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Cyman

Jun 3 2004, 13:57

Woohoo!

I got it working! I changed some values in the config file and now it works!

Actually I set the boot method to "auto", then I played around with my slave drive files (I enabled the OS X Install CD1) and enabled the Realtek network adapter.
Then, suddenly it worked. It must be a miracle!

But I got another question regarding PearPC:
Can you adjust the RAM to 768MB RAM and what is the hex equivalent to 768?

aka JAWheat411

Jun 3 2004, 14:02

Quote - (Cyman @ Jun 3 2004, 08:57)

Woohoo!

I got it working! I changed some values in the config file and now it works!

Actually I set the boot method to "auto", then I played around with my slave drive files (I enabled the OS X Install CD1) and enabled the Realtek network adapter.
Then, suddenly it worked. It must be a miracle!

But I got another question regarding PearPC:
Can you adjust the RAM to 768MB RAM and what is the hex equivalent to 768?

Hopefully I helped lol

ChiLam

Jun 3 2004, 20:18

Quote - (klop @ Jun 3 2004, 01:20)

Im using the new SDL version and my keyboard is always on capslock... How can I fix this?

Try Shift+F9

If im not wrong

ChiLam

Jun 3 2004, 20:21

WoW !! This is my first post

<-(registered user since Nov 2002)

krmathis

Jun 3 2004, 20:31

Quote - (ChiLam @ Jun 3 2004, 22:21)

WoW !! This is my first post

<-(registered user since Nov 2002)

About time!

fishie

Jun 3 2004, 20:39

Quote -

Where the hell did you all get panther from, dont tell me you paid £100 for it from the apple shop.....

hell my discs were scratched up / lost, i orderd 9.2, 10.2, 10.3 from school for free

Emon

Jun 3 2004, 22:55

Quote - (Cyman @ Jun 3 2004, 07:57)

Woohoo!

I got it working! I changed some values in the config file and now it works!

Actually I set the boot method to "auto", then I played around with my slave drive files (I enabled the OS X Install CD1) and enabled the Realtek network adapter.
Then, suddenly it worked. It must be a miracle!

But I got another question regarding PearPC:
Can you adjust the RAM to 768MB RAM and what is the hex equivalent to 768?

there ya go ..

http://www.neowin.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=167708

768(Dec) = 300(Hex)
So to get 768 megs of RAM you have to type -> memory_size=0x30000000

phalanx126

Jun 4 2004, 02:16

hmm, stiil trying to get ppc-sdl to work, still failing. when i open the stdout file in my pearpc directory, i get the following message:

[IO/IDE] <Error> macosx_6gb_unjournaled.img: could not open file (No error)

any ideas? suggestions?

again, here's my config:

#ppc_start_resolution = 4
#fs_refresh_rate = 60
redraw_interval_msec = 40
prom_bootmethod = "select"
prom_env_bootargs = ""
prom_env_machargs = ""
#prom_driver_graphic = "video.x"
memory_size=0x10000000
pci_ide0_master_installed = 1
pci_ide0_master_image = "macosx_6gb_unjournaled.img"
pci_ide0_master_type = "hd"
pci_ide0_slave_installed = 1
pci_ide0_slave_image = "macosx.iso"
pci_ide0_slave_type = "cdrom"
pci_rtl8139_installed = 1
pci_rtl8139_mac = "de:ad:ca:fe:12:34"
pci_usb_installed = 1
nvram_file = "nvram"

santiagomedinasaenz

Jun 4 2004, 03:08

Guys do u have any idea of why is these hapeninig?

Look at the pic

CHECK OUT THE SCREENSHOOT

and that was like 2 minuts ago, now it is remaining 39 hours and 26 minuts.

Any aideas?

nuka_t

Jun 4 2004, 03:11

ya. its because you are not allowed to hotlink images from their site. upload your pics to neowin instead.

Tekmaven

Jun 4 2004, 03:20

Okay, Beta 1 Release 2 is hot off the compiler.

