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klop

Jun 22 2004, 18:58

Quote - (Tekmaven @ Jun 22 2004, 08:44)

On a more 'PearPC' related front, here's a development update.

For the last few days, CVS was being reorganized (and thus no one could make any new additions). That is complete; SDL is now in CVS, however the mouse is screwed up. There has been talk of adding the 'suspend' feature, dual emulated processors (for smp machines), and writing an AGP driver for OS X on the PearPC mailing list over the last few days ;-).

Hopefully soon we'll start getting compiling + functional builds out of CVS again :-).

Wow thats freat news!

sweetfish

Jun 24 2004, 14:57

Could someone please rehost an "old" working 0.3pre nightly-build? I can't get ahold of any...

santiagomedinasaenz

Jun 26 2004, 00:47

Any Idea about these screenshot i found on the net?

TwiztedCam

Jun 26 2004, 00:52

Quote - (santiagomedinasaenz @ Jun 25 2004, 18:47)

Any Idea about these screenshot i found on the net?

It could be fake, and why I believe that is because the image is so horribly stretched (the "OSX" image that's being 'emulated'.)

santiagomedinasaenz

Jun 26 2004, 00:56

Hey do you have the SDL?

phalanx126

Jun 26 2004, 05:57

santiago, i think it's a fake...it says it's emulating 10.3, but if you look at the menu's the windows have tabs, which panther doesn't have. panther has the little pill thingies instead.

santiagomedinasaenz

Jun 26 2004, 06:25

Hey guys could you help me out, I really need the 0.3 pre ppc.exe ,could someone giveme a tip to get it or send it to my mail? Up to 10mb Yahoo. Santiagomedinasaenz@yahoo.com.ar
Look what happens when i use the 0.2

#PearPC Configuration File

ppc_start_resolution=2
redraw_interval_msec=40
prom_driver_graphic = "video.x"
cpu_pvr=0x00088302
memory_size=0x10000000
prom_bootmethod="select"
prom_env_machargs=""
pci_ide0_master_installed=1
pci_ide0_master_image="macosx_6gb.img"
pci_ide0_master_type="hd"
pci_ide0_slave_installed=1
pci_ide0_slave_image="OSX2.iso"
pci_ide0_slave_type="cdrom"
pci_rtl8139_installed=1
pci_rtl8139_mac="de:ad:ca:fe:12:34"
pci_usb_installed=1
nvram_file="nvram"

I allready installed the first cd, now i can't even run os x panthere i don't know whats wrong, and befor i used to run everything even CDs in 0.3 pre
any help?

nuka_t

Jun 26 2004, 06:30

Quote - (santiagomedinasaenz @ Jun 26 2004, 06:25)

Hey guys could you help me out, I really need the 0.3 pre ppc.exe ,could someone giveme a tip to get it or send it to my mail? Up to 10mb Yahoo. Santiagomedinasaenz@yahoo.com.ar
Look what happens when i use the 0.2

#PearPC Configuration File

ppc_start_resolution=2
redraw_interval_msec=40
prom_driver_graphic = "video.x"
cpu_pvr=0x00088302
memory_size=0x10000000
prom_bootmethod="select"
prom_env_machargs=""
pci_ide0_master_installed=1
pci_ide0_master_image="macosx_6gb.img"
pci_ide0_master_type="hd"
pci_ide0_slave_installed=1
pci_ide0_slave_image="OSX2.iso"
pci_ide0_slave_type="cdrom"
pci_rtl8139_installed=1
pci_rtl8139_mac="de:ad:ca:fe:12:34"
pci_usb_installed=1
nvram_file="nvram"

I allready installed the first cd, now i can't even run os x panthere i don't know whats wrong, and befor i used to run everything even CDs in 0.3 pre
any help?

nice wall. do you have a link? or should i just rip it?

nuka_t

Jun 26 2004, 06:31

Quote - (santiagomedinasaenz @ Jun 26 2004, 00:47)

Any Idea about these screenshot i found on the net?

bull****. there is no mouse cursor in the dock.

Suren

Jun 26 2004, 06:36

where can I get MAC OS X 10.3
plz send me a link
to my PM

Redestium

Jun 26 2004, 06:38

Quote - (Suren @ Jun 26 2004, 02:36)

where can I get MAC OS X 10.3
plz send me a link
to my PM

Read the rules.

santiagomedinasaenz

Jun 26 2004, 07:25

ANy idea? Or help or tip or somethin?

