incorrect, JIT is saying just in time compiler. That is not the version number, but saying this emulator also has this feature

incorrect again, just because you can install mac os x on this system does not mean it has anything to do with mac osx or apple. this is an emulated PPC chip that IBM developed completely unrelated to apple. so apple will have no say in what happens to this. also, the IBM chip's insutrction set is open to anyone that wants it, so this allows for reverse engineering of it's insruction set.

But the user who decides to use this forOSX instead of a PPC Linux is the one violating the agreement. The situation only comes up when a user decides to use it illegaly.

i cant get my panther disk boot..
it is just saying:
HFS+ has no backup volume header. skipping...
HFS+ has no backup volume header. skipping...
[IO/PROM] <Error> can´t open boot file

People could ask the same thing to you with your pretentious--Mac love--attitude in a Windows section of the forum.

I didn't say version NUMBER.

Mike

computers can be in general used for mostly good, but there is a ton the USER can do that is illegal, but you dont see anyone trying to stop pcs from being sold :o)

Oh, you mean my responses to the ignorant statements like "there's no software for the Mac" or "hard drives don't work on the Mac" or "RAM doesn't work on the Mac" or...

Mike

This happens to me on the images I created on a Mac using a third party utility (Sorry, I ain't infront of my mac, so I can't remember the software). The ISOs aren't compatible with PearPC. I had good luck with the shareware version of Alcohol120 using the ISO wizard part.

HTH,

Well you are supposed to ignore that, the same way when someone goes into the Mac section and sees people saying inaccurate statements regarding Windows. Honestly, it’s not even worth the effort to educate these kinds of people.

Also let’s not forget how you were basically ****ting on Windows because of it’s lack of iApps (or comparable software)—which isn’t true.

Hi I have tryed this but I can not get pased this screen.
picture

It's NOT?

So you're saying that Microsoft packages up a DVD builder? A Movie Editor (Movie Maker isn't even close to the same league)? A Photo Manager? Gee....I don't have them.

MIke

Why all of a sudden has mike gone mad

Because people don't seem to understand the details of this project and why Apple WILL come down on it AND have the right to do so.

There's more to it than just emulating the PPC.

Mike

Try going into the Apple Menu->Disk Utility. See if the hard drive is seen there. If it is, partition and format it.

If not, check your config file. I had that problem when using an absolute path for the img file of the virtual hard drive.

I also tried removing the comment about the device being "hd".

Mike

i dont believe it is mike.. as soon as apple flexes their muscles pearpc can then just not promote pictures of mac os x on their site etc. they just concentrate on linux ppc etc. the fact is its not made to run os x is run to emulate ppc. i could go on about microsoft and their PC not mac license of one per PC then how can make users emulate the x86 PC and run windows.. that would surely be against the license. o well.. not worth any more time discussing i dont think

anyway who knows what apple will do.. lets not argue over software issues and other things. (not aiming this at you mike.. just any1) lets just discuss this great app and report success people have been having
it does look pretty cool having a max inside a window on windows tho..

So basically your saying they Microsoft should shut down VMware? Just because you can run Windows on it does mean it was intended to. Apple may be able to go after the people that use OSX on PearPC but not the deveolpers.

Did I mention bundling? No. MS would be in court if they did that, though Apple seems to get away with it on a number of levels (QT being a big one with its integration).

Third party software would suffice for iApps.

This is off topic though so feel free to make another thread in respect to this and I'll be happy to discuss it there.

Geez - this thread turned into another Mac vs PC (or PC vs MAC) thingy....

Uh, no, because there's nothing in the Windows license agreement that says that you have to use MS-branded hardware. DID I SAY THAT? NO.

Mike

You said:



Since I'm trying to compare apples to apples (no pun intended), I was DIRECTLY comparing what you get for FREE from OS X vs. what you get for FREE from Windows. How can you compare what you get for free on one platform vs. what you have to pay for on another? By that I might was well say "Final Cut Pro" and end the conversation right then and there.

Mike

Thanks alot Starman, I now have a disk and ill try to install it.

Your not using your brain, its not for emulating apple hardware, its for emulating PPC hardware, whats so hard to understand.

What gives, Microsoft bundles a load of software with windows, Microsoft gets sued, Microsoft has to remove said software, Apple bundles a load of software with Mac OSX, Everyone thinks the sun shines out of Apples ass, the end.

Apple doesn't integrate their apps with the OS. Is that too hard to comprehend?

