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Siliad
GCC is the GNU C Compiler that Linux uses.
Rek™
I messed windows up for one night I think i'll just watch this thread smile.gif
Jackalo
Quote - (jack_canada @ May 10 2004, 16:04)
I don't have a mac right now, is there any way to do it on windows?

If you had read my entire statement, the answer should be quite obvious to you.
Jackalo
As for changing the CPU MHz values in the *.h files, no effect.
SkyyPunk
Crunchy
I have been trying this but I cant get it to boot can anyone telly me what this error message means?
I'm not sure that I setup my img file properly. The error is APPLEMAC IO TEST FAILS
chrischua83
is it possible to run it on my AMD XP 1800++, 512DDR Ram machine?
SkyyPunk
Quote - (Crunchy @ May 11 2004, 00:30)
I have been trying this but I cant get it to boot can anyone telly me what this error message means?
I'm not sure that I setup my img file properly. The error is APPLEMAC IO TEST FAILS

yea mine does it to, it takes a while to actually load though, thats normal what you see
Timan
did any of yall actually install darwin like the walkthrough said? I've been installing it since 11am, about 10 hrs now. stillll goin sad.gif
Jackalo
This might feel like a kick in the balls...

http://pearpc.sourceforge.net/installmacos.html

Note step four.

Quote -
Follow the Darwin installation for creating the right partitions to your hard disk.


I don't think a full Darwin Installation is required, only the partitioning.
Timan
Quote - (Jackalo @ May 10 2004, 19:48)
This might feel like a kick in the balls...

http://pearpc.sourceforge.net/installmacos.html

Note step four.



I don't think a full Darwin Installation is required, only the partitioning.

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We're done with the partition map. Enter reboot and wait for PearPC to quit.

Now restart PearPC.

Wait again (and possible wait some more again) and when asked enter  1 as device, 0 as partition and then yes to confirm  the installation to the selected disk.


Its funny that the installation of darwin asked for the last stuff, when the partitioning didn't, maybe this is why no one can install it?
Jackalo
I'm building an unofficial guide (like I did for SheepShaver) for PearPC. You can follow it over at E-Maculation.

http://www.emaculation.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=934

I left out the whole Darwin partitioning bit, but I'm feeling lazy/tired at the moment.

If anyone who has successfully gotten Mac OS X to the installer or beyond sees something that I'm not doing (or doing wrong) in the guide, please let me know.
Timan
Quote - (Jackalo @ May 10 2004, 19:51)
I'm building an unofficial guide (like I did for SheepShaver) for PearPC. You can follow it over at E-Maculation.

http://www.emaculation.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=934

I left out the whole Darwin partitioning bit, but I'm feeling lazy/tired at the moment.

If anyone who has successfully gotten Mac OS X to the installer or beyond sees something that I'm not doing (or doing wrong) in the guide, please let me know.

ah I knew your name looked fimilar, from emac!
Jackalo
Yes, that would be me.
Azadre
Is only the first CD necessary to install 10.3?
Jackalo
I'm affraid that I have no idea, as I've never installed OS X before. To be on the safe side, I ripped both CD's (macosx_1.img and macosx_2.img).
Timan
I believe so, or that was the case with 10.2 just do not install anything but the os, so uncheck everything.
Kennel
Quote - (hanxuuk @ May 10 2004, 19:34)
still no answer, what is JITS?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Just-in-time
Pixelwix
looks like i'm getting somewhere but its taking forever lol, my ibooks installs osx in less than 20mins
Redestium
Jackalo, maybe you should talk to Dazzla it seems he got it to boot at least.
Jackalo
At least you got farther than I did.
Timan
pixelwit did you install darwin?
jazzman
this is how my installation is going:
SkyyPunk


no darwin or anything...
i was installing panther but i forgot the panther i have is upgrade, so i am now installing 10.2, then may put panther on tomorrow...