Sheeew

Jun 26 2004, 10:09

Hi there, i got a couple of problems since last 0.3 pre,
At first, when i launch ppc with the keycompose option, it loads and stop for about 2/3sec and the dos console says [IO/PROM] <Error> currently b0rken in promboot.cc line 1012

But that's ok if i comment the line with a #.

After that when my ppc load successfuly, my mouse get very very slooow to finally crash with the dos msg : [IO/CUDA] <Warning> left: 5

What does it mean ?
Is that a wellknown problem or what ?

Here's my config file (i use the athlon optimised version)

Quote -

ppc_start_resolution = "1280x768x32"
redraw_interval_msec = 40
key_compose = "F11"
key_change_cd_0 = "none"
key_toggle_mouse_grab = "F12"
key_toggle_full_screen = "Alt+Return"
prom_bootmethod = "auto"
prom_env_machargs = "-v"
prom_driver_graphic = "video.x"
cpu_pvr = 0x00088302
memory_size=0x20000000
pci_ide0_master_installed = 1
pci_ide0_master_image = "PantherImage.img"
pci_ide0_master_type = "hd"
pci_ide0_slave_installed = 0
pci_ide0_slave_image = "/dev/cdrom"
pci_ide0_slave_type = "cdrom"
pci_rtl8139_installed = 1
pci_rtl8139_mac = "de:ad:ca:fe:12:35"
pci_usb_installed = 1
nvram_file = "nvram"

Thank you guyz hope you'll find something

ps: forgot to say it doesnt boot if the prom bootmethod is on select

krmathis

Jun 26 2004, 10:41

Quote - (Suren @ Jun 26 2004, 08:36)

where can I get MAC OS X 10.3

Get Mac OS X 10.3 here!

eaglebtc

Jun 26 2004, 12:09

Quote - (Suren @ Jun 25 2004, 23:36)

where can I get MAC OS X 10.3
plz send me a link
to my PM

Welcome to the Internet.

Enjoy your stay. It won't last long.

eaglebtc

Jun 26 2004, 12:12

Quote - (Sheeew @ Jun 26 2004, 03:09)

Hi there, i got a couple of problems since last 0.3 pre,
At first, when i launch ppc with the keycompose option, it loads and stop for about 2/3sec and the dos console says [IO/PROM] <Error> currently b0rken in promboot.cc line 1012

But that's ok if i comment the line with a #.

After that when my ppc load successfuly, my mouse get very very slooow to finally crash with the dos msg : [IO/CUDA] <Warning> left: 5

What does it mean ?
Is that a wellknown problem or what ?

Here's my config file (i use the athlon optimised version)

Thank you guyz hope you'll find something

ps: forgot to say it doesnt boot if the prom bootmethod is on select

I learned something from another very popular forum on the Internet.

1) Read the entire thread before posting. Despite what your kindergarten teacher said, you are not special. Your problem is not unique, and has probably been answered seven ways from Sunday.

2) You should not ask questions until you have a reasonably high post count, or you have been on the forums for more than one nanosecond.

3) LURK MORE.

This has been a public service announcement from your local forum watchdog. Have a nice Internet.

Sheeew

Jun 26 2004, 13:48

Quote - (eaglebtc @ Jun 26 2004, 12:12)

I learned something from another very popular forum on the Internet.

1) Read the entire thread before posting. Despite what your kindergarten teacher said, you are not special. Your problem is not unique, and has probably been answered seven ways from Sunday.

2) You should not ask questions until you have a reasonably high post count, or you have been on the forums for more than one nanosecond.

3) LURK MORE.

This has been a public service announcement from your local forum watchdog. Have a nice Internet.

I'm following this thread since it's beginning and registred last month so, no it has not been answered, but it's allways nice to learn a month equal a nanosecond.
For the postcount i didnt knew.
3° Lurk more ? I don't know what you mean.

By the way, thank you, you've been very helpful.

santiagomedinasaenz

Jun 26 2004, 14:40

PLease can someone please help me with my problem?

Longhorn_2004

Jun 26 2004, 14:44

Too bad its slow as hell.... Else i'd buy Panther

santiagomedinasaenz

Jun 26 2004, 16:04

PLease can someone please help me with my problem?

