niteowl
May 17 2004, 18:35
Quote - (five04 @ May 17 2004, 18:25)
that's not a mac. he's just got windows modified with a theme and icons to look like one.
Oh yeah, I didn't notice the program bar at the top of the screen.
Damn old monior. lol
Anyway, that's a cool Windows theme.
Quote - (AquaFX @ May 17 2004, 07:48)
if x200 is 512 mb's of ram, what would 1024 mb's of ram be in binary?
Why not ask google? She'll tell you it's 0x400
By the by: 0x200 is Hex,
0x200 = 512, typically you'll prefix binary numbers with "0b" and hexidecimal numbers with "0x", base 10 numbers are typically just written as is.
i hope they manage to get Network support in a future release of PearPC, would be really nice.
misecia
May 17 2004, 19:11
The thread seems to be becoming nothing more than a big advert for Bit Torrent
After all this how many of you would seriously consider getting a Mac, rather than all this messing around
Quote - (misecia @ May 17 2004, 15:11)
The thread seems to be becoming nothing more than a big advert for Bit Torrent
After all this how many of you would seriously consider getting a Mac, rather than all this messing around

I was considering getting a used G3 or G4 just to be able to screw arround on a mac, but now i don't have to.
the install was really easy and didn't take very long. It's slow, but i know that will change.
Oneill
May 17 2004, 19:17
Quote - (misecia @ May 17 2004, 20:11)
The thread seems to be becoming nothing more than a big advert for Bit Torrent
After all this how many of you would seriously consider getting a Mac, rather than all this messing around

Me, i was looking at getting a cheap G3 Snow Ibook to break me in to OSX, then maybe a better mac at some point down the line, just trying to install it now on PPC
jedavis1
May 17 2004, 19:20
Quote - (misecia @ May 17 2004, 19:11)
The thread seems to be becoming nothing more than a big advert for Bit Torrent
After all this how many of you would seriously consider getting a Mac, rather than all this messing around