Quote -

- Added a Tray Icon, and PearPCFront now minimizes to the system tray
- Changed the way configuration files are generated. Instead of generating PearPC configuration files on the fly, PearPCFront now reads a template file in [InstallDir]\template.ppcfg. This way, you can change the way PearPCFront generates your configuration if a new feature is added and I don't release a new build quick enough :-).
- Added an "SDL" option. Since the SDL build uses text files for output (instead of outputting directly to the console), the method in which I read the output needs to change. Settings SDL to True will make the Session Log show the appropriate information.
- Added the resolution choice "Not Specified". In the SDL Build, when a resolution isn't specified, you can change resolutions on the fly :-).
- Properly associated ".ppcml" PearPCFront configuration files to PearPCFront! (Wow, InstallShield made that complicated..)
- The 'Hard Disk Creation Wizard' now works :-). Sorry about the error in the last build.
- In addition to fixing the Disk Creation, the Disk Creation no longer writes 0's on the entire image.
- 'video.x' error's have been corrected.
- "File -> Exit" now works (whoops :-P)
- "File -> Save As" now updates the file location line on the Virtual Machine page.
- Probably more fixes, but my memory is just as good as 10 year old fast page memory modules ;-).

View: Homepage
Download: Here

Screenshot below:

ForeverUnknown

Jun 4 2004, 03:24

nice tek!

testing it now

Tekmaven

Jun 4 2004, 03:28

Bedtime.. Post comments and bugs and I'll get back to you guys in the mornin ;-)

Maybe Neowin can post something in the Software Releases forum? I think it would be good for the popularity of PearPC.

aka JAWheat411

Jun 4 2004, 03:35

Quote - (Tekmaven @ Jun 3 2004, 22:20)

Okay, Beta 1 Release 2 is hot off the compiler.

View: Homepage
Download: Here

Screenshot below:

Thanks Tekmaven,
been waiting on this one.

nuka_t

Jun 4 2004, 03:36

w00t

nuka_t

Jun 4 2004, 03:40

im trying to make a disk image using^ and its stuck at the begining. anyone else?

Edit:doh, the bug still stands however, the status bar does not move. however, i just noticed that the text changed to "finished" instead of "creating"

bugzz

Jun 4 2004, 03:58

Quote - (Tekmaven @ Jun 4 2004, 03:20)

Okay, Beta 1 Release 2 is hot off the compiler.

View: Homepage
Download: Here

Screenshot below:

thx, downloading for test

phalanx126

Jun 4 2004, 04:05

fixed the problem, my tap32 drivers were out of date

klop

Jun 4 2004, 04:18

Wow! Youre doing awesome work Tekmaven!

niteowl

Jun 4 2004, 04:50

Wow, PearPC has come a long ways so far.

Keep up the great work everyone!!

Pixelwix

Jun 4 2004, 04:59

CODE

<?xml version="1.0"?>
<PearPCProperties xmlns:xsd="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema" xmlns:xsi="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance" xmlns="http://www.tekmaven.nu/PearPCFront">
<Name>Untitled PearPC Configuration</Name>
<BootMethod>Select</BootMethod>
<Resolution>640x480x15</Resolution>
<RefreshRate>30</RefreshRate>
<RedrawInterval>60</RedrawInterval>
<GraphicDriver>video.x</GraphicDriver>
<MemorySize>256</MemorySize>
<IDEMasterType>Hard Disk</IDEMasterType>
<IDEMasterImage>C:\osx\osx.img</IDEMasterImage>
<IDESlaveType>CD-Rom</IDESlaveType>
<IDESlaveImage>C:\Panther.iso</IDESlaveImage>
<NVRamFile>nvram</NVRamFile>
</PearPCProperties>

whats wrong with this settings cus its not working?

Fozzieb

Jun 4 2004, 08:23

I think this thread should be split in to a group, there are so many topics in here it is hard to keep track of what is going on.

HellBender

Jun 4 2004, 08:33

We need an entire forum dedicated to this

MothBox

Jun 4 2004, 08:36

I'm gonna give this a look into after my exams, try and get my hands on some Panther CDs in the mean time.

