I have had luck loosing to the emulated OS X chess!

Chess on OS X.2

what is your config filename?

you should type

ppc configfilename

mitodna

nice man, but i am using OS X.3

could that be the problem?

mitodna

I think I have found a way (at least it works for me) to change CDs without rebooting:

Drag the CD to the eject arrow.
Let go the mouse button.
immediately hit F12.
Immediately click the "Change CD" button
It should pop up a dialog box that allows you to select a different ISO or even IMG file (although the IMG file is seen as a CD)

It works for me, but it requires a little playing with the timing.

Let me know if anyone else has luck with this, or if I am missing an easier way of doing this.

Thanks,

Jon

well i changed the names of the files and for some reason they are working now.

I remebered to bring home some Panther CD's from my G4 at work, so I will be trying this out tonight

is ur running slow? or did u tweak the crap outta it? hehe

i just got my new pc up and running no more doing this on my laptizzy

Oh great.. so been chugging away for ages at this only to find that MagicISO (and probably Windows) can't interpret a MacOS X install CD!!

Nero will make an image of the CD in its NRG format, but then when I try and convert it from an NRG to an ISO with MagicISO, it reckons the image is blank!!

*edit*

Ahhh.. matters not.. off we go

Dazzla, whats you redraw rate? How do you get that funky flag icon?!

Dazzla post your config file...everyone wants to see it I am curious too.

ok, i've done everything in the tutorials but it still won't work for me, so i must be doing something wrong...



- i have the 6GB disk image in my pearpc directory
- i have unzipped the win32-jitc version in my pearpc directory
- i've made a config file for my system, named "ppc_configfile", and it looks like this:
#PearPC configuration file

#Screen Resolution ID
#Current = 800*600*15
ppc_start_resolution=-1

#Redraw Interval in ms (1-999)
redraw_interval_msec=200

#Boot Mode : auto, select or force
#(force is not implemented in Config GUI yet)
prom_bootmethod="select"

#Boot Method : "-v" = verbose
#"-s" = single-user mode (usefull to format Mac OS X drive from Darwin)
prom_env_machargs="-s"

#This is needed if you want to boot Mac OS X
prom_driver_graphic="video.x"

#CPU config : defaults to 0x00088302
#cpu_pvr = 0x00088302

#Memory Size (default 128 MiB, must be >= 64 MiB)
memory_size=0x8000000

#IO Devices

#Master Device
pci_ide0_master_installed=1
pci_ide0_master_image="C:\pearpc\macosx_6gb_unjournaled.img"
pci_ide0_master_type="hd"

#Slave Device
pci_ide0_slave_installed=1
pci_ide0_slave_image="F:\Mac OSX 10.3 CD 1.iso"
pci_ide0_slave_type="cdrom"

#Network (unavailable on Windows)
pci_3c90x_installed=0
pci_3c90x_mac="de:ad:ca:fe:12:34"

#USB Device
pci_usb_installed=1

#NVRAM
nvram_file="nvram"

i've followed all the steps and yet it still won't work, for the love of God, someone freakin' enlighten me PLEASE!!!
everytime i double click on ppc.exe, it says usage: ppc configfile, and i don't have any clue what that means. should i be running my config file from the run window? if so, how do i do this? i'm not trying to be annoying, i just want a little help. thanks

Couple things:

Yes, you really should be running this from the "cmd" prompt.

1. this line: ppc_start_resolution=-1
should be this: ppc_start_resolution=4

2: this line: pci_ide0_slave_installed=1
pci_ide0_slave_image="F:\Mac OSX 10.3 CD 1.iso"

Is f: your CD-ROM? if so, this won't work... it needs to be an actual ISO made from something like Alcohol120 or Alcohol52 and put it in your pearpc directory.
If f: is actually a hard drive... never mind.

3: this line: prom_env_machargs="-s"
should be: prom_env_machargs=""

You can make these changes to the file "ppc_configfile" in notepad or wordpad (or any text editor). After you make the changes and save the file do the following:

goto Start>Run and type "cmd" (without the quotes) and hit enter
at the prompt type "cd \" (without the quotes) and hit enter
type "cd pearpc" (without the quotes) and hit enter
then type "ppc ppc_configfile"(without the quotes) and hit enter

you should then be prompted to select a boot partition (select the one that has the CD in it)

Hopefully, you will eventually get to the install screen.

You may need to open the disk utility and format the HD. If you get that far post back. I usually use the partition tab of the disk utility instead of the erase.

HTH,

Jon Davis

It's not some magical config file that makes it run twice as fast or anything looks the same as everyone elses.

bah the mouse isnt working and i have usb enabled.... what is the key to switch between fields. tab doesnt work.

Would it be possible to enable a second image as a 2nd drive?

sure, put it in a secoundary master. i dont think it has been tried so i will do it right now

hah! Still, howd you get that funky icon there

Are you using Windowblinds? If so, use the Per Application settings to exclude PearPC from WB skinning.

