SkyyPunk
May 12 2004, 01:56
hmmm i have tried installing twice now and it sticks @ 45min left for some odd reason...oddities!
PureEdit
May 12 2004, 01:59
This is COMPLETELY legal, so shutup NOW.
Running Mac OS * is ILLEGAL, but that is not all this can be used for.
MOL can already run Mac OS * on non Mac hardware (but still PPC), so this is nothing apple has not seen before.
Starman
May 12 2004, 01:59
Cool.
When you unzipped the jitc version, you got a few files in there. Make sure that you put the 3 GB .img file in that folder as well.
You need a disk image to run. Panther, Darwin, or Mandrake. Panther is 2 disks.
There's a file called ppccfg.example. Towards the bottom are config settings for the disk images; master and slave. I don't have the config file in front of me (Im' on my Powerbook at the moment

) but if you look back in this thread, you'll see examples of what to set those settings to.
Essentially, the master setting is turned on by changing the 0 to 1, and you set that as the filename of your hard drive image. You turn slave on by changing it from 0 to 1 and set the filename of the CD image you want to 'boot' from.
Mike
cooldude7273
May 12 2004, 02:07
i am going ****ING CRAZY
i can't do this
i am litteraly crying right now
JaredFrost
May 12 2004, 02:17
Quote - (volrathxp @ May 11 2004, 20:10)
figured it out!
try this:
prom_env_machargs = ""
This worked awesome for me, Thanks
Jackalo
May 12 2004, 02:22
Indeed. Congrats Volrath, you found the fix for running OS 10.2
Just thought i'd throw this in here.... i have tried the original OSX 10.0 and i can't get that to work. I have even tried the above fix that works for 10.2 but still no luck. Just thought some of you might be interested
CyBeRiA
May 12 2004, 03:26
anyone know of a way i can convert my .toast file to an .iso?
thanks
Liquid
May 12 2004, 03:26
Quote - (CyBeRiA @ May 11 2004, 19:26)
anyone know of a way i can convert my .toast file to an .iso?
thanks
A guess, Easy cd creator? Same comapny so maybe?
AgEnTsMiTh
May 12 2004, 03:39
Keep on topic. Only time this is going to be said.
volrathxp
May 12 2004, 03:40
Quote - (Jackalo @ May 12 2004, 02:22)
Indeed. Congrats Volrath, you found the fix for running OS 10.2
hey no problem, just trying to help out!

edit:
I would like to also note that allocating 512 mb of ram ( i have a gb in my machine) to PearPC has made a huge difference. it's not super fast, but it's reasonably faster than one with 128mb of ram.
DKAngel
May 12 2004, 04:21
how did u change the settings in the emu config to allow 512 ive tryied so many hex settings cant get it higher than 145 and even still it crashes
Rob2687
May 12 2004, 04:25
jeez this is slow.. its been extracting files for the Darwin thing for forever
It's installing, using Jackalo's guide, but it'll probably take forever and then some.
DKAngel
May 12 2004, 04:35
well i got darwin perfectly installed
but my osx 10.3 dies in the very last stages of install :
Starman
May 12 2004, 04:35
My installation's been running for about 5-1/2 hours now, and it's been stuck on 2h39m for about 45 minutes. Hasn't crashed, still running.
I'm really hoping they get something a little better for 0.2. Maybe networking and a small percentage faster.
Mike
volrathxp
May 12 2004, 04:50
Quote - (DKAngel @ May 12 2004, 04:21)
how did u change the settings in the emu config to allow 512 ive tryied so many hex settings cant get it higher than 145 and even still it crashes
set the memory size to 0x24000000
definitly worth setting your mem higher
cvs file have been updated
version 0.1.1:
- FPU: multiply fixed
- gcard: 1024x768x32 mode wasn't useable
- io registers weren't zero extended on byte or half accesses
- compiles now also with gcc 2.95
- boots debian for PowerPC
- got rid of printf() and exit() in HFS and HFS+ code
- fixed buggy copyTo() and copyAllTo() in stream.cc
- fixed IDEDevice::read(). must update "tel".
Trek234
May 12 2004, 05:05
Version 0.1.1
change log:
- FPU: multiply fixed
- gcard: 1024x768x32 mode wasn't useable
- io registers weren't zero extended on byte or half accesses
- compiles now also with gcc 2.95
- boots debian for PowerPC
- got rid of printf() and exit() in HFS and HFS+ code
- fixed buggy copyTo() and copyAllTo() in stream.cc
- fixed IDEDevice::read(). must update "tel".
on edit: Damn beat me by 3 mins.
Jackalo
May 12 2004, 05:07
Heh Thanks to you both for being observant in times that I'm not at the computer. ; )
DKAngel
May 12 2004, 05:08
[CPU/CPU] execution started at 05601080
[CPU/MMU] new pagetable: sdr1 = 0x2380007f
[CPU/MMU] new pagetable: sdr1 accepted
[CPU/MMU] number of pages: 2^20 pagetable_start: 0x23800000 size: 2^23
JITC Error: cannot read page-table.
thats what happens when i change the mem size to anythign but 128meg
DKAngel
May 12 2004, 05:09
someone go compile the jitc version for 0.1.1

