Quote - (Timan @ May 10 2004, 17:16)
how long did it take you to install darwin? mines been installing for well over 30 min

You don't need to install darwin - just use the OSX CD (image it first) and images provided on PearPC website.
Dazzla
May 10 2004, 17:21
Glad I still had my Panther CDs, first time I've seen a kernal panic as well. But it's there, click the thumbnail:
Quote - (aldo @ May 10 2004, 12:20)
You don't need to install darwin - just use the OSX CD (image it first) and images provided on PearPC website.
hmm i did make images but the cds didn't boot, it said install darwin first.
Liquid
May 10 2004, 17:23
Quote - (Dazzla @ May 10 2004, 09:21)
Glad I still had my Panther CDs, first time I've seen a kernal panic as well. But it's there, click the thumbnail:
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/sherry.pontin...earPC1Thumb.jpg Im gonna go out and buy panther right now!!!
Lexcyn
May 10 2004, 17:23
Quote - (Dazzla @ May 10 2004, 12:21)
Glad I still had my Panther CDs, first time I've seen a kernal panic as well. But it's there, click the thumbnail:

How'd you get it to work? lol I can't wait to get this working at home!
Ridgeburner
May 10 2004, 17:25
Another one of Dazzla's jokes

I fell for it last time
But this looks promising..."aquiring" panther now.
FatCat
May 10 2004, 17:26
Quote - (Dazzla @ May 10 2004, 11:21)
Glad I still had my Panther CDs, first time I've seen a kernal panic as well. But it's there, click the thumbnail:
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/sherry.pontin...earPC1Thumb.jpg the question is how does it run? is it really sluggish? can you please post a step by step guide how you set everything up? for people who don't even know how to install panther..
TranceSphere
May 10 2004, 17:27
installing 10.3 now

its very very slow
takes about 10 sec's for the menu to come up and the mouse jumps a lot.
I think i will stick with my g4
rocks1985
May 10 2004, 17:29
unbelievable....
Liquid
May 10 2004, 17:32
this is nice but also hard to beleive. Screenshots mean nothign to me, anyone can easily take a ss of there mac and paste it in the window. Someone use a digital camera and take a pic.
uniacid
May 10 2004, 17:33
is there any way to rip the image without using a mac?
Lexcyn
May 10 2004, 17:33
Quote - (Ridgeburner @ May 10 2004, 12:25)
Another one of Dazzla's jokes


lol a joke eh? Bah. I was all excited to run Panther at home! Hehe, well, I just hope it wasn't a joke.
You need to make them using disk utility, and make sure you use 'cd master' mode as opposed to the standard. You should get a filename ending in .cdr, copy that from your mac to your PC and then mount that using the PearPC config file.
Ridgeburner
May 10 2004, 17:34
Well Im sure the emulator itself isn't a joke, but I'm almost positive Dazzla's screenshot was
TranceSphere
May 10 2004, 17:35
Use alcohol 120% to rip the cd to ISO
rocks1985
May 10 2004, 17:37
So does it run all the animations of OS X? like genie effect and Expose?
Lexcyn
May 10 2004, 17:39
Quote - (Ridgeburner @ May 10 2004, 12:34)
Well Im sure the emulator itself isn't a joke, but I'm almost positive Dazzla's screenshot was

Darn!

*sigh* Too bad it wasn't real! I want OSX... but Mac's are expensive.
Dazzla
May 10 2004, 17:42
Quote - (Liquid @ May 10 2004, 18:32)
this is nice but also hard to beleive. Screenshots mean nothign to me, anyone can easily take a ss of there mac and paste it in the window. Someone use a digital camera and take a pic.
It's still sat there:
boocher
May 10 2004, 17:43
Hey Dazzla,
What todo list and calendar program is that? Quite nice!

_--boocher
Starman
May 10 2004, 17:44
Buy a cheap Mac.