Great! Finally got it to work! I must say I'm quite impressed by how fast it works. Of course it is nowhere the speed of a real Mac but knowing how difficult PPC emulation is I expected it to perform a lot worse. Can't wait for the next version

Here's a screenshot:

http://www.richardgoodwin.com/pearpc/

thanks for yourr help jon, but everytime i attempt to run the config file from the run dialog, it gives me this message:

D:\pearpc>ppc ppc configfile (this is what i type in)
usage: ppc configfile (this is what it tells me)

and when i type in:
D:\pearpc>ppc ppc_configfile
ppc_configfile: I/O error: No such file or directory (this is what it tell me if i type in anything except the first example)

i'm not really sure why i won't run the file, the name of my configfile is "' ppc_configfile'' (with the space mark in the file name) . it's in the pearpc folder along with a .bat file with the same name. any ideas?

I followed the example from Kevin Rose on TechTV and downloaded his two premade config files for Darwin and Mac OS X.

Their file names are:

ppccfg.darwin

and

ppccfg.osx


The default config file that comes with the PearPC has an .example extension.

Totally...and there were so many who said it couldn't be done.

u don't need any extensions for that config file .. its just a plain text file ...

hehe, monkey island!

Howd you get american flag there

i tried the kevin rose config file and it gives me the same message:
D:\pearpc>ppccfg.osx (this is what i put in)
'ppccfg.osx' is not recognized as an internal or external command, operable program or batch file

and then when i type...
D:\pearpc>ppc ppccfg.osx
ppccfg.osx: I/O error: No such file or directory
usage: ppc configfile

why am i the only one having this problem???

Hmm.. anyone have a link to a 6GB hard drive image? I have tried the one on the offical site, but everytime I try to use it, it gives me a: "[IO/IDE] <Error> invalid format <filesize isn't a multiple of 516096>"

here my updated (but non-functinal) config file:

# PearPC Configuration File

#
# Resolution
#
# 0: 640x480x8 (indexed)
# 1: 640x480x15
# 2: 640x480x32
# 3: 800x600x8 (indexed)
# 4: 800x600x15
# 5: 800x600x32
# 6: 1024x768x8 (indexed)
# 7: 1024x768x15
# 8: 1024x768x32
#
# The indexed modes are unsupported.
#
# default: 4
ppc_start_resolution = 4


#
# Redraw interval (in ms)
# must be between 1 and 999
#
# If you set this higher, PearPC will spend less time doing redraws (and so run faster)
# but feel less responsive. You should adjust this to your computer speed and personal
# preference.
#
redraw_interval_msec = 200

#
# Loader
#

#
# Boot method
# this can be
# 1. "auto", prom will boot the first bootable partition found (default)
# 2. "select", prom will show you a list of bootable partitions
# 3. "force", prom will load and boot the local file prom_loadfile
#
prom_bootmethod = "select"

# Example of how to use "force":
#prom_bootmethod = "force"
#prom_loadfile = "test/yaboot"
#prom_env_bootpath = "disk"

#
# bootargs: don't change unless you know what you are doing
# machargs: set to "-v" to get a verbose startup
#

#prom_env_bootargs = ""
prom_env_machargs = "-v"

#
# This is needed if you want to boot Mac OS X
#

prom_driver_graphic = "video.x"


# This will adjust the position of the initial page table (don't change)
#page_table_pa = 104857600

#
# CPU Config
#
# Processor Version Register
# Defaults to 0x00088302
# Only change if you know want you are doing
#
#cpu_pvr = 0x00088302


#
# Main memory (default 128 MiB)
# must be >= 64 MiB
#
#memory_size=0x8000000

#
# IO Devices
#

#
# PCI IDE Config
#
# Drive type will be set according to file extension:
# .img: Harddisk (filesize must be multiple of 516096)
# .iso: CD-Rom
# Or you can override this by specifying the type via
# pci_ide0_master_type / pci_ide0_slave_type

pci_ide0_master_installed = 1
pci_ide0_master_image = "macosx_6gb_unjournaled.img"
#pci_ide0_master_type = "hd"

pci_ide0_slave_installed = 1
#pci_ide0_slave_image = "darwin-701.iso"
pci_ide0_slave_image = "Mac OSX 10.3 CD 1"
#pci_ide0_slave_image = "/dev/cdrom"
pci_ide0_slave_type = "cdrom"

#
# Network (unavailable on windows)
#
pci_3c90x_installed = 0
pci_3c90x_mac = "de:ad:ca:fe:12:34"

#
# USB
#
pci_usb_installed = 1

#
# NVRAM
#
nvram_file = "nvram"

when i type in:

D:\pearpc>ppc ppccfg.cfg
it says...

This program is free software: you can dsitribute it and/or modify it under the terms of the GNU General Public License version 2 as published by the Free Software Foundation

This program is distributed in the hope that it will be usefil, but WITHOUT ANY WARRANTY; without even the implied warranty of MECHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE. See the GNU General Public License for more details.