then we can all play some more
Jackalo
May 12 2004, 05:17
I couldn't figure out how to compile it on my Laptop for Windows. I figured I would just set the target system to be i386-pc-winnt, but that didn't work. It just gave a ****load of errors.
DKAngel
May 12 2004, 05:49
i wanted to compile it specific for my cpu but that failed

im gonna try install the yellowdog linux powerpc version on this emu and see how it goes
Kibirinis
May 12 2004, 05:53
Ok i've installed the Mac OS X, my PPC restarts and then i got the error. When i tried to force my img I have an error "Permission Denied" I have 5 partitions but there is no bootable partition so it cannot start. Anyone knows where is the problem?
DKAngel
May 12 2004, 06:19
i cant even get it to sinstall with out crashing right near the end so i got no idea
though i can boot darwin up everytime though
Kibirinis
May 12 2004, 06:39
Quote - (nuka_t @ May 11 2004, 19:03)
VPC already is caqpable of running LH(windows version anyway) but if it can run xp, it can run lh.
The windows edition isn't emulation though: it's virtualization which isn't the same sort of thing it's more like MoL on PPC linux systems.
VirtualPC on OS X ~= PearPC on x86 because both are atleast emulation.
There is an updated version of virtualpc with office 2006 though I'm not aware of what the changes are aside from working around the lack of pseudo-little-endian-mode on G5s. VPC included with office 2007 will be the one that tells us a thing or two about the MBU at microsoft.
I totally disagree with your reasons to buy a macintosh (as I do in pretty much every thread you post in) but I'm not going to drag this too far off topic, there are enough goons doing that already. There's the soap box or PM if you really want to follow that topic.
Good morning everybody...
I'm trying the installation too (another anormal user

) and I read this thing with the memory...
this hex number 0x24000000 does not work: crashes too on my pc.
Can you give me a little help?
Then, wath's this with this cvs file... where can I download it?
Greetings from Switzerland
KlyX
Jackalo
May 12 2004, 07:45
CVS is a mechanism for holding the source code to the program so many developers can access it with ease. Unless you have a Linux box lying around, CVS will be useless for you unless you want to look at the code without compiling it.
As for the memory... I was able to successfully boot OS 10.2 with the memory set to 0x24000000. I didn't even get a Kernel Panic in anything I did inside of the OS. It was just dirt slow.
I have a Linux Box (SuSE 9.0) but... I think I'd like to install mol under linux... but I can't get it. The rpm wants the kmods and there aren't downloadable any more on the site... do you know someone who has this file? (mol-kmods-0.9.70....ppc.rpm) ?
What I want to do is to run a Program named REALBasic with a Mac Emulator... but as long I cannot tune up the memory, this would not work I think. Can you post the relevant part of your config file?
jazzman
May 12 2004, 08:24
Is that linux running on a PPC processor? If not, it won't work. MOL doesn't emulate the processor
****... it's a normal x86 processor.. So I'm just going on to try with PearPC...
So, I should get this memory thing up... how?
Okay, this isn't necessary for the next few hours --> Installation of Mac OS X
Ehm.. If my english sounds a bit curious... I'm from Switzerland