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# PearPC Configuration File

#
# Resolution
#
# 0: 640x480x8 (indexed)
# 1: 640x480x15
# 2: 640x480x32
# 3: 800x600x8 (indexed)
# 4: 800x600x15
# 5: 800x600x32
# 6: 1024x768x8 (indexed)
# 7: 1024x768x15
# 8: 1024x768x32
#
# The indexed modes are unsupported.
#
# default: 4
ppc_start_resolution = 5


#
# Redraw interval (in ms)
# must be between 1 and 999
#
# If you set this higher, PearPC will spend less time doing redraws (and so run faster)
# but feel less responsive. You should adjust this to your computer speed and personal
# preference.
#
redraw_interval_msec = 200

#
# Loader
#

#
# Boot method
#  this can be
#  1. "auto", prom will boot the first bootable partition found (default)
#  2. "select", prom will show you a list of bootable partitions
#  3. "force", prom will load and boot the local file prom_loadfile
#
prom_bootmethod = "select"

# Example of how to use "force":
#prom_bootmethod = "force"
#prom_loadfile = "test/yaboot"
#prom_env_bootpath = "disk"

#
# bootargs: don't change unless you know what you are doing
# machargs: set to "-v" to get a verbose startup
#

#prom_env_bootargs = ""
prom_env_machargs = "-v"

#
# This is needed if you want to boot Mac OS X
#

prom_driver_graphic = "video.x"


# This will adjust the position of the initial page table (don't change)
#page_table_pa = 104857600

#
# CPU Config
#
# Processor Version Register
# Defaults to 0x00088302
# Only change if you know want you are doing
#
#cpu_pvr = 0x00088302


#
# Main memory (default 128 MiB)
# must be >= 64 MiB
#
#memory_size=0x8000000

#
# IO Devices
#

#
# PCI IDE Config
#
# Drive type will be set according to file extension:
#  .img: Harddisk (filesize must be multiple of 516096)
#  .iso: CD-Rom
# Or you can override this by specifying the type via
# pci_ide0_master_type / pci_ide0_slave_type

pci_ide0_master_installed = 1
pci_ide0_master_image = "myHD.img"
pci_ide0_master_type = "hd"

pci_ide0_slave_installed = 1
pci_ide0_slave_image = "D:\Isos\Applications\PearPC\os102.iso"
#pci_ide0_slave_image = "/dev/cdrom"
pci_ide0_slave_type = "cdrom"

#
# Network (unavailable on windows)
#
pci_3c90x_installed = 0
pci_3c90x_mac = "de:ad:ca:fe:12:34"

#
# USB
#
pci_usb_installed = 1

#
# NVRAM
#
nvram_file = "nvram"


i made my iso of the OS10.2 DVD and Panther CDs on my PC using Roxio Media Creator, and they all load fine.
When the install booted up, i went to Installer, Disk Manager, and erased my virtual disk and formatted as MAC OS something (not the journaled one), this was the 6gb file downloaded from their site. then i went back and went through the install as normal

fishie
this may sound dumb but is this only for osx? i think i have a os 9 cd somewhere and possible a jaguar one.
Pixelwix
no there is no darwin installation needed you only need that to make the hdd for installing but you can just download the one off the site and use disk utility to format it

-click on the disk
-macos extended
- and erase, leave the name as is or it won't work
and install
T0Y S0LDIER
so i went and snagged a copy of bochs 2.1.1 to make an image of a hard drive because i couldnt use the ones on the site and i all i get is the size is wrong... not a multiple of 516096... ok, im aware of this by this point, but what is a multiple of that that will be smaller than say 3 gig or less??

TS
nuka_t
Quote - (fishie @ May 11 2004, 03:03)
this may sound dumb but is this only for osx? i think i have a os 9 cd somewhere and possible a jaguar one.

you can try. it should work but dont quote me on that. also remember taht this emulates a 10mhz cpu.
Timan
Your almost at your first boot into the os it self.
T0Y S0LDIER
or could someone explain how to makes the hd images from the site work??

