soon as i saw it, i thought it was KOL's studio 28 VS
i mean, why should i use a rip when i can use the real thing which looks so much better...IMO
Quote - (preantek @ Sep 18 2003, 20:18)
Maybe you should go back to ripping people off,because this theme has so many flaws, its not even worthy of being called a beta.
i didnt test the style myself yet, but can you point me out to all the flaws that you see?
The Compact Start menu seemed to have some issues, I posted a pic in like the 3rd or 4th post of the thread.
Alan Zeino
Sep 19 2003, 04:46
Its absolutely amazing.
OBVIOUSLY THERES GOING TO BE RESEMBLANCES BECAUSE THERE ARE SO MANY THEMES OUT THERE. But for ffrggin sake! Its not a rip! I never see any of you others posting in KoLs threads saying his themes have images that look like others, neither in dazzlas and so on.... Just stop it for once if your a skeptic visit 2true.org and view the site mine is exactly the same. And as for redrope I know how you feel but dont post in any of my threads from now on if youve got that opinion mate.
XCITIN
Sep 19 2003, 23:36
Well im the owner if this theme now, its me alan, but neowin put a warning which makes them view every post i make and choose wether to post it or not but they never veiw them and only do it once wen i PM them. So if[saint dark] takes it off I might go back to using the old account but until then this is a new alan.
Alan Zeino.
FatCat
Sep 19 2003, 23:47
Quote - (XCITIN @ Sep 19 2003, 17:36)
Well im the owner if this theme now, its me alan, but neowin put a warning which makes them view every post i make and choose wether to post it or not but they never veiw them and only do it once wen i PM them. So if[saint dark] takes it off I might go back to using the old account but until then this is a new alan.
Alan Zeino.
Hmmm alan I wonder what is going to happen to your new account.
bangbang023
Sep 20 2003, 00:00
I almost feel bad for this kid.
Bizkit
Sep 20 2003, 00:15
I don't think making a new account will make the mods happy, but I could be wrong, me not being a mod and all.
Anyways, good luck...
Quote - (bangbang023 @ Sep 19 2003, 20:00)
I almost feel bad for this kid.
yea...but he kinda let this happen on his own
XCITIN
Sep 20 2003, 02:04
Yeah well if they dont want to put the warning level down or check my posts i need to post ive got another theme coming up
XCITIN
Sep 20 2003, 02:05
As for the theme, im making a noraml size start panel and the bugs and some new titlebars!
Bizkit
Sep 20 2003, 02:10
I think that it looks nice. I think that your themes are getting alot better as you make more, so keep up the work.
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