Quote - (Fonze @ May 28 2004, 19:41)
PearPC may make or break a normal user's decision on whether they would want to switch to a mac, but it should never change a gamers mind. I run a p4 3ghz with 1gb of ram, and my comp is primarily used to play games, watch DVDs in college, and re-encode TV that i record on my server. Switching to a mac is completely impractical to me. that's why I like being able to use PearPC to atleast try out some of the stuff in OSX and run a mac app, if i find one that i need at some point.
that is the flaw with emulating a PC on a Mac, you can't emulate the PC to play games. but on a PC i can play games and emulate the mac to do other things
That works tw0-fold tho. I really don't see you running Final Cut or DVD Studio Pro on PearPC... Aside from that, what happened to font rendering? The fonts look awful on the desktop / finder...
Liquid
May 28 2004, 23:40
Quote - (Eastwood @ May 28 2004, 14:55)
how can I install office 2004? I've seen screenshots of ppl showing it off, but how?
Magic my friend. magic. First off, go buy Office 2004. Rip the image using nero. Mount it using the config file in ppc and install.
ZTrang
May 28 2004, 23:43
Quote - (werejag @ May 28 2004, 04:05)
typical bush-ite
cant be bothered to read.
Can't be bothered to read 136 pages of posts spanning over a week at all hours of the day? That is true. However, only ignorance could cause you to make a comment like that. Hypothetically, even if only business owners supported Bush, do you think that none of them can be bothered to read? No, they work their butts off reading more than you probably even want to think about reading. Expand that support base to everybody else who supports Bush, and I think that you'll find that most people who support Bush do indeed read a lot.
Litespeed
May 29 2004, 00:01
Errrr, can we keep the political stuff out of this thread? It's getting bloated enough as it is.
Fozzieb
May 29 2004, 01:46
Ok, I have a usb adsl connection, How do i get it to work.
I have installed the openVPN driver
I have configured It and enabled ICS on the adsl connection
I have set up the network under OSX i get a green light on the setup page, but when i try to open a browser it wont connect.
I cant bridge the connections under XP either
any ideas where i'm going wrong?
anyhoo i'm off for some shut eye
gamestargrinder
May 29 2004, 01:46
ok well i just reinstalled 10.3.4 update and tried almost 15 things to get 10.3.4 to say cable connected and it still isnt working
aka JAWheat411
May 29 2004, 03:18
willvg
Did you bridge your two connections in your windows network connections?
You have to uncheck Internet Connection Sharing first.
Then restart PearPC
Quote - (Liquid @ May 28 2004, 11:08)
His guide isn't clear. Use mine
GuideWhat you need to do is type in shell and press enter and then type pdisk. Are using darwin though? You need darwin for the boot fix.
my guide isn't clear ehh .. Thanks !!
Did you really read it though ? I sure read yours .. I don't think its more clearer than mine in anyway.
And you are still mentioning darwin there ..which isn't necessary at all.
btw.. we are not competing here .. I am just here to help others.
Tekmaven
May 29 2004, 03:59
I'm starting work on my Frontend. Attached is a screenshot. So far, I have the properties working, and the basic style down ;-).
I'll be working on it more
Edit: When I'm ready to release a version, it will become open sourced, just want to make that clear ;-). My first open source application
. I figure, if PearPC is open source, why not make my app open source
.
Quote - (Tekmaven @ May 28 2004, 21:59)
I'm starting work on my Frontend. Attached is a screenshot. So far, I have the properties working, and the basic style down ;-).
I'll be working on it more
Edit: When I'm ready to release a version, it will become open sourced, just want to make that clear ;-). My first open source application
. I figure, if PearPC is open source, why not make my app open source
.
OT: are you Steven Bink ??
coolness i like the work Tekmaven
Tekmaven: looks great, i like the VS.net 2003 look
Quote - (Rudy @ May 29 2004, 04:05)
Tekmaven: looks great, i like the VS.net 2003 look
i second that....very pro looking
Liquid
May 29 2004, 04:08
awsome looking. 1 question. Does PearPC run inside of that? Are you staking the window from PearPC and putting it in your app?