Why is it that so many people think that every one here is into warez and illegally copying software? I happen to own a G5, tiBook and a Beige Beauty... and I have still put hours/days into getting this to run and trying to help others. No illegal software! The pure geek-ness of running OS X on x86 architecture is the reason for it...
I have been following Mac on PC emulation since 93 or 94 when Executor Dos first came out, since then Basilisk II, Softmac, Fusion PC, vMac and a few others have came out... Why is it that people can't see this as a Hobby for many and inspiration that it can actually be done?
Anyone remember Mt. Everest? Why in the heck somebody would want to risk death... because it's there.
As someone who has been accused of warez/pirating... please lay off and stick to topic of helping/fine tuning this inspirational achievement.
AquaFX
May 17 2004, 19:24
the isntalltion went fine but when i wen to boot it, i get this error, help plz?
misecia
May 17 2004, 19:27
I admit that its a good advert for the Mac, but who would really go out and spend $150 on an operating system not designed for their system and hence probably won't work, or would spend hours/days trying to get it working only to get fed up of it after a few days...??
Elite_graphix
May 17 2004, 19:29
Quote - (jedavis1 @ May 17 2004, 19:20)
Why is it that so many people think that every one here is into warez and illegally copying software? I happen to own a G5, tiBook and a Beige Beauty... and I have still put hours/days into getting this to run and trying to help others. No illegal software! The pure geek-ness of running OS X on x86 architecture is the reason for it...
I have been following Mac on PC emulation since 93 or 94 when Executor Dos first came out, since then Basilisk II, Softmac, Fusion PC, vMac and a few others have came out... Why is it that people can't see this as a Hobby for many and inspiration that it can actually be done?
Anyone remember Mt. Everest? Why in the heck somebody would want to risk death... because it's there.
As someone who has been accused of warez/pirating... please lay off and stick to topic of helping/fine tuning this inspirational achievement.
well said..
five04
May 17 2004, 19:32
Quote - (AquaFX @ May 17 2004, 15:24)
the isntalltion went fine but when i wen to boot it, i get this error, help plz?
10. Go into your config file and change the "prom_env_machargs" to read "-s". Thats SMALL s, not capital s. Obviously if the line is commented out, remove the # so it works. Boot the machine from the CD again as before. This eventually leaves you with the shell/command prompt, and we're about to tackle the job that Darwin would've been used for if it were needed. Type "pdisk" to start the partition tool.
11. Type "e" (without quote marks) then hit enter.
12. For name of device enter "/dev/disk0". Again, no quote marks.
13. Press "p" to view the partition table. The 3rd one actually needs to be moved up to 2 to make it bootable. So...
14. Press "r" to go into partition reordering mode.
15. Enter the number of that partition (3).
16. Enter 2 to move it to the second position.
17. Hit w to write the partition table, check it using p again if you want to confirm it is all okay.
18. Hit q to quit, then hit it again.q. Type reboot which will close PearPC.
19. Go into the config file and comment out the "prom_env_machargs", which will leave the standard mac bootup screen rather than the verbose mode when you now restart PearPC.
i had this problem on just the last page. dazzla helped me out.
Redestium
May 17 2004, 19:43
Quote - (misecia @ May 17 2004, 15:27)
I admit that its a good advert for the Mac, but who would really go out and spend $150 on an operating system not designed for their system and hence probably won't work, or would spend hours/days trying to get it working only to get fed up of it after a few days...??
That’s not the case for everyone, taking this thread as evidence.
niteowl
May 17 2004, 19:47
I have always been a fan of Macintosh computers and will probably purchase one within the next six months to a year.
This PearPC truely cannot compare to the real thing (of course), but it's cool to experiment with this anyways.
I actually bought a legal version of Mac OS X from ebay for $10 bucks.....just so I can mess with it in PearPC got it installed and working, now that I can actually run OS X I don't see what the big deal about it is, XP seems just so much better.
Dazzla
May 17 2004, 19:52
Nice one, judging an OSX from a buggy, super slow emulator which has no real representation of the OS in use at all. Genious, give that guy an award!
Back OT, wouldn't something like an A64 cope better with the emulation because of it's extra registers?
jedavis1
May 17 2004, 20:13
I have a video question?
Is the video.x file really needed in Windows? or is it a Linux only driver?
I was experimenting with settings a while ago and commented it out, and forgot about it... I have 10.2.8 installed and running without any trouble... It is slow, but I haven't noticed a difference with it.
Just askin'
Jon
AquaFX
May 17 2004, 20:14
Quote - (five04 @ May 17 2004, 19:32)
10. Go into your config file and change the "prom_env_machargs" to read "-s". Thats SMALL s, not capital s. Obviously if the line is commented out, remove the # so it works. Boot the machine from the CD again as before. This eventually leaves you with the shell/command prompt, and we're about to tackle the job that Darwin would've been used for if it were needed. Type "pdisk" to start the partition tool.
11. Type "e" (without quote marks) then hit enter.
12. For name of device enter "/dev/disk0". Again, no quote marks.
13. Press "p" to view the partition table. The 3rd one actually needs to be moved up to 2 to make it bootable. So...
14. Press "r" to go into partition reordering mode.
15. Enter the number of that partition (3).
16. Enter 2 to move it to the second position.
17. Hit w to write the partition table, check it using p again if you want to confirm it is all okay.
18. Hit q to quit, then hit it again.q. Type reboot which will close PearPC.
19. Go into the config file and comment out the "prom_env_machargs", which will leave the standard mac bootup screen rather than the verbose mode when you now restart PearPC.
i had this problem on just the last page. dazzla helped me out.
i didn't use darwin
five04
May 17 2004, 20:22
so? you don't have to use darwin. that's the whole point of this. it boots up off the install cd of os x into a command line environment where you do all this.
also in the first step listed there it says "and we're about to tackle the job that Darwin would've been used for if it were needed."
niteowl
May 17 2004, 20:32
Quote - (jedavis1 @ May 17 2004, 20:13)
I have a video question?
Is the video.x file really needed in Windows? or is it a Linux only driver?
I was experimenting with settings a while ago and commented it out, and forgot about it... I have 10.2.8 installed and running without any trouble... It is slow, but I haven't noticed a difference with it.
Just askin'
Jon
You're running OS X without the video.x file? Hmmm..
According to this
http://pearpc.sourceforge.net/config.htmlThere is something in the config file called
prom_driver_graphic which has a value of "video.x"
Quote -
A special graphic driver prom should load. ("video.x" if you want to boot Mac OS X)
In Linux, it wouldn't let me try to install OS X or Darwin without the video.x file.
Dazzla
May 17 2004, 20:34
Installing 10.3.3 then it's time to get customizing
Quote - (Dazzla @ May 17 2004, 13:52)
Nice one, judging an OSX from a buggy, super slow emulator which has no real representation of the OS in use at all. Genious, give that guy an award!
Back OT, wouldn't something like an A64 cope better with the emulation because of it's extra registers?
I have tried the real thing before, never did liked it the only thing PearPC did today is affirm this!
particleWave
May 17 2004, 20:48
Does anyone know if PearPC is faster in Linux than in windows?
I am going to install it on my Fedora box tonight and check, so I'll
post my findings later.
Thanks to everyone in this thread for all their help getting this cool
software up and running.
...well almost everyone, hehe...
Redestium
May 17 2004, 20:53
Quote - (particleWave @ May 17 2004, 16:48)
Does anyone know if PearPC is faster in Linux than in windows?
I am going to install it on my Fedora box tonight and check, so I'll
post my findings later.
Thanks to everyone in this thread for all their help getting this cool
software up and running.
...well almost everyone, hehe...
Yeah, that'd be an interesting test.
cpu killer
May 17 2004, 21:06
Tried installing - install was a success, but when I try to boot into OSX after the install it says it found no bootable partitions...any ideas? 0,o..
niteowl
May 17 2004, 22:25
I'm installing Mac OS X (using PearPC) on a Red Hat Enterprise Linux box.
The install is a tiny bit faster than it was in Windows and it seems to be more stable too.
I'll have to run the OS when it finishing installing to make a more accurate analysis about it's condition.
phalanx126
May 17 2004, 22:26
hmm, everytime i try to install it i get 'blah blah blah not recognized as an internal command'
Dazzla
May 17 2004, 22:28
Just updated to OS X 10.3.3
five04
May 17 2004, 22:45
dazzla, how are you installing 10.3.3? when i start up the installer it tells me that my hard drive doesn't meet the requirements.
Dazzla
May 17 2004, 22:47
Have you got enough space? It needs like 250MB.
FatCat
May 17 2004, 22:52
Quote - (Dazzla @ May 17 2004, 16:28)
dazzla , how slow is it? can you actually do stuff, (you seem to be) or is there way too much lag?
jack_canada
May 17 2004, 23:09
Quote - (FatCat @ May 17 2004, 22:52)
dazzla , how slow is it? can you actually do stuff, (you seem to be) or is there way too much lag?
it takes 3 seconds to see the cursor move
AquaFX
May 17 2004, 23:15
Quote - (five04 @ May 17 2004, 20:22)
so? you don't have to use darwin. that's the whole point of this. it boots up off the install cd of os x into a command line environment where you do all this.
also in the first step listed there it says "and we're about to tackle the job that Darwin would've been used for if it were needed."
ok you just totally lost me there buddy, i installed osx using a .iso file on PearPC..but i got that error, is there anyway to fix that error since i didn't install darwin...?
Quote - (jack_canada @ May 17 2004, 17:09)
it takes 3 seconds to see the cursor move
Hmm that's not normal mine works almost instantaneously.
Dazzla
May 17 2004, 23:18
It feels like a P200-300 running XP with all it's effects on, so it's sluggish, but not unbearable. And no it doesn't take 3 seconds for the cursor to move, it's instant for me, I've allocated 512mb for PearPC as well. I've installed a few themes, installed Windowshade X and just installed iTunes 4.5:
goatbutt
May 17 2004, 23:25
Nice work dazz, how fast is you cpu? and what kind?
Dazzla
May 17 2004, 23:28
Athlon 64, 3200+, 1GB Ram.
Redestium
May 17 2004, 23:30
Quote - (Dazzla @ May 17 2004, 19:18)
It feels like a P200-300 running XP with all it's effects on, so it's sluggish, but not unbearable. And no it doesn't take 3 seconds for the cursor to move, it's instant for me, I've allocated 512mb for PearPC as well. I've installed a few themes, installed Windowshade X and just installed iTunes 4.5:
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/sherry.ponting/Junk/PearPC3.jpg Wow that rocks. 0.1.1 must have helped.
goatbutt
May 17 2004, 23:30
Bah, I knew it was to good to run on my 32 bit rig. Hehe.
So... I was worried about trying this on my athlon 64 3200+ system, I though I read somewhere that it won't work on 64bit. Must be wrong though. What kind of ram? (PC4000, PC...)
It should work _much_ faster on A64. I'm not sure if PPC takes advantage of this yet, however...
Currentally I have ti running off of my iPod, so it shouldn't be hard to move!

