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wacko412
so is it slow moving around in the OS ??? or just when installing and booting up
DKAngel
also once the install finnished did u need to change settings in ya config file?
and can u close the emu and boot upagain form the 6gig image?

and also has anyone figured out how to make an image larger than 6gig?
jazzman
did you install all the packages?
macman87
so apart from the desktop, what can u do with it?
Mav Phoenix
Quote - (Phillip @ May 11 2004, 02:38)
so apart from the desktop, what can u do with it?

Doubt much of anything since it's so slow at the moment, but it'll get better in time.
hotrod
Quote - (Phillip @ May 11 2004, 00:38)
so apart from the desktop, what can u do with it?

Very damn little. since there's not much you can do with OS X period except brag to your friends about how purty your desktop is and complain about not being able to run much of anything as far as usefull software. this is a complete waste of good windows resources if you ask me.
DKAngel
oh god get over ya self still alot of software the mac has that wen dont and its just handy to have the whole poin of pearpc is to emulate powerpc not osx
hotrod
Quote - (DKAngel @ May 11 2004, 00:47)
oh god get over ya self still alot of software the mac has that wen dont and its just handy to have the whole poin of pearpc is to emulate powerpc not osx

did you notice i said "usefull software"? and what's the point of emulating something that is of no use to the average user? please tell me what is someone going to accomplish with this? no matter what hardware you get OS X to run on, it's still useless unless you are a professional graphics designer.....
hoyablue
Quote - (DKAngel @ May 11 2004, 06:47)
oh god get over ya self still alot of software the mac has that wen dont and its just handy to have the whole poin of pearpc is to emulate powerpc not osx

Get over yourself and learn how to speak english.
hoyablue
Quote - (hotrod @ May 11 2004, 06:50)
did you notice i said "usefull software"? and what's the point of emulating something that is of no use to the average user? please tell me what is someone going to accomplish with this? no matter what hardware you get OS X to run on, it's still useless unless you are a professional graphics designer.....

Speak for yourself, I'm an OSX user, I'm NOT a graphics designer and I find it quite useful. Stop making hasty generalizations. Just because you don't need it, that doesn't mean everyone else doesn't.
hotrod
Quote - (nspeds @ May 11 2004, 00:55)
Speak for yourself, I'm an OSX user, I'm NOT a graphics designer and I find it quite useful. Stop making hasty generalizations. Just because you don't need it, that doesn't mean everyone else doesn't.

How do you figure anyone NEEDS OS X? or a mac period. when was the last time you bought or downloaded a piece of software only to find out that "dang, this only runs on MACS, i guess i NEED a mac!"

all i'm saying is that MAC user's are very limited as to what software they can run and what the can do with their machines. Sorry, but if you want to argue that point, you are a complete fool.
Kibirinis
*snipped* - Warez
Kibirinis
*Snipped* - Warez
Emon
Quote - (hotrod @ May 11 2004, 00:58)
How do you figure anyone NEEDS OS X? or a mac period. when was the last time you bought or downloaded a piece of software only to find out that "dang, this only runs on MACS, i guess i NEED a mac!"

all i'm saying is that MAC user's are very limited as to what software they can run and what the can do with their machines. Sorry, but if you want to argue that point, you are a complete fool.

please .. don't ruin this thread by starting a flame war.

if OS X is not your thing then DO NOT USE IT. Don't come here and say its useless.
Emon
Dude ... read the rules ..

No Warez (links) & Cracks: help, requests or posts that discuss circumvention. This includes linking to software, posting about it, and suggesting to get it.
Liquid
Quote - (hotrod @ May 10 2004, 22:43)
Very damn little. since there's not much you can do with OS X period except brag to your friends about how purty your desktop is and complain about not being able to run much of anything as far as usefull software. this is a complete waste of good windows resources if you ask me.

Go away troll realmad.gif
Mav Phoenix
Quote - (hotrod @ May 11 2004, 02:58)
...Sorry, but if you want to argue that point, you are a complete fool.

Save that for another thread. wink.gif
DKAngel
it emulates ppc christ allmight its another fricken emulator its interesting who cares get out of this damn forum if your not intrerested
darthfader
Quote - (Pixelwix @ May 11 2004, 05:55)
no didn't use darwin at all
lol about mac

G3 0mhz lol...
would P4 3.2 GHZ HT ExtremeEdition make a difference?
HoochieMamma
Quote - (darthfader @ May 11 2004, 07:28)
G3 0mhz lol...
would P4 3.2 GHZ HT ExtremeEdition make a difference?

