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xxkrnxstylezxx
cant you just send it into logitech??
2226
The distributor I went through had a chat with my local Logitech office who said they won't do it without an original purchase invoice. Logitech also say something about not dealing with things bought off eBay. If I had to send it back I'd have to send it all the way back to the USA ($40) and have Logitech send it all the way back ($40+).

Anyway, someone has a dinovo with the media pad, might get that instead and try my luck, hopefully this time with a proper invoice. After that I'm off to find someone who can do some proper work on the transceiver in the hub and keyboard. If they get it running I'll have 2 dinovos. smile.gif

Otherwise, I'm gonna get the item from justdeals.com, but need to find out if they give a real invoice and proper Logitech warranty.
SaguratuS
Now that is one sweet setup
Great review dazzla! keep up with the compulsory buying! thumbs_up.gif
col_sandurz
is there a way to replace the dinovo mouse with a MX1000 and still have it all run through that one hub? are they working on it?
morkuma
Quote - (col_sandurz @ Sep 12 2004, 14:21)
is there a way to replace the dinovo mouse with a MX1000 and still have it all run through that one hub? are they working on it?

the mx1000 works on fastRF, where the mx900 works on bluetooth


they won't work together.
flamechocobo
Is this set really worth 170+ dollars? I mean, the whole wireless premise is nice, but 170 dollars or more seems a little pricey.
alex.
I would say it's worth it, I find it really easy to type with and a like the mouse.

The only problem I am having with it is I can't get my phone (sendo x) to connect to the hub.
Peter Griffin
I ended up selling mine. Even with the hub very close to everything, it had some major lags sometimes, and a typed key wouldnt actually show up onscreen for about 1-2 seconds later. The keys, in my opinion, have to be pounded to be recognized that they are being typed. So I sold mine and picked up a Belkin ErgoBoard Pro and a Logitech MX1000
iconboy
hey just wondering, Im thinking of buying this keyboard/mouse set, and i dont currently have bluetooth on my PC. Do i have to buy some kind of bluetooth USB dongle? or does the set come with some kind of bluetooth reciever that i can use and possibly get more bluetooth devices int he future..
KayMan2K
Quote - (iconboy @ Sep 20 2004, 13:07)
hey just wondering, Im thinking of buying this keyboard/mouse set, and i dont currently have bluetooth on my PC. Do i have to buy some kind of bluetooth USB dongle? or does the set come with some kind of bluetooth reciever that i can use and possibly get more bluetooth devices int he future..

It comes with a Bluetooth base reciever for DiNovo and other Bluetooth products.
..Vector..
Just got one, LOVE IT jump.gif
..Vector..
I can't seem to get the media pad to notify me when somebody messages me?

I'm using MSN Messenger 6.2 and have the latest setpoint software from the logitech website smile.gif
navicaph
Does it need to be used with bluetooth adapter that comes with it or would I be able to use my own? I want to use the keyboard, but I already have an mx1000.
shuangyefei
the keyboard is so cool
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Codegen
I don't have ~$300 to spend on a keyboard *drool*
Hypoxiaicon
I just want the keyboard.

I already have a MX1000... Wish Logitech would sort some new Wirless Keyboards wink.gif
jazmon
man i want that.
2226
Right, I return, this time I'm typing from a dinovo keyboard again. After months of working with only the mediapad and MX900 going along with a regular noisy clack-panel I finally found someone selling a spare silver MX900 and only the keyboard (no mediapad). Perfect! smile.gif

Don't know if any of you remember, but I managed to kill my dinovo a few months back.

Anyway, I've been doing many late nights of development work and it's such a pleasure using this keyboard. No loud key noises and not much strain happening anymore. smile.gif I recommend this baby to those who can afford it. I took my chances on eBay and even with the death of one of the pieces I managed to get back up and running for much less than my local suppliers prices.

However, some words of warning. The keys along the edges do have a design flaw relating to the rubber pads under the keys. They pop out so sometimes you'll find a dead key or even have to hammer the key to get it to do anything. I figured that from the death of the keyboard.