Yes, there are cheap Macs out there despite what you might have heard. Check eBay, you'll be surprised.
But seriously...I'm going to try this when I get home. I have a 1.4GHz P4 sitting around that I can put it on.
I don't see how practical this is at this point, and I have to check the EULA but I believe there's a stipulation about running OS X on anything BUT Apple hardware. I hope these guys have lawyers.
Mike
Quote - (rocks1985 @ May 10 2004, 18:37)
So does it run all the animations of OS X? like genie effect and Expose?
Mate , no offense, but are you having a laugh? People already talked about the prospective CPU Speed... Do you really think it'd be capable of such things, when it appears even the mouse cursor cannot move smoothly?
and thats why your mac clock is different from your windows clock ? cos erm macs are in the future right ?
Dazzla
May 10 2004, 17:47
The Mac clock is US time (default). I live in the UK so the Windows time is my time, I just never bothered changing the Mac time during setup.
And to answer rocks1985, it's just kernal panicking all over the place and the actual PearPC crashing all the time, you can't do anything with it, it's just booted to the default desktop and that's it.
FatCat
May 10 2004, 17:47
Quote - (Dazzla @ May 10 2004, 11:42)
I think it froze we need another pose.
M. Seth
May 10 2004, 17:47
Quote - (boocher @ May 10 2004, 11:43)
Hey Dazzla,
What todo list and calendar program is that? Quite nice!

_--boocher
That is a program called rainlendar
rocks1985
May 10 2004, 17:51
I wonder what Steve Jobs is thinking right now...
M. Seth
May 10 2004, 17:53
Quote - (rocks1985 @ May 10 2004, 11:51)
I wonder what Steve Jobs is thinking right now...
I am pretty sure he's not worrying too much.
This surely isn't a true solution to running OS X on an x86 cpu. In order for it to be a true solution it would need to be able to be duel booted with XP or win2k. I doubt that it would become mainstream if it could only be run in a virtual world on top of another runnning OS.
Besides...most people buy macs not only for the OS...but also because of the pc design.
Jackalo
May 10 2004, 17:53
Dazzla, I'm just curious as to why your emulated Mac has 28.14GB free.
jack_canada
May 10 2004, 17:55
I'm interested!!!!! Can ppl that know how to use this thing add my msn wk1989@hotmail.com?
How do you get the change cd button? I used cmd from windows xp and executed the .exe with the config file. Norhing happened.
It says it couldn't find mandrake 9.2 cd, wtf???
NinjaMonkey82
May 10 2004, 17:56
Hey guys,
As a Mac user can I ask a question? What is really the point of doing this? I mean you won't really be able to run anything meaningful. Other than looking around OS X which you could easily do better at a store that sold Macs. You won't be able to really run any serious applications, so why bother? The only reason someone would use VPC on a Mac to run Windows is usually just because of some proprietary software they must use and are forced to.
Just wondering...
secretforce
May 10 2004, 17:57
I would really like to know if this works with 10.2
FatCat
May 10 2004, 17:58
Quote - (SW5 @ May 10 2004, 11:57)
I would really like to know if this works with 10.2