#PearPC Configuration File

ppc_start_resolution=2
redraw_interval_msec=40
prom_driver_graphic = "video.x"
cpu_pvr=0x00088302
memory_size=0x10000000
prom_bootmethod="select"
prom_env_machargs=""
pci_ide0_master_installed=1
pci_ide0_master_image="Disk.img"
pci_ide0_master_type="hd"
pci_ide0_slave_installed=0
pci_ide0_slave_image="OSX2.iso"
pci_ide0_slave_type="cdrom"
#pci_rtl8139_installed=0
#pci_rtl8139_mac="de:ad:ca:fe:12:34"
pci_usb_installed=1
nvram_file="nvram"

Tekmaven

Jun 26 2004, 16:21

Quote - (santiagomedinasaenz @ Jun 26 2004, 11:04)

PLease can someone please help me with my problem?

#PearPC Configuration File

ppc_start_resolution=2
redraw_interval_msec=40
prom_driver_graphic = "video.x"
cpu_pvr=0x00088302
memory_size=0x10000000
prom_bootmethod="select"
prom_env_machargs=""
pci_ide0_master_installed=1
pci_ide0_master_image="Disk.img"
pci_ide0_master_type="hd"
pci_ide0_slave_installed=0
pci_ide0_slave_image="OSX2.iso"
pci_ide0_slave_type="cdrom"
#pci_rtl8139_installed=0
#pci_rtl8139_mac="de:ad:ca:fe:12:34"
pci_usb_installed=1
nvram_file="nvram"

Has OSX ever worked on your virtual disk? I've had to reinstall OSX once already.. it was working, and then I just *couldnt* get it to boot. Try using a later CVS build, or making a new image and trying to reinstall.

Medievil

Jun 26 2004, 17:00

hi guys, never tried this

but wonna know
how slow is this? can you run os x at it, or does it take hours to boot up?
anyone has any good install tutorials
and what versions of os x work on this?

thx

santiagomedinasaenz

Jun 26 2004, 18:36

Has OSX ever worked on your virtual disk? I've had to reinstall OSX once already.. it was working, and then I just *couldnt* get it to boot. Try using a later CVS build, or making a new image and trying to reinstall.

Well it used to run when i had 0.3pre ......... but i accidentaly erased it and now nothing works, I just wish i could get the 0.3 pre.... againg but I can't get it if someone has it please send it to santiagomedinasaenz@yahoo.com.ar

thanks

sciguy007

Jun 26 2004, 18:40

Quote - (Medievil @ Jun 26 2004, 09:00)

hi guys, never tried this

but wonna know
how slow is this? can you run os x at it, or does it take hours to boot up?
anyone has any good install tutorials
and what versions of os x work on this?

thx

there are plenty of good install tutorials in this thread, although i used this one to install 10.3. pearpc was designed to run mac os x, see here. it takes a few minutes to boot up for me, and its very usable.

Sheeew

Jun 26 2004, 20:01

Quote - (Sheeew @ Jun 26 2004, 10:09)

Hi there, i got a couple of problems since last 0.3 pre,
At first, when i launch ppc with the keycompose option, it loads and stop for about 2/3sec and the dos console says [IO/PROM] <Error> currently b0rken in promboot.cc line 1012

But that's ok if i comment the line with a #.

After that when my ppc load successfuly, my mouse get very very slooow to finally crash with the dos msg : [IO/CUDA] <Warning> left: 5

What does it mean ?
Is that a wellknown problem or what ?

Here's my config file (i use the athlon optimised version)

ppc_start_resolution = "1280x768x32"
redraw_interval_msec = 40
key_compose = "F11"
key_change_cd_0 = "none"
key_toggle_mouse_grab = "F12"
key_toggle_full_screen = "Alt+Return"
prom_bootmethod = "auto"
prom_env_machargs = "-v"
prom_driver_graphic = "video.x"
cpu_pvr = 0x00088302
memory_size=0x20000000
pci_ide0_master_installed = 1
pci_ide0_master_image = "hd.img"
pci_ide0_master_type = "hd"
pci_ide0_slave_installed = 0
pci_ide0_slave_image = "/dev/cdrom"
pci_ide0_slave_type = "cdrom"
pci_rtl8139_installed = 1
pci_rtl8139_mac = "de:ad:ca:fe:12:35"
pci_usb_installed = 1
nvram_file = "nvram"

ps: it doesnt boot if the prom bootmethod is on select

Any ideas ?
It happens again with the last 0.3 pre from the 26th June

offroadaaron

Jun 27 2004, 08:40

Quote - (eaglebtc @ Jun 22 2004, 17:05)

^^^
Somebody needs a refresher course in TCP/IP Networking.