ZTrang
May 29 2004, 04:10
Quote - (Litespeed @ May 29 2004, 00:01)
Errrr, can we keep the political stuff out of this thread? It's getting bloated enough as it is.
Werejag started it! However, sure, I'll stop bloating the thread
By the way, has anybody attempted to play any Mac games (such as EV Nova) using PearPC? Obviously they would run slowly, but can anybody get them to run at all? Also, how do device drivers for PearPC work? For example, how do you install video and sound card drivers for your "virtual mac"?
Tekmaven
May 29 2004, 04:13
I'm not bink, I work for him (my name is Ryan).
Currently, I can't display the PearPC Video in the app, because PearPC doesn't support that type of thing. I'm going to be talking to the Win32 dev's soon about ways we can get around this. Maybe this could even become the full GUI ;-). Much more to come on the app; it's not even an ounce of what I want it to be.
I'm closing down for the night now, so I appoligize if I don't reply to more questions until tomorrow!
Im still having problem with the networking. Now Im trying using a bridge and no luck
I know the networkiing is working because I can share files via FTP but I dont know why I cant access the internet .
Liquid
May 29 2004, 06:38
Quote - (KoL @ May 28 2004, 22:35)
Im still having problem with the networking. Now Im trying using a bridge and no luck
I know the networkiing is working because I can share files via FTP but I dont know why I cant access the internet .
Bridge doesn't share connection I just networks them. (correct me if Im wrong)
does anyone know a site that hosts the newest builds that include the patches for full screen and refresh rate?
ScottKin
May 29 2004, 10:10
Quote - (five04 @ May 10 2004, 16:00)
actually there is a working xbox emulator.
http://www.caustik.com/cxbx/the latest version that'll be out will emulate at least turok at full speed. there's even a video you can download showing it. the xbox isn't that difficult considering it's x86.
So, how good is an XBox emu when it WON'T EVEN RUN RETAIL, COMMERCIAL GAMES?!?
IMHO, CxBx is what we call a "living abortion".
--SK
Tekmaven
May 29 2004, 10:38
Guys, please try to say on topic.
Knight'
May 29 2004, 10:42
At around 2200 replies you'de expect it to get a little off topic...
Banzai
May 29 2004, 10:44
Thank god this thread was moved it was coastally at the top of the xp one.
Tekmaven
May 29 2004, 10:49
Okay, few more hours of work done, and here is another shot. I'm still going to be playing with the UI a bit more: the "Summary" section is incomplete, and the "Power Status" may become something else (I have a Status Control Sidebar already).
The GUI uses XML based config files to store the data, and when the user is ready to run PearPC, it creates a PearPC config file. I'm calling the XML file, ppcml (PearPC Markup Language)
. When you go File -> Open, and open another config file, it gets a second tab with that virtual machine.
I'll keep working ;-).
Wow! Really nice!
What language are you using?
aka JAWheat411
May 29 2004, 14:40
Quote - (Tekmaven @ May 29 2004, 05:49)
Okay, few more hours of work done, and here is another shot. I'm still going to be playing with the UI a bit more: the "Summary" section is incomplete, and the "Power Status" may become something else (I have a Status Control Sidebar already).
The GUI uses XML based config files to store the data, and when the user is ready to run PearPC, it creates a PearPC config file. I'm calling the XML file, ppcml (PearPC Markup Language)
. When you go File -> Open, and open another config file, it gets a second tab with that virtual machine.
I'll keep working ;-).
Yeah killer.
Looks like it has alot more potential than all the other PearPC GUI's.
Tekmaven
May 29 2004, 14:45
Okay, last screenie for a few hours.
aka JAWheat411
May 29 2004, 18:52
For those of you having trouble with networking.
