Anyone know when the new Spider-Man 2 trailer will be out?
Ayepecks
Mar 6 2004, 23:39
No clue.
Razorwing
Mar 7 2004, 01:45
the trailer would be out on Quicktime. Just have patience man.. so when the time comes, there would be the trailer
Anyone have any idea of the plot of SM2
I heard a while back that Venom might be the story for this one??
Hawkeye
Mar 7 2004, 01:59
Quote - (Osiris @ Mar 6 2004, 20:56)
Anyone have any idea of the plot of SM2
I heard a while back that Venom might be the story for this one??
I believe that has been pushed back possibly to Spider-Man 3. Spider-Man 2 will mostly surround Spidey vs. Dr. Octopus, with likely a subplut involving Harry Osbourne's anger at Spider-Man over the death of his father.
almighty skeptic
Mar 7 2004, 03:23
Dr. Octopus is the main villan for SM2. John Jameson and Eddie Brock are also supposed to make appearances.
I herd that Venom and Carnage wont bein SP3. Shame.
almighty skeptic
Mar 7 2004, 14:38
If Venom and Carnage won't be in SM3, then they should at least have Mysterio. It would be great to see a villan that could get inside Spidey's mind.
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inf|nity
Mar 7 2004, 14:39
I never really got in to the SP comics. Can anyone tell me more about Venom and Carnage?
Razorwing
Mar 7 2004, 15:14
I think they came from some experiment, but Carnage was a more mutated and deadly version of Venom.. that's what I think though..
raxidian
Mar 10 2004, 18:16
John Jameson's son was an astronaut, he went on a mission and brought back a parasite without knowing (symbiote venom). Spidey save the guys from the shuttle (I think) and he got infected and one morning he woke up and he was black suited spider-man and he realized that he had all his powers enhanced, he was stronger, faster. And Carnage was a piece of that symbiote that stucked with a psycho killer... that's why carnage uses knives, axes shaped weapons. (someone elaborate more, I've just saw this on the animated series)
its too bad Venom wont be in the third movie... mysterio really sucks
Boffa Jones
Mar 10 2004, 18:37
yeah if it works out the next movie will be the return of the green goblin with harry as the green goblin
macster
Mar 10 2004, 18:40
I really would like to see Vemon in Spiderman 3 but 2 looks pretty good
scoobydoobie
Mar 10 2004, 18:46
Quote - (raxidian @ Mar 10 2004, 18:16)
John Jameson's son was an astronaut, he went on a mission and brought back a parasite without knowing (symbiote venom). Spidey save the guys from the shuttle (I think) and he got infected and one morning he woke up and he was black suited spider-man and he realized that he had all his powers enhanced, he was stronger, faster. And Carnage was a piece of that symbiote that stucked with a psycho killer... that's why carnage uses knives, axes shaped weapons. (someone elaborate more, I've just saw this on the animated series)
its too bad Venom wont be in the third movie... mysterio really sucks

Jameson's son was an astronaut but he brought back a moon rock that turned him into a werewolf.
the symbiote black suite was originally gotten on a different world when Spiderman and other hero's faught in the secret wars against the beyonder. The suite turned out to be alive and spiderman denounced it. Eddy brock hated spiderman for ruining his new journalist career. Short story. Eddie Brock and the suite merged.
from the original spiderman comics
tylershaw
Mar 10 2004, 18:51
Black costume background - Spidey got the black costume during the "Secret Wars" mini-series way back in the 80's. Captain America had a busted shield and somewhere on the alien planet there was a machine that could read your thoughts and manifest your desired thought and the machine mended his shield. Spidey's costume ws ragged out so he went to the machine, made his "wish", and a black ball appeared. When he touched the ball it grew on him and it became his new suit. It was alive and symbiotic, but was also killing him so he rejected it and it's hated/loved him ever since.
I'm not sure where thta astronaut story came in. Is that part of the Ultimate series?
Secret Wars - 1984
ZeroSpice
Mar 10 2004, 19:04
The John Jameson account you refer to, is no where close to the comic book origin of the symbiote. Spidey received the alien costume during the Secret Wars comic series. A lot of super heroes got new duds during that, only Spidey's was actually an alien symbiote that had been brought to the planet by the Beyonder. Eventually Peter realized that it was invading his mind and sought to permanently remove it. Feeling spurned and hurt, it found someone that shared those same feelings..Eddie Brock (he blamed Spiderman for losing his job among other things). From that Venom was born. He has all of Spiderman's abilites plus doesn't set off Spidey's "spider sense". Later, when Spiderman defeated Venom, Eddie Brock went to prison where he was locked up with Kletus Casady, the serial killer. The alien symbiote went looking for Eddie and busted him out. During the escape a piece (most likely and offspring of some kind, since the symbiotes reproduce asexually) of the symbiote was left behind, which joined with Kletus to form Carnage. Carnage is more like a natural symbiote (no Spiderman abilities). On the surface it's kinda gooey and take the shape and form of whatever the host imagines, similar to the liquid Terminator.