ArnoldRoelz

Jun 4 2004, 08:38

Quote - (phalanx126 @ Jun 4 2004, 02:16)

hmm, stiil trying to get ppc-sdl to work, still failing. when i open the stdout file in my pearpc directory, i get the following message:

[IO/IDE] <Error> macosx_6gb_unjournaled.img: could not open file (No error)

any ideas? suggestions?

again, here's my config:

#ppc_start_resolution = 4
#fs_refresh_rate = 60
redraw_interval_msec = 40
prom_bootmethod = "select"
prom_env_bootargs = ""
prom_env_machargs = ""
#prom_driver_graphic = "video.x"
memory_size=0x10000000
pci_ide0_master_installed = 1
pci_ide0_master_image = "macosx_6gb_unjournaled.img"
pci_ide0_master_type = "hd"
pci_ide0_slave_installed = 1
pci_ide0_slave_image = "macosx.iso"
pci_ide0_slave_type = "cdrom"
pci_rtl8139_installed = 1
pci_rtl8139_mac = "de:ad:ca:fe:12:34"
pci_usb_installed = 1
nvram_file = "nvram"

This error just simple indicates that the path to your .img file is not correct..

Tekmaven

Jun 4 2004, 10:03

Quote - (Pixelwix @ Jun 3 2004, 23:59)

CODE

<?xml version="1.0"?>
<PearPCProperties xmlns:xsd="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema" xmlns:xsi="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance" xmlns="http://www.tekmaven.nu/PearPCFront">
<Name>Untitled PearPC Configuration</Name>
<BootMethod>Select</BootMethod>
<Resolution>640x480x15</Resolution>
<RefreshRate>30</RefreshRate>
<RedrawInterval>60</RedrawInterval>
<GraphicDriver>video.x</GraphicDriver>
<MemorySize>256</MemorySize>
<IDEMasterType>Hard Disk</IDEMasterType>
<IDEMasterImage>C:\osx\osx.img</IDEMasterImage>
<IDESlaveType>CD-Rom</IDESlaveType>
<IDESlaveImage>C:\Panther.iso</IDESlaveImage>
<NVRamFile>nvram</NVRamFile>
</PearPCProperties>

whats wrong with this settings cus its not working?

I'm not sure...? What's the error?

gamestargrinder

Jun 4 2004, 11:40

this thread and pearpc development seems to have slowed way down/ have been very quiet

Emon

Jun 4 2004, 12:50

Quote - (Fozzieb @ Jun 4 2004, 02:23)

I think this thread should be split in to a group, there are so many topics in here it is hard to keep track of what is going on.

well we kinda have groups .. like my help doc thread at essential guides section.

Fozzieb

Jun 4 2004, 15:07

That's true. but people still keep asking the same questions time and time again, because they can't be bothered reading 166 pages of posts

jedavis1

Jun 4 2004, 15:14

I posted this on Neowin's thread about PearPC, but with 160+ pgs of information, it tends to get lost, so I thought I would post it here also. Sorry for those who have to read it both places! :lol:

It didn't seem like anyone has done a comprehensive comparison between the nightly builds and the SDL version, so I did some testing/benchmarking and here are the results:

My system specs:

Custom built P4 2.53 GHz
Asus P4B533 mobo
512 RAM
32MB nVidia GeForce2 MX 200
Windows XP Professional SP1
WD 80 GB HD SE with 8mb buffer
Networking: T1 with FreeProxy bound to the TAP win32 driver (I find this faster than tunneling)

PearPC Specs:

SDL.0003 with RAM set to 256MB and networking enabled. Screen set at 800x600 window
Nightly Build 6-3-04 with RAM set to 256MB and Networking enabled. Screen set at 800x600 window with 60ms redraw.

I was surprised that there really isn't much speed difference between the two. The SDL version seems faster because the video is smoother. But practically it isn't. I may or may not run some more test with the nightly build adjusting the redraw rate.