I dont think so because it only emulates a 10 Mhz CPU
chAos972
How is everyone making the ISO image? I tried in alcohol but mdf/mds is the only format available.
Kibirinis
*snipped* - Just because it's availabled and easy to find doesn't make it "okay" to be posted.
Emon
Quote - (chAos972 @ May 11 2004, 01:44)
How is everyone making the ISO image?  I tried in alcohol but mdf/mds is the only format available.

this is what I did .. I made a RAW image of the Panther CD1 using ISObuster. Which made a .bin file for me.
Then I used Bin2Iso to convert that .bin to a .iso file.

Installing now .. 2 hours left .. looks like it will be a long night smile.gif
evn.
Quote - (hotrod @ May 11 2004, 00:58)
How do you figure anyone NEEDS OS X? or a mac period. when was the last time you bought or downloaded a piece of software only to find out that "dang, this only runs on MACS, i guess  i NEED a mac!"

Keynote
Final Cut Express
iDVD
OmniGraffle
OmniOutliner
BBEdit
Apple's Mail.app, iChat AV, Safari, iPhoto, and Garageband (though bundled with OS X).

Enigmo is a pretty fun game too - and it's only for Mac OS, though I'd hardly call that a killer application. Word, Dreamweaver, and photoshop are sufficiently different enough that I wouldn't want to use the Windows versions again but thats a matter of GUI for the most part - they're pretty close.

I could name a few applications on Windows that I would like to see on OS X (Visual Studio is beautiful), and I wouldn't mind ... that's about all I want, but I'm sure there are thousands of Windows only programs that some people just can't live without. The point is that there are applications that are not available for Windows - many are very compelling for thousands of people. There are also features in OS X that are not available in other platforms (it's color management is unmatched, and it's a nearly perfect blend of UNIX guts & sane/simple interface). Just like Windows has features that aren't available in other platforms, and applications that don't work anywhere else.

Quote -
all i'm saying is that MAC user's are very limited as to what software they can run and what the can do with their machines. Sorry, but if you want to argue that point, you are a complete fool.


9/10 times we're all using the same software. Need to write some documents, you're probably using Word. Messing with photos: Photoshop. Working with web content - the macromedia/adobe suites. Screwing about with MP3 files: iTunes (or maybe WinAmp/XMMS but you get the idea).

I guess several million people per year think that the OS X software library is big enough that it's not really that limiting.

One damn good reason for a PC user to want access to an OS X system would be to test their websites against Safari, Opera Mac, iCab, Camino, and IE5/Mac which make up an estimated 10% of the browsers on the internet. Not a majority, but it's a big enough chunk that businesses are interested (especially if your client believes the stereotype that Mac. owners are all rich trend-followers).

While there are some legality issues surrounding this whole project, I think it has a shot at doing a lot of good for the x86 and Macintosh crowds.
Emon
Just reported ya .. say bye bye to neowin for a while smile.gif
chAos972
Quote - (Emon @ May 11 2004, 17:56)
this what I did .. I made a RAW image of the Panther CD1 using ISObuster. Which made a .bin file for me.
Then I used Bin2Iso to convert that .bin to a .iso file.

Installing now .. 2 hours left .. looks like it will be a long night smile.gif

Cheers, thats the one i wanted to know. smile.gif
Liquid
Now thats smart to post ( i messed the codes up incase a mod edits his post)
Kibirinis
*Snipped*
Pilsbury
READ the rules
Emon
I know damn well how and where to find those .. and I also know how to follow rules of a community, but looks like you don't ..
So go "change" yourself then tell others to change. realmad.gif
darthfader
Quote - (HoochieMamma @ May 11 2004, 07:43)
I dont think so because it only emulates a 10 Mhz CPU

better than 0 mhz but then not cheaper than a real mac laugh.gif
Kibirinis
Take a look: ON Windows XP

OS X Panther
hoyablue
Quote - (the evn show @ May 11 2004, 07:57)
Keynote
Final Cut Express
iDVD
OmniGraffle
OmniOutliner
BBEdit
Apple's Mail.app, iChat AV, Safari, iPhoto, and Garageband (though bundled with OS X).

Enigmo is a pretty fun game too - and it's only for Mac OS, though I'd hardly call that a killer application. Word, Dreamweaver, and photoshop are sufficiently different enough that I wouldn't want to use the Windows versions again but thats a matter of GUI for the most part - they're pretty close.