This one I have is working really well, except that in .NET IDE I tend to use the left CTRL alot so occassionally it seems to display the problem in the rubber pad design.

Also, I run XP Pro with SP2 and I haven't managed to successfully get the whole bluetooth thing working. At the moment the dinovo hub shows up as some USB device, and not as a bluetooth device. It's a problem with Microsofts limited implementation of the bluetooth stack. However, there are issues with Widcomm and MS installations clashing. All we really need from Logitech is some form of decent signed driver. I managed to faff with a MSI BToes signed driver and finally got this hub showing up in the bluetooth section of WinXP. At present I don't run Widcomm stuff or any drivers. I run SetPoint 2.11. I think that functions of normal windows interface stuff and watches keystrokes so is not specific or anything. Or maybe the MS stack is working in the background. Dunno.

the problem is that because of the whole logitech/widcomm/microsoft software and driver issue with this unit, even though the unit is functional, I cannot use the stunning bluetooth hub (or any other bluetooth device not approved by microsoft) to search out and connect to other devices. Even though my dinovo items are shown as HID items, the hub/radio/transceiver itself is not really supported by SP2. Stupid moneygrabbing O/S maker.

Also, I did at one point have widcomm running along with SP2, but not for long and I have to admit it sure does eat up alot of resources and the response from the dinovo is laggy. Perhaps this might explain why some people complain about lagginess from the mouse/keyboard. With only SP2 installed it is much faster so I guess the MS BT is doing something or all comms is through the simple listed USB device. Now if only they'd recognise the logitech hub and allow it to function like a normal bluetooth setup...

Anyway, apart from software (forget about SP2) and keeping your fingers light on the keys on the edges, this puppy rocks, especially when you're doing those really long hours.

By the way, there's a new dinovo out. Looks exactly the same, but now with bluetooth 1.2 or something like that. Easier power consumption and some frequency hopping thing. Let's hope they at least make a decent driver to get this working nicely with microsoft stuff. (Honestly, would prefer to use MS BT stack 'cos I'm tired of the multitude of installs required when something goes wrong).

Excuse the long blurb... it's just so cool to type on this thing. tongue.gif

Next up I intend to get myself a CoolerMaster Stacker.
Raum
I plan on getting myself one of these for Christmas. Does anyone have a US retailer they could suggest? Cheapest place I could find that I've heard of before is Tiger Direct and Amazon with 150$.
Dazzla
I've got setpoint 1.05 (which includes the BT stack) installed and it works flawlessly, I haven't got any clashes or anything. As a consequence I can use the bluetooth hub without problem as well with 7610 connecting perfectly, no lagging either.
Winston
just a question Dazzla lol what's your job? you seem to be fairly loaded, haha you purchase alot of hardware, just wondering. Oh and nice buy smile.gif
YBG
That set is seriously sweet. I'd get it, but I have so many other things I have to buy before that..sad.gif
nuscur
yo daz what kind of camera do you have the shots are wonderful
lsquare
Just wondering if the current DiNovo and or the upcoming new version of the DiNovo have a way to disable the "sleeping" feature? I don't like the fact that the keyboard goes to sleep and then I have to wait for it to wake up.
altezza
No one beats you Dazzla. It seems you have wicked computer setup there. You also regularly shop gadgets lately...I think you bought Nintendo DS recently, no? Anyway very nice comprehensive review...I like that keyboard but its laptop style keyboard that I dislike. Also typing on the black or dark coloured keyboard makes my typing speed slower...I feel heavy somehow.
Wannes
nice phone dazzla
..Vector..
QUOTE(altezza @ Dec 3 2004, 12:34)
I like that keyboard but its laptop style keyboard that I dislike. Also typing on the black or dark coloured keyboard makes my typing speed slower...I feel heavy somehow.
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It's the opposite for me smile.gif