I think this is enough to give you the factors. So here is the chart!

aka JAWheat411

Jun 4 2004, 15:19

Quote - (Tekmaven @ Jun 3 2004, 22:20)

Okay, Beta 1 Release 2 is hot off the compiler.

View: Homepage
Download: Here

Screenshot below:

Does PearPCFront do anything related to your network? Just curious because after installing it I had to go to Network in OS X and refresh my PCI card thing. It wasn't a problem or anything. The internet worked right away. I just thought it was weird. Did this on both pc's I had it running on.

niteowl

Jun 4 2004, 17:00

Quote - (jedavis1 @ Jun 4 2004, 15:14)

I posted this on Neowin's thread about PearPC, but with 160+ pgs of information, it tends to get lost, so I thought I would post it here also. Sorry for those who have to read it both places! :lol:

It didn't seem like anyone has done a comprehensive comparison between the nightly builds and the SDL version, so I did some testing/benchmarking and here are the results:

My system specs:

Custom built P4 2.53 GHz
Asus P4B533 mobo
512 RAM
32MB nVidia GeForce2 MX 200
Windows XP Professional SP1
WD 80 GB HD SE with 8mb buffer
Networking: T1 with FreeProxy bound to the TAP win32 driver (I find this faster than tunneling)

PearPC Specs:

SDL.0003 with RAM set to 256MB and networking enabled. Screen set at 800x600 window
Nightly Build 6-3-04 with RAM set to 256MB and Networking enabled. Screen set at 800x600 window with 60ms redraw.

I was surprised that there really isn't much speed difference between the two. The SDL version seems faster because the video is smoother. But practically it isn't. I may or may not run some more test with the nightly build adjusting the redraw rate.

I think this is enough to give you the factors. So here is the chart!

Thanks.

That's a helpful chart. Benchmarking the different builds was a good idea

I need Zoloft

Jun 4 2004, 17:12

Any else think yes,we will finally get some of those non convertable icons on windows now?

jdkramar

Jun 4 2004, 17:15

Quote - (I need Zoloft @ Jun 4 2004, 17:12)

Any else think yes,we will finally get some of those non convertable icons on windows now?

the icons are convertable...

I need Zoloft

Jun 4 2004, 17:18

I dont mean the ones packaged in .sit files.I know how to convert those.I mean the ones like Icontainer files and the ones in .dmg format.I love how people allways assume they know what your talking about.

Tekmaven

Jun 4 2004, 18:53

Quote - (aka JAWheat411 @ Jun 4 2004, 10:19)

Does PearPCFront do anything related to your network? Just curious because after installing it I had to go to Network in OS X and refresh my PCI card thing. It wasn't a problem or anything. The internet worked right away. I just thought it was weird. Did this on both pc's I had it running on.

You probably used the default MAC address, which was different from the MAC Address that *was* in your config file.

jdkramar

Jun 4 2004, 19:06

Quote - (I need Zoloft @ Jun 4 2004, 17:18)

I dont mean the ones packaged in .sit files.I know how to convert those.I mean the ones like Icontainer files and the ones in .dmg format.I love how people allways assume they know what your talking about.

how do you know I didn't know what you were talking about? I can get an icon from whatever Mac file I want and use it on a Win machine.

I need Zoloft

Jun 4 2004, 20:06

Quote - (jdkramar @ Jun 4 2004, 19:06)

how do you know I didn't know what you were talking about? I can get an icon from whatever Mac file I want and use it on a Win machine.

Meaning all you get are sit files or tell me how to convert dmg to a usable format.Also i do know you didnt know what i was talking about because of your stupid comments.

jdkramar

Jun 4 2004, 20:48

Quote - (I need Zoloft @ Jun 4 2004, 20:06)

Meaning all you get are sit files or tell me how to convert dmg to a usable format.Also i do know you didnt know what i was talking about because of your stupid comments.

Why didn't you say formats instead of icons? Last time I checked icons have nothing to do with the format of a file. So really the problem is your lack of computer terminology knowledge.

I need Zoloft

Jun 4 2004, 20:55

Quote - (jdkramar @ Jun 4 2004, 20:48)

Why didn't you say formats instead of icons? Last time I checked icons have nothing to do with the format of a file. So really the problem is your lack of computer terminology knowledge.

