niteowl
May 15 2004, 05:51
Well, this is interesting.
After PPC idols for any given period of time, it crashes.
I get this error. Hmmm...
I'll bet the linux version doesn't do that.
Does anyone else get this error?
amr_01
May 15 2004, 06:23
i've never had that error, and i have left Pear running idle for a few hours.
I think you get that error because OS X has a feature just as Windows does after being idle for a while.
Installing Mac OS X 10.3 now on PIII Tualatin 1.27Ghz 512MB SDRAM. Looks like it will take littlebit more then forever.
Btw, anyone tried to install OfficeX, Photoshop, etc?
niteowl
May 15 2004, 07:34
Quote - (Gendo @ May 15 2004, 07:26)
Installing Mac OS X 10.3 now on PIII Tualatin 1.27Ghz 512MB SDRAM. Looks like it will take littlebit more then forever.
Btw, anyone tried to install OfficeX, Photoshop, etc?

I will if I can keep Windows from crashing it long enough
Quote - (niteowl @ May 15 2004, 07:34)
I will if I can keep Windows from crashing it long enough

i got now 59% completed and 2 hours 27 mins left. Ill check it out too, then will post my result here.

my CPU burning in hell now.

100% load already few hours.
HellBender
May 15 2004, 07:50
Man, this stuff is crazy! I think I'll download the osx CDs and try this out on my own. I'm amazed
Nope, did not test it... But got REALBasic to work...
Doubleclick on a editiing-field... Waiting
Writing somethin in, and when I write here, it's going on to write in RB *lol*
really funny...
Like some Screenies? Here:

Compiling a test project with REALBasic

Testproject is running
sanderg14
May 15 2004, 10:54
have installed jaguar with 1 disk and it installed succesfull
and i have did the partitions like everybody sad but what do i need to do now? when i wount to boot up osx from my hard disk i made , i sad after a while , localhost xinetd[276] : {init_services} no services. Exiting
what do i need to do now
Im partion the 6 gb file in darwin but when Im at the part were I write in Name of the partion (MAC_OS_X) and then press enter It jumps to
command (? help):c
It suppose to jump to the part were I write in Apple_HFS as partition type ?
DO I press some other key than enter to confirm name of partion as Mac_OS_X to get it to jump to the part were I write in Apple_HFS as partition type....
sence It keeps jumpin over that part ?
unrealism
May 15 2004, 11:36
How in the world are you guys installing OSX without Darwin installed?? When I tried it and the OSX Install runs, it can not find a hard drive (image) to install to. When I install Darwin, the install works just fine. Now if only I can get the silly thing to boot up! LOL
werejag
May 15 2004, 11:39
this emu and a very small linux install will rock on a bios style chip.
unrealism
May 15 2004, 12:01
Hmm... ok here is what I did.
1. installed Darwin.
2. booted the MacOS off the cd (iso image1)
3. after the install completes it reboots pearpc automatically.
4. start pearpc again with this command line ppc ppccfg.osx
5. tell it to boot off of number 2. (hd)
6. osx appears to boot but does nothing with a grey pinwheel and a big crossed out circle.
7. tried to boot back to cd, but all it wants to do is install all over again if I do so.
any ideas what I might be doing wrong??
PearPC v0.1.1
MacOSX 10.2 Images
Here is my current config set too.
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# PearPC Configuration File
#
# Resolution
#
# 0: 640x480x8 (indexed)
# 1: 640x480x15
# 2: 640x480x32
# 3: 800x600x8 (indexed)
# 4: 800x600x15
# 5: 800x600x32
# 6: 1024x768x8 (indexed)
# 7: 1024x768x15
# 8: 1024x768x32
#
# The indexed modes are unsupported.
#
# default: 4
ppc_start_resolution = 4
#
# Redraw interval (in ms)
# must be between 1 and 999
#
# If you set this higher, PearPC will spend less time doing redraws (and so run faster)
# but feel less responsive. You should adjust this to your computer speed and personal
# preference.
#
redraw_interval_msec = 20
#
# Loader
#
#
# Boot method
# this can be
# 1. "auto", prom will boot the first bootable partition found (default)
# 2. "select", prom will show you a list of bootable partitions
# 3. "force", prom will load and boot the local file prom_loadfile
#
prom_bootmethod = "select"
# Example of how to use "force":
#prom_bootmethod = "force"
#prom_loadfile = "test/yaboot"
#prom_env_bootpath = "disk"
#
# bootargs: don't change unless you know what you are doing
# machargs: set to "-v" to get a verbose startup
#
prom_env_bootargs = ""
prom_env_machargs = ""
#
# This is needed if you want to boot Mac OS X
#
prom_driver_graphic = "video.x"
# This will adjust the position of the initial page table (don't change)
#page_table_pa = 104857600
#
# CPU Config
#
# Processor Version Register
# Defaults to 0x00088302
# Only change if you know want you are doing
#
#cpu_pvr = 0x00088302
#
# Main memory (default 128 MiB)
# must be >= 64 MiB
#
#memory_size=0x8000000
#
# IO Devices
#
#
# PCI IDE Config
#
# Drive type will be set according to file extension:
# .img: Harddisk (filesize must be multiple of 516096)
# .iso: CD-Rom
# Or you can override this by specifying the type via
# pci_ide0_master_type / pci_ide0_slave_type
pci_ide0_master_installed = 1
pci_ide0_master_image = "osx.img"
#pci_ide0_master_type = "hd"
pci_ide0_slave_installed = 1
#pci_ide0_slave_image = "darwin-701.iso"
pci_ide0_slave_image = "osx.iso"
#pci_ide0_slave_image = "/dev/cdrom"
pci_ide0_slave_type = "cdrom"
#
# Network (unavailable on windows)
#
pci_3c90x_installed = 0
pci_3c90x_mac = "de:ad:ca:fe:12:34"
#
# USB
#
pci_usb_installed = 1
#
# NVRAM
#
nvram_file = "nvram"
sanderg14
May 15 2004, 12:02
for the install of jaguar , do i need just 1 partition or 2 , i would made it with the disk manager in the installer
Knight'
May 15 2004, 12:05
I wish I had the time to get this working on my system