Check out this guide.
http://dev.realistanew.com/win32net/Seems to work good
wivelden
May 29 2004, 20:31
Already posted a few pages back.
silentprey04
May 29 2004, 20:46
Liquid... you're guide doesn't work. I just tried it and when I launch the bat file it just flashes a dos box and disappears.
aka JAWheat411
May 29 2004, 20:57
Quote - (Moe Szyslak @ May 29 2004, 15:31)
Already posted a few pages back.
Sorry
At this point.......it is very hard to keep up
Datalore
May 29 2004, 23:05
Excellent work, Tekmaven! I can't wait to see future progress on your GUI. It's the best out there, and I think it's worthy of being the official GUI.
silentprey04
May 29 2004, 23:23
Can someone explain what the redraw does. Im using the latest nightly build. Its config has 40 as the default redraw. A friend of mine told me to set it to 200. That seems like a big difference! What does it do?
JadeWolf324
May 29 2004, 23:53
i followed Emons guide and im stuck with a "there are no bootlable partitons" thing. any ideas?
CODE
# PearPC Configuration File
#
# Resolution
#
# 0: 640x480x8 (indexed)
# 1: 640x480x15
# 2: 640x480x32
# 3: 800x600x8 (indexed)
# 4: 800x600x15
# 5: 800x600x32
# 6: 1024x768x8 (indexed)
# 7: 1024x768x15
# 8: 1024x768x32
#
# The indexed modes are unsupported.
#
# default: 4
ppc_start_resolution = 8
#
# Redraw interval (in ms)
# must be between 1 and 999
#
# If you set this higher, PearPC will spend less time doing redraws (and so run faster)
# but feel less responsive. You should adjust this to your computer speed and personal
# preference.
#
redraw_interval_msec = 100
#
# Loader
#
#
# Boot method
# this can be
# 1. "auto", prom will boot the first bootable partition found (default)
# 2. "select", prom will show you a list of bootable partitions
# 3. "force", prom will load and boot the local file prom_loadfile
#
prom_bootmethod = "auto"
# Example of how to use "force":
#prom_bootmethod = "force"
#prom_loadfile = "test/yaboot"
#prom_env_bootpath = "disk"
#
# bootargs: don't change unless you know what you are doing
# machargs: set to "-v" to get a verbose startup
#
prom_env_machargs = ""
#
# This is needed if you want to boot Mac OS X
#
prom_driver_graphic = "video.x"
# This will adjust the position of the initial page table (don't change)
#page_table_pa = 104857600
#
# CPU Config
#
# Processor Version Register
# Defaults to 0x00088302
# Only change if you know want you are doing
#
#cpu_pvr = 0x00088302
#
# Main memory (default 128 MiB)
# must be >= 64 MiB
#
memory_size=0x10000000
#
# IO Devices
#
#
# PCI IDE Config
#
# Drive type will be set according to file extension:
# .img: Harddisk (filesize must be multiple of 516096)
# .iso: CD-Rom
# Or you can override this by specifying the type via
# pci_ide0_master_type / pci_ide0_slave_type
pci_ide0_master_installed = 1
pci_ide0_master_image = "C:\pearpc\HD-OS-X-Panther-PREP.img"
pci_ide0_master_type = "hd"
pci_ide0_slave_installed = 1
pci_ide0_slave_image = "C:\pearpc\OSX_CD1.iso"
pci_ide0_slave_type = "cdrom"
#
# Network (unavailable on windows)
#
pci_3c90x_installed = 0
pci_3c90x_mac = "de:ad:ca:fe:12:34"
#
# USB
#
pci_usb_installed = 1
#
# NVRAM
#
nvram_file = "nvram"
Litespeed
May 30 2004, 00:18
Quote - (Tekmaven @ May 29 2004, 22:49)
Okay, few more hours of work done, and here is another shot. I'm still going to be playing with the UI a bit more: the "Summary" section is incomplete, and the "Power Status" may become something else (I have a Status Control Sidebar already).