Personally, I think Venom would be a good movie character because he represents the darker side of the vigilante. He is not inherently evil per se. He still has some moral code to protect the innocent and the like, he just punishes the "bad guys" violently without remorse. Carnage on the other hand is pure evil, he seeks to destroy and kill because he thinks it's fun. I would compare Venom more to Magneto. Both are labeled as "bad guys", but their intentions are similar to the heroes, just they go about it in extreme ways.
scoobydoobie
Mar 10 2004, 19:38
nyaa nyaa I beat all of you with the spiderman suite origin
Blues™
Mar 10 2004, 20:10
I htink the John Jameson story everyone thinks is the origin of venom from the early 90's fox cartoon sereis. In that series John Jameson was an anstrounaut and came back from space with the symbiote.
In the Ultimate Spiderman Storyline though, the symboite was something that Brock and Parker's fathers were working on together before they died. It was intended to bond to a person and help cure diseases (namely cancer).
DoeJohn531
Mar 10 2004, 21:12
Where venom came from depends on what year you bought comics, and/or what year you watched the animated series.
Boffa Jones
Mar 10 2004, 22:10
it would be the mos 'realistic' if they did it the john jameson way. It would also fit in a bit better.
AshMan
Mar 10 2004, 23:13
I hope that Venom and Carnage are brought back for SP3.
Flae_qui
Mar 10 2004, 23:19
eddie brock was named in the first movie when peter first went in to the paper to get the job... or am i wrong about that?
HellBender
Mar 10 2004, 23:22
Venom and carnage were two of the best villians in comic book history.
Venom and Carnage would be great.
I'd also love to see Mysterio, they could do some awesome graphics with his powers, would be unreal to see.
Good ol' fishbowl head.
And yeah, jameson's son being an astronaut and bringing the infected rock back is from "Spider-man: The Animated Series" or known as "Spider-man TAS". That 3 part episode is bloody great.
scoobydoobie
Mar 11 2004, 01:26
from what I've read, Curt Connors aka the lizard will possibly be the villian in the 3rd release
kennyout
Mar 11 2004, 01:32
wouldn't Venom and Carnage have to space time appart from each other?....i mean unless Carnage only shows up during the (1/4) of the 3rd movie(like a time difference....)....cause isn't there a space of time of each one seperate from each other....
Spiderman gets new suit from Space shuttle help...
Spiderman seperates self from suit
Suit ends up with Eddie Brock?....
Eventually something happens....venom goes semi good?
Carnage is seperated from venom through something....
Carnage gets in Insane person....kills people
Venom and Spiderman fight Carnage ?
I don't know how it goes...i can't remember the FOX cartoon too well...and the comics...well never really exposed...played the games though....hmmm SNES....ooooh cheat....maybe actually beat them this time ...emulate....errr...*kisses Cartrages of SNES Spiderman and Maximun Carnage*
Osiris
Mar 11 2004, 01:38
ah well they dont both have to be in it. Id settle for just venom, carnage is cooler but venom would do. Octavious and Mysterio suck donkey balls....
If they arent going to bring in venom then they could at least bring in KingPin he was cool.
But im still bucking for a venom!
Flae_qui
Mar 11 2004, 01:40
i know for a FACT the Stan Lee is not doing any cross movie villians.. there for since KingPin was in DD he will not be in any of the Spiderman movies
almighty skeptic
Mar 11 2004, 01:41
Quote - (scoobydoobie @ Mar 10 2004, 19:26)
from what I've read, Curt Connors aka the lizard will possibly be the villian in the 3rd release
That's just a rumor. Marvel wouldn't put two crappy villans in consecutive movies.
Can you imgine Venom and Carnage in CG? *droolz*
nazgul
Mar 11 2004, 01:46
Quote - (Flae_qui @ Mar 10 2004, 20:40)
i know for a FACT the Stan Lee is not doing any cross movie villians.. there for since KingPin was in DD he will not be in any of the Spiderman movies
Did you also know for a fact that Stan Lee actually has no control over the movies, or Marvel Comics in general? The reason you won't see character crossovers in the movies is because various studios own the movie rights to various characters, I.E. Universal has Hulk, Sony has Spider-man, and Fox has Daredevil and X-men...
AshMan
Mar 11 2004, 02:12
Is there a way we can start an internet campaign to get Venom and Carnage in SP3?
scoobydoobie
Mar 11 2004, 03:12
Venom is a terrible villian. "ill eat your eyeballs" and tongue slapping in the wind.. bleh. horrible but probably the best choice
mimeryme
Mar 11 2004, 06:09
Quote - (AshMan @ Mar 10 2004, 21:12)
Is there a way we can start an internet campaign to get Venom and Carnage in SP3?
What's that, Service Pack 3?
dior_addict
Mar 11 2004, 07:16
Spider-Man 3.
AshMan
Mar 11 2004, 07:36
Quote - (mimeryme @ Mar 11 2004, 06:09)
What's that, Service Pack 3?
Er, yeah
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