You hould receive a copy of the GNU General Public License along with this program; if not, write to the Free Software Foundation, Inc.,59 Temple Place, Suite 330, Boston, MA 02111 USA

[IO/IDE] <Error> Mac OSX 10.3 CD 1: could not open file <No error>

You left out the extension after pci_ide0_slave_image = "Mac OSX 10.3 CD 1" ... it should point to the .iso file

you also need to comment out the networking stuff- change it to

#pci_3c90x_installed = 0
#pci_3c90x_mac = "de:ad:ca:fe:12:34"

edit:
#pci_ide0_slave_image = "darwin-701.iso" -> pci_ide0_slave_image = "darwin-701.iso"
pci_ide0_slave_image = "Mac OSX 10.3 CD 1" -> #pci_ide0_slave_image = "Mac OSX 10.3 CD 1"

try that

Well, it works. OS X Running Windows Running OS X

Hi,


Do you think it will run OKAY on my computer. (Mac OS 10.3 Panther)

I have a copy of it and I want to try it.

AMD XP 2400+ (2.00GHz)
512 Ram
40GB HD


What do you think?
Is it very hard to get to work?

Thanks

Kayle

this itself has renewed my interest in getting a mac.
I think everyone here would wish OSX ran on pc

this owns so bad, I feel like running down to the local compusa and getting a copy of panther (I won't )

Glad I own an old beige G3. (Slow 300MHz w/ 96MB of ram and OS X 10.1)

Nuts nuts...

You did it correctly when you typed: "ppc ppc_configfile"

The problem is that you in your sample:

D:\pearpc>ppc ppc_configfile

You are on the D: drive but in the sample of the ppc_configfile you posted earlier, you have this line:

#Master Device
pci_ide0_master_installed=1
pci_ide0_master_image="C:\pearpc\macosx_6gb_unjournaled.img"
pci_ide0_master_type="hd"

You have your image listed as in the pearpc folder on the C: drive. You need to make sure that they all point to the correct drive and location:

sorry about the confusion, but i changed it to D in my new config as well. i tried evacsoul's suggestion and i managed to get the PPC screen, but then i get this message:

[CPU/MMU] new pagetable: sdr1 = 0x00300003
[CPU/MMU] new pagetable: sdr1 accepted
[CPU/MMU] number of pages: 2^15 pagetable_start: 0x00300000 size: 2^18
[IO/PROM] <Error> Can't open boot file

right before i get the last line with the error, PPC shows only one bootable partition, labeled:
"1. partition 2 of 'disk0' (Apple_HFS_Untitled_2/Apple_HFS)
i pick this as my choice and then i get the error...

Did I hear the words Speed Boost?? How... How...

@Kayle12 I am running an AMD 1800+ with 512mb of ram and it works fine, nice and fast too! well quick enough for me!

dude .. I tried that way before u did ..

http://www.neowin.net/forum/index.php?show...c=165720&st=720

That's the currently selected keyboard layout...

I got that error for a while. What is the exact filesize of your disk image when you get that error?

When I recieved that error, I found that my 6gb images were only extracting to ~4 gigabytes (hence, the faulty disk geometry). I checked the disk the PearPC was on and found out to be a Fat32 drive.

A Fat32 drive will only support filesizes up to ~4gb in size, hence the whole disk image could not be extracted and used.

I converted my drive to NTFS and it created the whole 6gb drive file that worked perfectly.

Yeah, ram is my achille's heel when it comes to speed I can do something about.

My whole system only has 256mb which is fine for Windows XP, but a Mac sitting on top of it really sucks down the MB.

Okay I tryed the premade 3gb image and it did not work. It installed completly but it said I didnt have any bootable partitions. So back to the start.

I am now using the 6gb image and using darwin.
Is it supposed to sit at "The following Devices are available for installation" without showing anything or am I running into more problems?
If so how long have you guys been waiting?

My new config file for Darwin



i will get this to work. holds fist in air

@Kayle12... I'm running an OCed 600 MHz Celeron (to about 750 MHZ) with 384 MB ram and it runs decently for me. I mean, I really can't complain. Performance right now primarily deals with the architecture of the program itself, and it's lack of support for many of the instructions (altivec etc.) inherent to a PPC processor. Albeit you probably shouldn't try to run it on a crappy system (OK so I'm a hypocrit ). Your system is not crappy! Give it a few months, a few years even perhaps, and performance will increase. I wish I could hop onto the dev. team myself... Anyway, you should be fine with your config. ESPECIALLY if you open up the Task Manager and give it a higher processor priority, and increase the ram size in the config file. While this kills other system performance... it makes OSX go visibly faster. GL with the install.

John

With the amount of excitement that is pushing this and the fact that anyone can jump on board and help development I think this is going to be one wild ride.

I'd love to see where this goes and what will IBM or Motorola do bout it.