KlyX
Kibirinis
May 12 2004, 08:39
Hey i made topic dedicated to Pear PC, lets go there and discuss about issues, general discussion, help and other stuff.
http://www.neowin.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=166383
Ehm... I think it's enough to talk here and help here...
If anyone can help me...
Pilsbury
May 12 2004, 09:00
Quote - (Kibirinis @ May 12 2004, 05:53)
Ok i've installed the Mac OS X, my PPC restarts and then i got the error. When i tried to force my img I have an error "Permission Denied" I have 5 partitions but there is no bootable partition so it cannot start. Anyone knows where is the problem?
Did you get the error message:
IRQL_OS_NOT_BOUGHT_OR_STOLEN?
Pilsbury
May 12 2004, 09:13
Quote - (the evn show @ May 12 2004, 07:19)
The windows edition isn't emulation though: it's virtualization which isn't the same sort of thing it's more like MoL on PPC linux systems.
VirtualPC on OS X ~= PearPC on x86 because both are atleast emulation.
There is an updated version of virtualpc with office 2006 though I'm not aware of what the changes are aside from working around the lack of pseudo-little-endian-mode on G5s. VPC included with office 2007 will be the one that tells us a thing or two about the MBU at microsoft.
I totally disagree with your reasons to buy a macintosh (as I do in pretty much every thread you post in) but I'm not going to drag this too far off topic, there are enough goons doing that already. There's the soap box or PM if you really want to follow that topic.
Have you travelled back in time to tell us about future Microsoft products?
or do you mean Office X / Office X 2004?
Quote - (Pilsbury @ May 12 2004, 03:13)
Have you travelled back in time to tell us about future Microsoft products?
or do you mean Office X / Office X 2004?
It's listed as
Microsoft Office 2004 on the microsoft 'mactopia' site, you can call it whatever you want. There was a link to details about virtualpc 7 on neowin a while ago, but a quick search on google turns up
this macworld article.
There was an explanation from microsoft for why VirtualPC didn't work on G5 systems - in short a funciton available on previous powerpc processors that allowed the processor to 'seamlessly' work in both big-endian and little-endian mode is not in the power970, searching IBMs or Motorolas website will no doubt provide details about how that works.
So no time travel, just a little reading.
Pilsbury
May 12 2004, 09:35
You mentioned Office 2006 and 2007.
Which is where my confusion started
Kibirinis
May 12 2004, 09:50
Still can't boot OS X after installation. Is there any easy way to make OS X bootable after installation?
Quote - (Pilsbury @ May 12 2004, 03:35)
You mentioned Office 2006 and 2007.
Which is where my confusion started
Virtual PC is a bundled part of Office X now. It's currently available with professional version of Office X, and is listed as a bundled part of the pro version of Office 2004.
If Microsoft continues to develop Virtual-PC we will see the next major version in 2006/7 (they've released a new version about every 2 years for nearly a decade now) - which is not too far off the estimated ship time for the next version of Windows. Macintosh versions tend to ship years that Windows versions do not ship:
Windows saw office versions in:
95, 97, 99 (office 2000 shipped at the end of 99), 2003 - I can't remember when XP shipped, I'd guesstimate 2001 to coincide with the windows xp release.
Mac OS had office versions in:
98, 2000 (called 2001), 2002 (x), and now 2004.
Makes sense that we won't know how well (or if) Longhorn is supported until Microsoft ships Office 2006.
They alternate pretty nicely, and Microsoft has started
beta nominations for the next version of office which should ship in 2005 if the name is any indication of the ship date.
Is it really that unreasonable to expect Office 2006 to be the time we find out the fate of VirtualPC on Mac OS?
Nomisdk
May 12 2004, 09:59
come one get back to the topic
Pilsbury
May 12 2004, 10:19
Quote - (the evn show @ May 12 2004, 09:51)
Is it really that unreasonable to expect Office 2006 to be the time we find out the fate of VirtualPC on Mac OS?
Seeing as we know for certain that VPC isn't going to be shelved and that the Mac version has been updated, it's hardly hanging in the balance...
Pilsbury
May 12 2004, 10:20
Quote - (Kibirinis @ May 12 2004, 09:50)
Still can't boot OS X after installation. Is there any easy way to make OS X bootable after installation?
yeah, BUY it.
Quote - (Pilsbury @ May 12 2004, 10:20)
yeah, BUY it.
gotta love the truth
Kibirinis
May 12 2004, 10:44
Pilsbury: I love your sense of humor, but u're off topic.
I'm installing at the moment... I hope, everything works.
A tip for the Installation process.
Deactivate Programs which you don't need (all lanugage packets, except your language), the BSD-Package, the additional Voices and the software you won't need (i.e iTunes).
Pilsbury
May 12 2004, 10:56
Quote - (Kibirinis @ May 12 2004, 10:44)
Pilsbury: I love your sense of humor, but u're off topic.
http://www.neowin.net/forum/rules.htm2. No Warez (links) & Cracks: help, requests or posts that discuss circumvention. This includes linking to software, posting about it, and suggesting to get it.
I'll stay on topic and abide by the rules if you do the same.
Pilsbury
May 12 2004, 10:57
Quote - (KlyX @ May 12 2004, 10:45)
I'm installing at the moment... I hope, everything works.
A tip for the Installation process.
Deactivate Programs which you don't need (all lanugage packets, except your language), the BSD-Package, the additional Voices and the software you won't need (i.e iTunes).
Sound doesn't work, so, as you say, not installing iTunes, etc is a good idea to save time, and hard disc space.
Things like iMovie, etc, are going to be pretty useless too with the speed (or lack of it!)
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