The icons come in the dmg file.Its a mac format.And i said i was talking about file formats in my second and third post,maybe you should learn to read.

jdkramar

Jun 4 2004, 21:13

Quote - (I need Zoloft @ Jun 4 2004, 20:55)

The icons come in the dmg file.Its a mac format.And i said i was talking about file formats in my second and third post,maybe you should learn to read.

Why don't you learn to write?

Here is your post.

Quote -

Any else think yes,we will finally get some of those non convertable icons on windows now?

It would have been a lot clearer if you wrote it more like this.

Is anyone else thinking that we will finally get to use some of those icons from (where ever you get them) that come in .dmg formated images?

But lets not turn this into an English lesson and get this topic locked by the Mods.

eaglebtc

Jun 4 2004, 21:13

Why doesn't PearGUI work for me? When I click "Run PearPC" the dos box appears, flashes "usage: ppc configfie" and then quits.

PearGUI.exe is in the same folder as my PearPC installation, and it is pointing to the correct IMG and ISO files. Is PearGUI expecting my config file to be a certain name? Either that, or it's not passing its own files correctly to the command interpreter.

And another thing...how does it enable right-click functionality in pearPC?

I need Zoloft

Jun 4 2004, 21:20

Quote - (jdkramar @ Jun 4 2004, 21:13)

Why don't you learn to write?

Here is your post.

It would have been a lot clearer if you wrote it more like this.

Is anyone else thinking that we will finally get to use some of those icons from (where ever you get them) that come in .dmg formated images?

But lets not turn this into an English lesson and get this topic locked by the Mods.

You should have picked up what i said on my second and third post.Nonetheless you should have asked what i meant before you tryed to show off on this board.Your the only one turning this into a english lesson.

jdkramar

Jun 4 2004, 21:31

Quote - (I need Zoloft @ Jun 4 2004, 21:20)

You should have picked up what i said on my second and third post.Nonetheless you should have asked what i meant before you tryed to show off on this board.Your the only one turning this into a english lesson.

If you want me to, I can pick at your other posts. But instead how about I say I should have asked you to clarify what you meant. And you admit that your post was clear as mud.

xplatinum

Jun 4 2004, 21:32

/me votes for you two to take the argueing in PMs.

I need Zoloft

Jun 4 2004, 21:40

So you go off,when you should have ask me about my post and then because you didnt understand the post in the first place im the jerk.That tells me thiers no need to talk any longer.You just want to fight about this.Im sorry if my post wasent clear enuff for you.Next time ask,dont flame.

jedavis1

Jun 4 2004, 22:20

Quote - (eaglebtc @ Jun 4 2004, 21:13)

Why doesn't PearGUI work for me? When I click "Run PearPC" the dos box appears, flashes "usage: ppc configfie" and then quits.

PearGUI.exe is in the same folder as my PearPC installation, and it is pointing to the correct IMG and ISO files. Is PearGUI expecting my config file to be a certain name? Either that, or it's not passing its own files correctly to the command interpreter.

And another thing...how does it enable right-click functionality in pearPC?

Make sure that you save the config file. Also, make sure that you don't have a setting checked that isn't supported by your version of PPC (Right click option isn't enabled on the current standard versions, so don't check that) and things like that. PearGUI is my favorite front end right now. Simple and effective!

JeremyWeisser

Jun 4 2004, 22:43

Here is a fleeting thought that I will throw out to you all.

Can you imagine how slow Windows XP would be running inside Virtual PC for Mac?

Steve

Jun 4 2004, 22:47

Quote - (JeremyWeisser @ Jun 4 2004, 23:43)

Here is a fleeting thought that I will throw out to you all.

Can you imagine how slow Windows XP would be running inside Virtual PC for Mac?

Virtual PC running Windows XP wouldn't be as slow as running Mac OS X on PearPC IMO...

syphern

Jun 4 2004, 22:54

LOL @ the two guys who are fighting.