Exams next week
Oneill
May 15 2004, 12:10
I wish one of my mates had Panther
unrealism
May 15 2004, 12:19
Oneill
May 15 2004, 12:22
At least you can attempt to install it, im stuck unable to afford a mac with no one i can borrow OSX off
Wii got it to partion in darwin then I rebooted now installing OSX
unrealism
May 15 2004, 12:35
Sorry Oneill!!

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Only wish I could get it to boot after install... surely someone has a idea of what is going on. And how are people installing OSX without Darwin?? When I tried it does not show any devices to install to on OSX install.
Oneill
May 15 2004, 12:37
hehe dont be, just a little PO'd that ive wanted to test OSX for a while now but never been able to afford decetn mac hardware
SabaTime
May 15 2004, 14:07
how slow does OSX run on your guys is Machines?
volrathxp
May 15 2004, 14:12
Quote - (unrealism @ May 15 2004, 12:35)
Sorry Oneill!!

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Only wish I could get it to boot after install... surely someone has a idea of what is going on. And how are people installing OSX without Darwin?? When I tried it does not show any devices to install to on OSX install.

Have you tried just letting it sit there at that screen? Mine did that at first and then it went right on into booting.
unrealism
May 15 2004, 14:42
I think it has been on that screen for about a hour or so. Still sitting there, also have no activity on the hard drive. Guess I will let it set for a little longer.
Rob2687
May 15 2004, 19:49
hurray! i finally got 10.2 to work
reminds me of when i installed linux for the first time and i was like "now what?...."
bmw000
May 15 2004, 20:22
I have pearpc running with os 10.2.
I downloaded the 10.2.8 combo upate.
How can I get this into my emulated harddrive so I can install it?
The file is called MacOSXUpdateCombo10.2.8.dmg
Is there a disk image utility that can read my harddrive image so I can add this file to it?
Please advise.
Thanks,
Brian Weber
SAMeAiM
May 15 2004, 20:22
Does 10.2 run better than 10.3 in PearPC ?
Mav Phoenix
May 15 2004, 20:40
Quote - (Knight' @ May 10 2004, 08:25)
I'm at school now, when I get home I'll try it out. But I bet you anything this is fake.
So what was it you wanted to bet again?
Elite_graphix
May 15 2004, 21:45
^^ lol..
mitodna
May 15 2004, 22:24
hi,
may i know what linux distro that is very thin enough for the networking support?
plan install Linux on VMWare or Virtual PC and install Pear PC on top of it
thank you
みとDNA
unrealism
May 15 2004, 22:30
How are you mates installing OSX 10.2 through PearPC without using Darwin?? Everytime I leave Darwin uninstalled from the image, OSX install does not detect a hard drive (image) to install to.
particleWave
May 15 2004, 22:50
Quote - (bmw000 @ May 15 2004, 20:22)
I have pearpc running with os 10.2.
I downloaded the 10.2.8 combo upate.
How can I get this into my emulated harddrive so I can install it?
The file is called MacOSXUpdateCombo10.2.8.dmg
Is there a disk image utility that can read my harddrive image so I can add this file to it?
Please advise.
Thanks,
Brian Weber
I used the Nero demo available at
http://www.nero.com/en/ to create a data disk, add the .dmg file to the image and save it as an .iso. Then edit your config file to include the .iso file you made or click the "change disk" button in PearPC to have Mac OS load the CD.
You can then mount the .dmg file and start the upgrade as if you have a real CD in the drive. But, it seemed to freeze at the end of the upgrade for some reason leaving my hd file unbootable. Starting the install of OS X 10.2 over again. hehe. Hope you have more luck then I did.
SAMeAiM
May 16 2004, 00:11
The "Change CD" dosnt work 4 me at all..
bmw000
May 16 2004, 01:02
Trying to upgrade to os 10.2.8. First time it crashed at the beginning of the install. Second time it crashed with 8 min to go.
Maybe the third time will br a charm.
Nero worked like a charm making the .iso file.
The change cd button does nothing for me.
Brian Weber
niteowl
May 16 2004, 02:06
The "change CD" function still doesn't work. Hopefully it will work in the next version.
Autumnmist
May 16 2004, 02:20
You don't need to use Darwin to install OS X. Read the guide here:
http://www.emaculation.com/phpBB/viewforum.php?f=21Install took me ~4 hours from download to finder+desktop. No problems. This is on my laptop (2.4Ghz, 512MB RAM, GeForce4 4200 Go)
screenshot:
screenshot
MxxCon
May 16 2004, 02:24
Quote - (Autumnmist @ May 15 2004, 22:20)
Install took me ~4 hours from download to finder+desktop.
why don't you just cut off your balls you god dammed warez asshole
Relativity_17
May 16 2004, 02:48
Hahahaha
Just ignore Mxxcon. He likes to **** in other people's cornflakes...
Oh, and if I'm not mistaken, Autumnmist is a lady, thus, no balls included...
unrealism
May 16 2004, 03:20
I think you guys are fulla $xxt!!