A subnet is a group of computers with similar IP addresses. All the computers on my local network, for example, are on the subnet 192.168.21.xxx . This means that I have to assign them an IP address in the range of 192.168.21.1 ~ 192.168.21.254. You cannot use 0 and 255; those are reserved for routing traffic.

A subnet mask is a mathematical expression of how many IPs you plan to give out in a particular subnet. The typical mask is 255.255.255.0. Sometimes you can set them to 255.255.255.128, or .64, or .32, etc... The full explanation is very technical and way beyond the scope of this thread.

Click here for a nitfy subnet calculator that might explain it a little better.

And Webopedia.com has a nice entry for "Subnet Mask."

As for those of you who want to change your router's LAN address, the procedure will be different for each manufacturer.

The procedure is basically this: You need to access the router's configuration page by opening your browser and pointing your browser to http://192.168.x.1, where x will be your IP address "class C." Look at your own IP address to get this number. Most routers ask for a username and password at this point. If you have no idea what to do here, try admin in either the username or password fields. Or try it in both. If that doesn't work, consult your router's manual. Next, you'll be looking for the LAN configuration. You'll want to change the LAN (not WAN) address to 192.168.Z.0, where Z some number OTHER than 0, 1, or your current LAN address.

i think i no what a subnet is somehow but it doesnt need to be used in a home situation like he has used its basically splitting the network up into segments y would u need that in you house unless u have something like 50 business computer in 1 room and another 25 in another room and u want them segmented so that information doesnt cross through the network to the other subnet unless its needed

mgleason007

Jun 27 2004, 17:15

Quote - (offroadaaron @ Jun 27 2004, 08:40)

i think i no what a subnet is somehow but it doesnt need to be used in a home situation like he has used its basically splitting the network up into segments y would u need that in you house unless u have something like 50 business computer in 1 room and another 25 in another room and u want them segmented so that information doesnt cross through the network to the other subnet unless its needed

Errrr. A subnet is a group of computers with similar IP addresses. How would you have him set up a TCP/IP network? All 4 computers here have an IP of 192.168.0.x, so they are all on the same subnet. His happen to all be on 192.168.21.x. I would imagine we both have a subnet mask of 255.255.255.0. I don't understand what you're not getting.

offroadaaron

Jun 28 2004, 02:55

i think you are talking about a totally different subject to what im talking about seeing as his ip address was 255.0.0.0 which would be a class A subnet mask

what the hell are you going on about, also how do u know he has a subnet mask of 255.255.255.0, 192.168.21.x doesnt have to be a subnet mask of 255.255.255.0. I was talking about i totally different thing and all you people are telling is some crap about what subnet marks and subnets are

i know what they are.

A subnet is a group of computers with similar IP addresses. uuumm no its a range of numbers so that a segment of computer using a certain range can see only that range of computer in that subnet!!!

gamestargrinder

Jun 28 2004, 03:11

wow i havent posted here in a while now. I wonder if i still have the most posts in this thread. This thread has slowed down a lot.

offroadaaron

Jun 28 2004, 03:12

only since u stopped posting lol

gamestargrinder

Jun 28 2004, 22:12

not really i mean the thread did jump from 1 pg to 60 in 2 days before i joined.

santiagomedinasaenz

Jun 29 2004, 23:39

Can someone help me set up my internet?

Look at these i made os x 10.2 recognize the insternet card
but how do i set it up?
I tried these set up but nothing http://dev.realistanew.com/win32net/

Look how my mac network is seted up what do i need to change?

mayamaniac

Jun 30 2004, 02:29

Quote - (santiagomedinasaenz @ Jun 29 2004, 23:39)

Can someone help me set up my internet?

Look at these i made os x 10.2 recognize the insternet card
but how do i set it up?
I tried these set up but nothing

Look how my mac network is seted up what do i need to change?

same here with OS 10.3.4, configured as the tutorial states, but no go in safari. I even tried bridging the network instead of ICS, yet it still doesn't work. The OSX DHCP seems to picked up the IP and gateway correctly, cause if I change the gateway in ICS, the OSX DHCP also change, but still I can't load any web pages in safari. Any ideas?

mgleason007

Jun 30 2004, 04:18

Quote - (santiagomedinasaenz @ Jun 29 2004, 23:39)

Can someone help me set up my internet?