BTW "Equally, PearPC will probably only run on 32-bit architectures. This shouldn't be hard to fix either. (You can donate...)"
From the PearPC official, I know I read it somewhere!
Angel Blue01
May 17 2004, 23:53
So there goes being able to run it on my 866-PIII XP?
I wish I had a faster PC.
phalanx126
May 18 2004, 00:05
can someone please help me! everytime i try to execute my config file, it says that it's not recognized as an external or internal command...what do i do?
uniacid
May 18 2004, 00:18
so does networking work on linux then? just wondering
Detroit
May 18 2004, 00:22
How would oyu allocate 512mb to it?
uniacid
May 18 2004, 00:24
Quote - (ubersheep @ May 17 2004, 19:22)
How would oyu allocate 512mb to it?
use this in your ppccfg_HD
memory_size=0x20000000
Detroit
May 18 2004, 00:31
thnx

How do i connect? I can only choose modem
evacsoul
May 18 2004, 00:31
^ is the performance boost from doing that noticeable?
goatbutt
May 18 2004, 00:32
I would imagine so.
uniacid
May 18 2004, 00:32
Quote - (evacsoul @ May 17 2004, 19:31)
^ is the performance boost from doing that noticeable?
not really sure havent tried it with 128mb or less than 512, I only used 128 when installing and it was slow but thats normal I'm guessing
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