Have you tried uninstalling IE lately?

Mike

God damn people, get back on topic and stop the petty bickering.

I'm headed over to my friend's house to steal his OS 10.3 CD's for a few hours. Hopefully I can make it as far as the installer like other people have. =)

Hm... OS 10.2 always gave an error, but OS 10.3 works... My original theory would seem to hold true for me, but now the question is how did other people get 10.2 to work for them... Odd indeed...

W00T! Install screen!

I'm still trying to get 10.2 to work, I haven't figured it out yet.

figured it out!

try this:

prom_env_machargs = ""

Hm... Isn't that just turning off verbose output in the command prompt? In any case, I'll have to give that a whirl later, OS 10.3 is installing right now. ; )

I did make a slight adjustment to make the process more bearable...



Smooth...

i turned it off and OS X 10.2 is installing right now

By the way, whoever made the comment about


That just means that the monitor turned off due to lack of mouse movement. I hit F12 to snag the mouse and moved it around, then the Installation CD Check jumped from 10% to 57%.

got it to work!!

well, i forever got stuck in the installer at the part where you could see your disk image, but couldn't install onto it, because there was a red exclamation mark saying you can't install onto that disk.

i am using a fat32 partition which has a 4 gig limitation. i extracted the 6 gig file from pear's website, and it stopped at 4 gigs. I used it anyways.

well, after much fiddling, i made two partitions on the image. one a mac os extended of 3.5gigs, and the other a unix partition of 500mb.

after i did that, i could magically finally install!

I used the full 6GB, erased it and formatted as Mac OS Extended (non Journaled). I wasn't able to set a partition name without it giving the big red mark, so this time I left it as 'Untitled' and for some reason it worked.

T minus four hours.

Has anyone figured out if the emulator can be set to a specific chipset/processor? I have the full install of Jaguar and 10.2.7, but just the upgrade version of 10.3. I can't get to the installer in 10.2, but 10.2.7 will let me get to the installer, but it won't let me install because it is G5 only.

Any thoughts?

does anyone have a copy of MorphOS or Pegasos?

would be interesting to know if these worked, also BeOS PPC...

hmm, good idea kvd.

I'm running into a bit of a problem

I apparently have 0 bootable partitions. I have the 6GB image from the ppc site and I used Toast to create a .toast image (which I copied to my PC and renamed it as an .iso, which is allegedly ok). I have my config file set up correctly and it reads all the partitions (3 on the cd, one on the "harddrive"), but can't boot from any. Maybe the cd format is bad? how do i convert my .toast/.iso to a different format?

Oh, I didn't install Darwin, but apparently you don't need to (and I can't seem to download it from opensource.apple.com)?

Thanks

This might work, but it's really untested.

There should be closer to ten or twelve partitions on that CD.

I heard from a friend in the Mac Emulation Forums that you had to rename the extension on a Mac, then copy it over.

ugh, i deleted the image on my mac. is there any way to fix it on my pc? this could get real annoying otherwise...plus i don't want to have to wait to get home to try this.

I have installed panther 10.3, but after install, I get 0 bootable partitions !

Anyone have the solution ?

yeah stop trying to run osx on x86.

Who let the troll out then?
Wish people would keep this thread on topic because it very interesting reading without all the crap.

how can it be sped up?

How did you come up with this hex number?

Conspiracy theory du jour:

I installed the JITC version on a PC last night, downloaded the Darwin 7.01 PPC version and loaded it.
This morning, on a different PC, I downloaded the Darwin 7.01 PPC version -- and it refuses to install.

The only difference between these two PC's is that #1 is AMD 3000+ w/ 1GB ram... #2 is Intel 2.8GHz w/ 512MB ram. They both run the same OS, SP level, etc.

I could have sworn last night the Darwin download came as an ISO file -- it appears to be an .iso.gz file now.
Did Apple get wise to this and pull a switcheroo on the ISO file available for download?

I know, I'll go put on my tinfoil hat. It does strike me as odd, however, because I'm pretty sure I didn't have to unzip the Darwin download from last night.

-A-

I downloaded the Darwin ISO yesterday morning before PearPC made the front page on Neowin, and it was *.iso.gz.

he iso has always been compressed for as long I've been a member of ADC. What's the big deal - the image is compressed (ISO files aren't compressed so it makes sense to zip it up).

just unzip the thing.

I didn't need to unzip it; it worked as a .iso.gz for me.