The GUI uses XML based config files to store the data, and when the user is ready to run PearPC, it creates a PearPC config file. I'm calling the XML file, ppcml (PearPC Markup Language)
. When you go File -> Open, and open another config file, it gets a second tab with that virtual machine.
I'll keep working ;-).
<cough VMware </cough>
ThunderRiver
May 30 2004, 00:27
I have always been wondering why people here try to install OS X soo badly.. How come I haven't seen anyone tried to install OS 9?
aka JAWheat411
May 30 2004, 00:31
Quote - (ThunderRiver @ May 29 2004, 19:27)
I have always been wondering why people here try to install OS X soo badly.. How come I haven't seen anyone tried to install OS 9?
Well PearPC doesn't really work with OS 9. It is made for OS X.
Post-It Note
May 30 2004, 00:32
I left a secret message in the picture. Find it and win (nothing)!
Quote - (Post-It Note @ May 29 2004, 16:32)
I left a secret message in the picture. Find it and win (nothing)!
how long did windows take to install inside pearpc?
aka JAWheat411
May 30 2004, 00:35
Quote - (JadeWolf324 @ May 29 2004, 18:05)
i followed Emons guide and im stuck with a "there are no bootlable partitons" thing. any ideas?
Two things I seen iun your config that might make a difference.
I got this right here in mine
this for the boot method so I can select the right drive
Quote -
# Boot method
# this can be
# 1. auto, prom will boot the first bootable partition found (default)
# 2. select, prom will show you a list of bootable partitions
# 3. force, prom will load and boot the local file prom_loadfile
#
prom_bootmethod = "select"
# Example of how to use force:
#prom_bootmethod = "force"
#prom_loadfile = "test/yaboot"
#prom_env_bootpath = "disk"
and this right below it
Quote -
# bootargs: don't change unless you know what you are doing
# machargs: set to "-v" to get a verbose startup
#
#prom_env_bootargs = ""
#prom_env_machargs = "-v"
prom_env_machargs = ""
JadeWolf324
May 30 2004, 01:15
what should i be selecting?
JadeWolf324
May 30 2004, 01:18
Quote - (ThunderRiver @ May 29 2004, 17:27)
I have always been wondering why people here try to install OS X soo badly.. How come I haven't seen anyone tried to install OS 9?
because thats already been perfected...a while ago..
aka JAWheat411
May 30 2004, 01:31
Quote - (JadeWolf324 @ May 29 2004, 20:15)
what should i be selecting?
Well on mine it is
Quote -
2. Partition 2 of 'disk0' (Apple_HFS_Untitled_2/Apple_HFS)
Maybe the same in yours or something close.
JadeWolf324
May 30 2004, 01:34
Quote - (aka JAWheat411 @ May 29 2004, 18:31)
Well on mine it is
Maybe the same in yours or something close.
it says that partiton is not bootable...
aka JAWheat411
May 30 2004, 01:37
Follow this guide
This is what I did to make the partition bootable
Just scroll down to where it is relevant
http://www.emaculation.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=1102
JadeWolf324
May 30 2004, 02:09
could it be because im using version 1.2?
Tekmaven
May 30 2004, 02:23
Quote - (Rudy @ May 29 2004, 19:34)
how long did windows take to install inside pearpc?
I don't think he installed Windows. Rather, he's Remote Deskop'ing In.
Tekmaven
May 30 2004, 03:53
It's now running well. I'm going to be writing some wizards, and other things to make this app "user friendly". My goal: a 4 year old should be able to use PearPC. The ugly dos console with the debug information is now in the "Session Log" area of the VM's page. I currently can't embed the PearPC GUI window in my application due to the way PearPC works :-P (I'm going to send the dev's an email, hopefully we can work on this).
Here is the latest screenie, and I'm also going to put this on the PearPC Developer's Wiki.
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