I could name a few applications on Windows that I would like to see on OS X (Visual Studio is beautiful), and I wouldn't mind ... that's about all I want, but I'm sure there are thousands of Windows only programs that some people just can't live without. The point is that there are applications that are not available for Windows - many are very compelling for thousands of people. There are also features in OS X that are not available in other platforms (it's color management is unmatched, and it's a nearly perfect blend of UNIX guts & sane/simple interface). Just like Windows has features that aren't available in other platforms, and applications that don't work anywhere else.



9/10 times we're all using the same software. Need to write some documents, you're probably using Word. Messing with photos: Photoshop. Working with web content - the macromedia/adobe suites. Screwing about with MP3 files: iTunes (or maybe WinAmp/XMMS but you get the idea).

I guess several million people per year think that the OS X software library is big enough that it's not really that limiting.

One damn good reason for a PC user to want access to an OS X system would be to test their websites against Safari, Opera Mac, iCab, Camino, and IE5/Mac which make up an estimated 10% of the browsers on the internet. Not a majority, but it's a big enough chunk that businesses are interested (especially if your client believes the stereotype that Mac. owners are all rich trend-followers).

While there are some legality issues surrounding this whole project, I think it has a shot at doing a lot of good for the x86 and Macintosh crowds.

I admire your patience with this idiot.
Elite_graphix
Quote - (Pixelwix @ May 11 2004, 05:55)
no didn't use darwin at all
lol about mac

excellent work there pixelwix.. at least you got it working.. smile.gif

we just have to wait for a while before a newer improved and much more efficient version of pearpc is released.. wink.gif
HoochieMamma
So does this mean that all the threads about people asking if they can put Mac OS X on an x86 will be reopened? tongue.gif
VWW
Hmmm... i've just checked the PearPC sourceforge project page ( http://sourceforge.net/projects/pearpc/ ) and it has an Activity Percentile for last week of 0% sad.gif Does that mean nothing was done on PearPC last week?? Strange considering it was only released yesterday
Noodles_
I get to see the Apple logo on the grey screen.

But after a few seconds, I get an error:

Quote -
panic: We are hanging here...


Has anyone found a way to get past that?

BTW: You don't need to install Darwin! Just download one of the blank .img from the download page on that site and then use that.
configure
ohmy.gif

Please don't post a link to Panther ISO!
jazzman
hmm ... my second installation seemed to go well, but when I try to start ppc now, it wont recognize the hd image as bootable ... any ideas?
Kibirinis
I was wondering what could happen if we run it only on DOS? whistle.gif
Mac_Gyver
It doesnt seem to work for me no.gif .. here's what i get in the command console:

[CPU/MMU] new pagetable: sdr1 = 0x00300003
[CPU/MMU] new pagetable: sdr1 accepted
[CPU/MMU] number of pages: 2^15 pagetable_start: 0x00300000 size: 2^18
HFS+ has no backup volume header. skipping...
HFS+ has no backup volume header. skipping...
[CPU/CPU] execution started at 05601080
[CPU/OPC] <Warning> read from spr 25:31 (L2CR) not supported! (from 00080e04)
[CPU/MMU] new pagetable: sdr1 = 0x07f0000f
[CPU/MMU] new pagetable: sdr1 accepted
[CPU/MMU] number of pages: 2^17 pagetable_start: 0x07f00000 size: 2^20
[IO/GCARD] <Error> out of bounds0005c36 lr: 000abb80

Any ideas ? huh.gif
Kibirinis
I think the authors of pear pc didn't isntall the whole OS because there is no guide for "How to run OS when it's already installed" it would be stupid to install again, everytime when you want tu run OS X.
DKAngel
need to change to boot form hd in setting instead of the image
scoobydoobie
could someone tell me what the point is of emulating a mac? It's gonna be slower. It's probably not gonna be as stable. There really isn't any worthwhile software exclusive to macs. At least not so important that you would need to emulate it. I'm NOT trying to start anything.. just want to know what the big deal would be
Kibirinis
DKANGEL: You are talking about DOS to use hd instead of IMG?
DKAngel
your not emulating mac your emulating powerPC
win2k3man
well ok i have progress my self yay smile.gif
Kibirinis
is it enough to have 1st cd, or you need all 3 cd's to install?
Mac_Gyver
does anyone know how i can fix my problem ?
DKAngel
the emu was written to run on x86 machines not x86-64 =]
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