TS
spacey
this looks neat. has anyone actually successfully installed it though?
KeR
dazzla has.
fishie
dazzla = owange
Timan
Quote - (KeR @ May 10 2004, 22:12)
dazzla has.

rolleyes.gif http://www.twistedcpu.com/tim/desktops/mac/virgin_mac.jpg looks so fimilar lol
KeR
lmao ok
fishie
oh so pretty!
win2k3man
well i must say this is good but its so slow if only we could work how to make it go faster then
10 MHZ LOL then this would be sweet its a big break threw i have to say
i'm trying to install panther now
Liquid
Quote - (Timan @ May 10 2004, 19:15)

He did a good photoshop then it says dazzala where tim is. Anyone can open that screen. but then again, it is dazzla lol, tricky guy he is.
Timan
Quote - (Liquid @ May 10 2004, 22:30)
He did a good photoshop then it says dazzala where tim is. Anyone can open that screen. but then again, it is dazzla lol, tricky guy he is.

yea I wonder who he got it from devil.gif
jazzman
not sure if his screenshot is fake.... there are more things than the name seperating the two images, and besides, many of us have reached pretty far into the installation process ... mine is purring along quite nicely ... about 2 hours remaining
Timan
if it isn't fake, look at the bottom of the finder window tongue.gif
Starman
Installing Mac OS X Server smile.gif

Mike
Timan
Hmm made some images in disk utitily but i guess the image are not bootable? because i can only boot off the darwin iso
DKAngel
atleast im getting somewhere
might try 2 versions one with darwin installed and one without darwin to see how it goes
http://members.iinet.net.au/~joz/osx1.JPG

actually wondering if anyone has played with the ram hex in the config file ichanged it to 0x080000 and it still ran but i dont really know what its doing
Liquid
Quote - (DKAngel @ May 10 2004, 19:52)
atleast im getting somewhere
might try 2 versions one with darwin installed and one without darwin to see how it goes
http://members.iinet.net.au/~joz/osx1.JPG

actually wondering if anyone has played with the ram hex in the config file ichanged it to 0x080000 and it still ran but i dont really know what its doing

My (actualyl neighbours) cd will be here tomorrow or the next day smile.gif Can't wait to try this smile.gif
Trek234
Quote - (aldo @ May 10 2004, 18:06)
Well, this is the 0.1 version. Apparently the JITC (Just it time compiler) version is going to be anywhere between 10-100 times faster.

Add to this the fact that it will be easy for someone with a bit of know-how to start selling PCs with OSX pre-installed (running ontop of say, Debian) and having everything working as soon as you get it out of the box, will mean that Apple is looking in a BAD position with this tool.

If it got a lot faster and a translation from OSX graphic requests straight into the windows driver was possible, it would mean that all the effects would work too.

This is going to be very intresting and I'm sure when Apple hears about this they will not be very happy.

And what exactly will apple do? If you know anything about emulation history you should be fully aware the courts have consistantly ruled (in most western nations) that emulators are perfectly legal unless they are directly including copyrighted code.

So unless apple can prove this emulator is composed of code they have written they don't have a legal leg to stand on.

Aditionally, emulators exist for a variety of consoles. (and even other computer systems) I have yet to see any evidence that they have damaged the company that produces the hardware in any way. In fact, it could actually HELP in some cases. Take the Xbox for instance. At times the Xbox is costing them more to make than what they are selling it for. Like Sony and Nintendo the REAL money comes from SOFTWARE sales NOT hardware.

Personally I enjoy using emulators for my playstation 1 games especially as I am final fantasy fan. Get your self final fantasy 8 and run it on a playstation one. Then run it on the latest epsxe with Pete's latest GPU. Graphics are FAR FAR enhanced over the PS1. You have to see it to believe it.

Anyway, I see nothing wrong with running software on different hardware so long as you have bought the software.

By the way - even *IF* apple complained about this - does anyone remember when Apple themselves released software to run Windows (or windows apps) way back when and included it with their systems? Talk about the pot calling the kettle black... Even Microsoft didn't have the balls to challenge them on that. I would love to see that little fact brought up in court.
Siliad
Installing Darwin...so far, so good biggrin.gif.
DKAngel
http://members.iinet.net.au/~joz/osx2.JPG

its getting there
this is without darwin installed also
http://members.iinet.net.au/~joz/osx3.JPG
Starman
The big difference between running Windows on a Mac and OS X on Windows is that the Mac hardware is proprietary. THAT is the problem.

Mike
SkyyPunk
dont have to leave HD name to whatever it says......

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