Look at these i made os x 10.2 recognize the insternet card
but how do i set it up?
I tried these set up but nothing http://dev.realistanew.com/win32net/

Look how my mac network is seted up what do i need to change?

Is your router's IP really 192.168.0.64?

mayamaniac

Jun 30 2004, 04:20

internet is working now, just had to kill my firewall or add the new local network to the trusted list. Also changed this lin in the config file, but not sure you need to, its not ends with 35 instead of 34.

pci_rtl8139_mac = "de:ad:ca:fe:12:35"

wivelden

Jun 30 2004, 20:46

Anyone tried 10.4 yet?

amr_01

Jun 30 2004, 21:14

OS X 10.4 is not out yet.

Torankusu

Jun 30 2004, 21:20

hi guys!

well my problem is since i downloaded the nightly build optimized for P4 with the date of 6.28.04 (cvs build @ http://www.richardgoodwin.com/pearpc/)

1st the ppc only booted when i added a "#" to the line of "key_compose = "F11" otherwise it wont

2nd when it booted i have like half an hour waiting for the boot to the OS and this is where it get stock(1st screenshot)

and then it booted but this is waht i got besides a strange blueish color(2nd screenshot)

any resolution to this, ill be happy to accept it

sayonara!!

Torankusu

Jun 30 2004, 21:21

@nd screenshot

mgleason007

Jun 30 2004, 22:43

Yeah, the current nightlies aren't working correctly yet. I have the same exact thing you described.

PureEdit

Jun 30 2004, 22:45

Anybody get tiger working yet?

Torankusu

Jun 30 2004, 22:57

Quote - (PureEdit @ Jun 30 2004, 22:45)

Anybody get tiger working yet?

i got the mac os x 10.4 tiger dvd @ wwdc

gamestargrinder

Jul 1 2004, 11:03

i dont think pearpc was made to work with tiger yet and plus tiger requires a lot more ram and cpu than panther. So it would probably run real slow

jdkramar

Jul 1 2004, 11:31

Quote - (willvg @ Jul 1 2004, 11:03)

i dont think pearpc was made to work with tiger yet and plus tiger requires a lot more ram and cpu than panther. So it would probably run real slow

Actually all that Tiger requires that is different from Panther is a FireWire port and a DVD-drive.

http://www.appleinsider.com/article.php?id=527

mayamaniac

Jul 2 2004, 02:47

Quote - (Torankusu @ Jun 30 2004, 21:20)

1st the ppc only booted when i added a "#" to the line of "key_compose = "F11" otherwise it wont

2nd when it booted i have like half an hour waiting for the boot to the OS and this is where it get stock(1st screenshot)

and then it booted but this is waht i got besides a strange blueish color(2nd screenshot)

any resolution to this, ill be happy to accept it

sayonara!!

same here, I had to disable key compose also.
As for the blue color, use ppc_start_resolution = "800x600x32", that should take care of it.
also prom_bootmethod = "auto", seems "select" won't work im 0.3.
And lastly, disable the cdrom, someone said it stopped working in 0.3.. ;\
another bug is F12 is whacked now, cusor gets stuck in OSX. Use Ctrl-Alt-Del to get your cursor back to windows.
but good news is clock is fix and supposedly you can run at full screen and higher resolution.

Relativity_17

Jul 3 2004, 21:48

Anyone see the news?

Quote -

Yesterday evening at 23:00 one of my best friends, one of my best critics, one of the most valuable programmers of PearPC, the one who could help me in all situations, the one with whom I had the best time of my life, died after getting hit by a train.

Stefan 'steveman' Weyergraf -- Rest In Peace. We'll never forget you.

Source:
http://pearpc.sourceforge.net/

RIP

Fonze

Jul 3 2004, 21:55

Quote - (Relativity_17 @ Jul 3 2004, 17:48)

Anyone see the news?

Source:
http://pearpc.sourceforge.net/

RIP

sounds like apple hired a hitman

Relativity_17

Jul 3 2004, 22:06

A hit-train, you mean...

autodefe

Jul 3 2004, 22:07

What the hell? That's crappy news. I wonder if they'll end the project or put it on hiatus or something.

Redestium

Jul 3 2004, 22:12

Quote - (Relativity_17 @ Jul 3 2004, 17:48)

Anyone see the news?

Source:
http://pearpc.sourceforge.net/

RIP

What the hell?? What are the odds of that?!