Just kidding, hey I got my install finally working, now my stupid change CD button doesnt work!! Go figure... I am hopeing by changing my .iso image in the config it will read it off of that. Yippy!
Unrealism
Liquid
May 16 2004, 03:22
Quote - (MxxCon @ May 15 2004, 18:24)
why don't you just cut off your balls you god dammed warez asshole
Altho I agree with you on this, you should calm down. About 99% of neowin has downloaded at least 1 thing illegally.
And i freeze with 22min left
werejag
May 16 2004, 04:02
MxxCon
if all you going to go is be an ass about warez, then stop downloading warez yourself. its called being a hypocrite
Autumnmist
May 16 2004, 04:41
Quote - (Relativity_17 @ May 15 2004, 21:48)
Hahahaha
Just ignore Mxxcon. He likes to **** in other people's cornflakes...
Oh, and if I'm not mistaken, Autumnmist is a lady, thus, no balls included...

Yes, Autumnmist is a lady (points to title below avatar). Thank you.

And by download I meant download PearPC and the pre-prepped disk image, *NOT* the OS X install disc (which, FYI were perfectly legal).
Quote - (Autumnmist @ May 15 2004, 22:41)
Yes, Autumnmist is a lady (points to title below avatar). Thank you.

And by download I meant download PearPC and the pre-prepped disk image, *NOT* the OS X install disc (which, FYI were perfectly legal).
are you talking about an image of os x installed on say my machine (but not the install media) or is this 'pre-prepped' disk something else?
Autumnmist
May 16 2004, 12:54
Quote - (the evn show @ May 16 2004, 00:16)
are you talking about an image of os x installed on say my machine (but not the install media) or is this 'pre-prepped' disk something else?
Check out the Emaculation forums... There are some blank (as in no content) "disk images" --- essentially they're just blank .img files of a properly formatted hard drive that expand to fill ~3GB. This is what the OS X installer will write to when it installs. Otherwise you need to use the Disk Utility or Darwin to partition and format before installing.
*sigh*
Again, perfectly legal. This is why there's a fairly high success rate of getting this working over on the Emaculation forums. Using the pre-prepped disk image allows you to avoid a very time-consuming and error-prone process (patitioning and formatting what is essentially blank space).
Yeesh, just because some of you pirate things doesn't mean all the rest of us do too! Download != Download warez.
And just because I'm being helpful, here's "Install OS X 10.3" in 20 steps:
tutorial.
Starman
May 16 2004, 14:19
Anyone try 0.1.1 yet? Is it any faster/more relaiable?
Mike
particleWave
May 16 2004, 14:53
I'm having trouble with my CD command in my config file.
I can only boot my HD image when I comment out the CD image.
I booted my HD image successfully with an .iso image yesterday, so I don't understand this.
Anyone else having this problem, and know of a solution?
thanks
unrealism
May 16 2004, 15:24
All I can say is it is about fricken time!! For some reason I got it working this way and dont know why it mattered.
1. Started a fresh image.
2. Partitioned with Darwin (ppc.exe ppccfg.darwin)
3. Did not install Darwin this time!!
4. Booted OSX 10.2 image. (ppc.exe ppccfg.osx)
5. No disk showed up in the OSX install so I opened up Disk Manager.
6. Partitioned with OSX.
7. Formated drive with OSX, and started install.
8. Rebooted PearPC (My Change CD button would not work so I changed my image in the ppccfg.osx to osx2.iso)
9. Finished install of second disk. (Note: It seems to go into a sleep mode if you do not keep the mouse active, anyone else have this problem??)
10. After gruleing hours of staying awake to keep moving the silly mouse!
11. TaDA!!!!!!!

Anyone know why I am showing 128mb Ram in the OSX 10.2 System Info?? I am running 512Mb. Anyway to change this to boost performance perhaps??
Also has anyone installed Darwin and got OSX to boot? That is one of the things why I think I was getting the boot screen to hang w/ slashed circle!!
Cheers, and thank you all!!
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particleWave
May 16 2004, 15:40
Unrealism
Config file please...
thanks
Also, you can't have the same amount of RAM in PearPC as you have in your system.
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