Since i purchased this lurrvly set my typing speed has improved and the black keys just look sexier hehe happy.gif
Wannes
i was wondering what's the difference between the laptop version and the normal version of the keyboard?
Dazzla
Normal is BT, the other is RF.
Wannes
alright, there cleary is a big price difference. how much didyou buy it for dazzla? down here it costs 239 euros which i think is a lot.
..Vector..
Don't forgt, the DiNovo 2.0 is out this month sometime so you may wanna hang on a bit wink.gif
Wannes
what upgrades have they added? price difference?
lsquare
QUOTE([a fire chronicle] @ Dec 3 2004, 10:26)
what upgrades have they added? price difference?
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they're adding BT 1.2 support
lsquare
QUOTE(Sgt_Strider @ Nov 30 2004, 20:51)
Just wondering if the current DiNovo and or the upcoming new version of the DiNovo have a way to disable the "sleeping" feature? I don't like the fact that the keyboard goes to sleep and then I have to wait for it to wake up.
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Anyone here able to answer the questions in bold? Since no one answered it before, I hope someone can help me now.
alex.
QUOTE(Sgt_Strider @ Dec 4 2004, 07:17)
Anyone here able to answer the questions in bold? Since no one answered it before, I hope someone can help me now.
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I don't think it will be possible to disable this feature, if it wasn't there then everything would drain the batteries very quickly.
..Vector..
QUOTE([a fire chronicle] @ Dec 3 2004, 17:26)
what upgrades have they added? price difference?
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The only main hardware difference is the bluetooth 1.2 i think, but the rest of the improvements are software side and will be available to download from the Logitech site smile.gif

Wannes
thanks, ill wait for v2 then. smile.gif
Hypoxiaicon
2.0!! Sweet biggrin.gif

altezza
QUOTE(Vector™ @ Dec 4 2004, 03:05)
It's the opposite for me smile.gif

Since i purchased this lurrvly set my typing speed has improved and the black keys just look sexier hehe  happy.gif
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Yeah black always sexy but this one just does not work on me...dunno why. Well I don't really care that much biggrin.gif
lsquare
QUOTE
Just wondering if the current DiNovo and or the upcoming new version of the DiNovo have a way to disable the "sleeping" feature? I don't like the fact that the keyboard goes to sleep and then I have to wait for it to wake up.


So no one that has this keyboard is able to answer my question?
Wannes
Dazzla should be able to answer this, just be patient.
alex.
QUOTE(Sgt_Strider @ Dec 5 2004, 00:21)
So no one that has this keyboard is able to answer my question?
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QUOTE(alex. @ Dec 4 2004, 07:47)
I don't think it will be possible to disable this feature, if it wasn't there then everything would drain the batteries very quickly.
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You cannot disable the "sleep" feature, it send the peripherals to sleep in order to conserve battery power. As I already said above. Imagine the amount of people who would complain if they had to replace the batteries in the keyboard and mediapad every month or so because the batteries were run down.

The keyboard and mouse take all of two seconds to come out of sleep mode on my machine.
Dazzla
I can't say I've noticed it to be honest. I presume the sleep mode is the <1 lag which comes after you leave the set doing nothing for an absolute age. 1 second to come out of sleep is nothing. It's not as if you would've left it for perhaps 2 hours then have to come back so urgently that 1 second was unbearable, it's not as if it intrudes on every day use, it's a useful feature.
..Vector..
I haven't even noticed it heh hmm.gif
Wannes
QUOTE(Dazzla @ Dec 5 2004, 19:56)
I can't say I've noticed it to be honest. I presume the sleep mode is the <1 lag which comes after you leave the set doing nothing for an absolute age. 1 second to come out of sleep is nothing. It's not as if you would've left it for perhaps 2 hours then have to come back so urgently that 1 second was unbearable, it's not as if it intrudes on every day use, it's a useful feature.
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1 sec? gosh what ya'll complain about tongue.gif
lsquare
Alright, thanks guys!
..Vector..
Setpoint 2.22 is out biggrin.gif

http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/download...,contentid=7692

The media pad now shows track info for iTunes, and more media players, not just WMP smile.gif
lsquare
Just curious, does anyone here know when the new DiNovo sets comes out? I know Logitech said shipment will occur in December.
..Vector..
Nope, Logitech have only mentioned December...
netbotix
What is this new DiNovo going to be?
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