I heard it doesn't.
Dazzla
May 10 2004, 17:59
Quote - (Jackalo @ May 10 2004, 18:53)
Dazzla, I'm just curious as to why your emulated Mac has 28.14GB free.
Pass, I can't navigate within OS X to see anything, in fact I can't even boot into it at all now, I keep getting dumped at the prompt. I used the 6GB image and made 2 partitions in disk utility, but it didn't show up with that much in setup.
M. Seth
May 10 2004, 18:00
Quote - (NinjaMonkey82 @ May 10 2004, 11:56)
Hey guys,
As a Mac user can I ask a question? What is really the point of doing this? I mean you won't really be able to run anything meaningful. Other than looking around OS X which you could easily do better at a store that sold Macs. You won't be able to really run any serious applications, so why bother? The only reason someone would use VPC on a Mac to run Windows is usually just because of some proprietary software they must use and are forced to.
Just wondering...
I think the answer is....not because they would really use OS X....but because they can. It's truly the first time a a proprietary os can run on different architecture
SOOPAH256
May 10 2004, 18:03
Quote - (Dazzla @ May 10 2004, 10:59)
Pass, I can't navigate within OS X to see anything, in fact I can't even boot into it at all now, I keep getting dumped at the prompt. I used the 6GB image and made 2 partitions in disk utility, but it didn't show up with that much in setup.
so at this point, there's not really much use you can get out of osx through pearpc?
well that sucks...
Jackalo
May 10 2004, 18:03
Quote - (NinjaMonkey82 @ May 10 2004, 11:56)
Hey guys,
As a Mac user can I ask a question? What is really the point of doing this? I mean you won't really be able to run anything meaningful. Other than looking around OS X which you could easily do better at a store that sold Macs. You won't be able to really run any serious applications, so why bother? The only reason someone would use VPC on a Mac to run Windows is usually just because of some proprietary software they must use and are forced to.
Just wondering...
Simple answer...
Sherlock 3.
Jackalo
May 10 2004, 18:06
Quote - (jack_canada @ May 10 2004, 11:55)
I'm interested!!!!! Can ppl that know how to use this thing add my msn wk1989@hotmail.com?
How do you get the change cd button? I used cmd from windows xp and executed the .exe with the config file. Norhing happened.
It says it couldn't find mandrake 9.2 cd, wtf???
If you don't know how to edit the config file, then you don't belong trying to run the software. It's very early alpha, and would serve no purpose to you at this point in time. It would probably be in your best interest to wait until a version comes out down the line with a graphical configuration editor.
Well, this is the 0.1 version. Apparently the JITC (Just it time compiler) version is going to be anywhere between 10-100 times faster.
Add to this the fact that it will be easy for someone with a bit of know-how to start selling PCs with OSX pre-installed (running ontop of say, Debian) and having everything working as soon as you get it out of the box, will mean that Apple is looking in a BAD position with this tool.
If it got a lot faster and a translation from OSX graphic requests straight into the windows driver was possible, it would mean that all the effects would work too.
This is going to be very intresting and I'm sure when Apple hears about this they will not be very happy.
NinjaMonkey82
May 10 2004, 18:07
lmao
gotta love Sherlock.......
Jackalo
May 10 2004, 18:09
Yes! =)
NinjaMonkey82
May 10 2004, 18:12
Does anyone still use Sherlock? I sure as hell don't.
Starman
May 10 2004, 18:13
Quote - (AthleticTrainer1981 @ May 10 2004, 14:00)
I think the answer is....not because they would really use OS X....but because they can. It's truly the first time a a proprietary os can run on different architecture
Hardly.
The Mac was emulated on an Atari ST MANY years ago.
Mike
misecia
May 10 2004, 18:17
its common knowledge that Apple has a version of OSX that runs on an x86 processor, so i don't think they'll be very worried about a 3rd rate emulator
hanxuuk
May 10 2004, 18:17
Sorry just wondering, what's the difference between JITC and the one without JITC? Which should I use?
Jackalo
May 10 2004, 18:17
Quote - (NinjaMonkey82 @ May 10 2004, 12:12)
Does anyone still use Sherlock? I sure as hell don't.
I use it everytime I visit the Apple Store. No Windows application can match it.
NinjaMonkey82
May 10 2004, 18:17
Quote - (Starman @ May 10 2004, 18:13)
Hardly.
The Mac was emulated on an Atari ST MANY years ago.
Mike
Not to mention that I can run WinXP Pro on my PowerBook just fine.
Unless he doesn't consider Windows proprietary....lol
SOOPAH256
May 10 2004, 18:18
i think this would just boost sales.
this is just what i'm thinking right now, w/o too much know to back up my thinking.
but i feel that most mac users are pretty loyal to apple. they love the design, the flow of everything, etc.
i'm not sure as to how many current mac users would get a PC just to emulate OSX...
although there seems to be quite a frenzy here @ neowin.
NinjaMonkey82
May 10 2004, 18:19
Quote - (Jackalo @ May 10 2004, 18:17)
I use it everytime I visit the Apple Store. No Windows application can match it.
You know I was just going to say only a Windows user would be amazed with Sherlock...
(By the way I'm just joking don't flame me or anything.)
Jackalo
May 10 2004, 18:21
Quote - (NinjaMonkey82 @ May 10 2004, 12:19)
You know I was just going to say only a Windows user would be amazed with Sherlock...
(By the way I'm just joking don't flame me or anything.)
No harm done.
OS X is the stuff that dreams are made of.
Jackalo
May 10 2004, 18:23
Quote - (SOOPAH256 @ May 10 2004, 12:18)
i think this would just boost sales.
this is just what i'm thinking right now, w/o too much know to back up my thinking.
but i feel that most mac users are pretty loyal to apple. they love the design, the flow of everything, etc.
i'm not sure as to how many current mac users would get a PC just to emulate OSX...
although there seems to be quite a frenzy here @ neowin.

It may boost sales of their operating system, but unfortunately, most of their profit is made from hardware sales and not software.
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