What do you think?

Absolutely. It is wrong that a player of his status never go to HOF. The only people being robbed are the fans of the future. They need to know his story. That's my opinion.

I agree. It was his stats that were HOF numbers, not the bets he made. If Ray Lewis can get away with crap and become player of the year, then Rose should be able to get in.

what briangw said...rose deserves to be in the hof as much as the other greats

PETE ROSE!!! Nobody is gonna be like him.. or ever beat his record...! STAY with HOF.

Pete Rose should be let in, yea he bet on baseball, but his numbers are what matter.

everyone knows he bet already but he should still be let in for his on the field accomplishments

I would like to hear a response from the people that said no.

Hell Yes he should go in

Charlie Hustle at the end of his career was beatin it down to first better than guys half his age.

Absolutely not. He is already in the hall for his achievements (World Series and All Star Appearances, All-Time Hit Record). Giamatti did the right thing when he banned him. That set a much better example to the future generations about MLB and its stance on gambling.

what he did on the field should be the only thing he is judged for. he totally deserves it. and i think selig will allow it.

Like everyone else said, its what he did on the field that matters. As far as him managing again, i dunno im a bit iffy on that.

yes. he is the all times hit king, that alone should get him in. but the 44-game hitting streak along with all his other accomplishments make it a travesty that he isnt in right now. it would be a crying shame if he didnt get in before he died

His on-the-field accomplishments are already recorded in the Hall of Fame. When you vote a player into the Hall of Fame it is to immortalize the person. I am not going to argue that all 250 inductees are saints, but what kind of example does it set to allow someone who broke the rules to be put on such a pedestal.

Pete Rose was a hell of a ball player, but the circumstances that led to his expulsion from baseball should be enough to keep him from being inducted.

No offense, but whoever voted "betting aside, his stats don't compare to other HOFers" is crazy, in my opinion LOL

Anyways, absolutely. Pete deserves to be in. I find it funny that Bug Selig will invite him for a little bit only to make appearances and make the crowds happy (since he's banned from even going inside Baseball Stadiums), yet when Pete would like to do something on his own he's not allowed to. Stop using him as an icon if he's banned. The league banned him, so either unban him or leave him be.

I think he deserves to be in, though. I mean, it's not like he was taking steroids when he was playing the game. What he did was wrong, yes, but was it enough to warrant being kicked out of baseball? I don't think so.

Nope. Not at all. His stats are incredible, best in baseball and if it was just on baseball...he should without any doubt go in.

And let me say that I think the rule is quite stupid and setup wrong. BUT, Rose knew the rule....didnt care....and still did it. So....nope

For the hits, he's above everyone. He also played around 400 years.

IMO...no flaming, but, outside of his hits, his stats are below the hall average.

Hell yes... great guy.. everyone has problems

Least he never bet against his team lol.

Sweet I love baseball. Shame I'm from the UK. All I can do is watch the repeats and miss half of the innings due to it being on late night. Anyways, NULL vote from me due to lack of knowledge

encryption, here is the Dowd Report which outlines the facts of the case against Pete Rose. In a nutshell, he was expelled from baseball for placing bets on baseball games while he was a player and a manager.

Pete Rose: The Baseball Almanac

Hell no, he shouldn't be able to gain entrance into the HOF. Pete Rose knowingly bet on baseball and thus should suffer the consequences. Shoeless Joe Jackson, (who was illiterate) unknowingly took part in the "Black Sox scandal". (His stats for the 1919 World Series will back this up). He DESERVES to be allowed into the HOF. His .356 batting average is still the 3rd-highest of all-time.

Thank's ShawnB, and from what I've read I believe he shouldn't be allowed. If his batting average is 3rd highest, then he should've thought of what he might loose if he does do, what he did.

He should face the consequences.

No, never. He would bet against his own team! No lover of baseball would do that, he derserves what he got.

His on field actions speak for themselves, but what he did off the field is not to be tolerated. If you think what he did was ok because he was a great player than any player should be allowed to do the same. And that will be the downfall of baseball.

Did he actually bet against his own team? I don't see why it's such a big deal unless he bet against his own team. So the manager of the Reds puts $5K on the Royals beating the Pirates. So what?!?! If he bet on the Reds to win, so what. He should already be doing everything possible to win anyways.

#2 for me, folks. I'm sure it's the type of thing where "everybody does it" but just like Nixon was impeached for doing something "everybody does" so should P.R. not be in the hall of fame.

Didn't Rose say he only bet on baseball as a manager and not a player, or am I off?

i think he just said he never bet for/against his team

Rose belongs back in baseball and he belongs in the HoF.

He should've admitted to it when everything happened so that we fans wouldn't have had to go through this poo for all of these years. But then we might not have had the chance to boo at Bart Giamatti at the 1989 HoF induction ceremony. That was priceless. Even the Red Sox fans booed.

Really does it matter, guy lied about it for HOW many years... Guy is a Looser

MLB is very clear on gambling in its rules. He knew it and he lied about it because he knew what the result of his actions would be. Now that he has admitted he bet on baseball, it should be clearer that he should remain out.

From the Dowd Report:

There are only two years left for the baseball writers to vote him into the hall of fame. After that he can only be admitted by the veterans and there is no chance of that happening. He is regarded by the veterans as a selfish me-first attention grabbing player. The timing of his book and revelations about betting on baseball was timed to coincide with this years' HOF admissions and it really made this years' entrants into back page news. What it was Paul Molitor and somebody else? I feel sorry for them they've had their happy days overshadowed by Pete Rose, again.

He knew the rules and knew what would happen if he did it....and still went ahead and bet....then lied for 14 years....no thanks, Pete

First of all he bet when he was a manager. Secondly he never bet against his team so wtf is wrong. He had no bearing on whether his team won. If he bet against them then maybe he could have thrown the game by putting in crappy players but he never did. Finally the HOF is suppose to be about what he did on the field. He would not go in as a manager but as a player that has quite a legacy. I say if they want to footnote his plaque saying he bet on his team as a manager fine but don't rob the future fan base of the league by not continuing his legacy.

To put this in perspective. I watched a Canadian sports talk show (OTR, Off the Record) today a they pointed this hypothetical situation out. It is a well known fact that Micheal Jordan enjoys gambling. He's seen in Vegas all the time. If he even bet on his team during his career should he not be in the HOF despite the fact he is the best player ever? It's the same thing as Rose. If you feel that no matter what Jordan should be in then so should Rose.

Oh, Rose "says" he never bet against his team? Same guy who said he wasnt betting for 14 years? Boy his credibility is strong...give me a break.

This story certainly has legs: Pete Rose's ex-bookie says bets were made from clubhouse AND involved the Reds

Discuss.

nm, read the article. my bad.

Yes. Let him in. Who cares if he bet on baseball?? Other players do drugs, etc. No one is perfect. They made an example out of him. It is time to let him in. He admited it. The other things They want him to do are ridiculous. Like, "does he feel bad about what he did", etc, are silly. LET HIM IN.

Interesting interview this morning with Bob Costas on the Today show. Costas doesn't buy the Rose 'admission' saying it's only a ploy to get in the HoF. It makes sense, too. Rose officially has only 2 more years before his chance to get in the hall of fame lies with the Veterans committee, which he says will be much more difficult to get in because the old timers want the hall to remain pure. The writers, may not vote him in the first year (if he's allowed to come back) just as a 'we're taking a stand' sort of thing.

Interestingly enough, Costa sure didn't come across as a Pete Rose supporter. Glad someone is speaking the truth, cause I still don't think Rose is telling all.

Very interesting article by Peter Gammons on all the recent developments.