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mr_demilord
Firefox. nuff said.
MAdbUSU
good job yes.gif

...i like this post ...i'am new on Neowin ...and i want to do the same post + voting.
.........................what is the best web broswer.........................


i use opera because has resume on download
my internet provider dont allow me to use download manager programs


now i'am testing firefox
MAdbUSU
QUOTE(soldier1st @ Jun 10 2005, 08:42)
gecko
the ie engine is terrible.it's also full of bugs and problems.
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The_Decryptor
QUOTE(mr_demilord @ May 5 2005, 18:19)
FIREFOX!!! yes.gif
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QUOTE(mr_demilord @ Jun 13 2005, 21:17)
Firefox. nuff said.
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can you please stop saying firefox, 1. it's not the engine, 2. you only had to say it once.

QUOTE(worbd @ May 7 2005, 00:43)
KHTML isn't very good. WebCore (Safari) is quite good, though.
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KHTML is good, WebCore and KHTML are basically the same, just forked, both pass Acid2, and that's pretty good (only other browser to pass is iCab)
Elliott
QUOTE(The_Decryptor @ Jun 19 2005, 11:20)
KHTML is good, WebCore and KHTML are basically the same, just forked, both pass Acid2, and that's pretty good (only other browser to pass is iCab)
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KHTML passed partly because of the revisions made in WebKit. WebKit still has plenty of features KHTML doesn't have (some of which are being proposed for a de-facto HTML 5 spec).
MAdbUSU
Hmmm
i see 62% goes to FF ....WY???
i think oprera v8.01 rules
for 2days i install FF 1.04 and now 1.05 nothig change
1. don't have tabs
2. don't suport resume on download ..after i close the browser my download is cancel it....stupid thing !!!!
i wait for 2h for an download to complet aprox 83% until complit ....i need to reboot ...and i lose all..this s*cks.


SO WY FF? huh.gif huh.gif
rm20010
QUOTE(MAdbUSU @ Jun 23 2005, 16:30)
Hmmm
i see 62% goes to FF ....WY???
i think oprera v8.01 rules
for 2days i install FF 1.04 and now 1.05 nothig change
1. don't have tabs
2. don't suport resume on download ..after i close the browser my download is cancel it....stupid thing !!!!
i wait for 2h for an download to complet aprox 83% until complit ....i need to reboot ...and i lose all..this s*cks.
SO WY FF? huh.gif  huh.gif
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Just a matter of user preference. Although I would assume a good percent of that 62% is not because they find the engine better for their needs, it's only because of rampant fanboyism.

BTW to save you some face, some of your claims in your post are unrealistic. One, I haven't heard of 1.05 released yet (or it's a beta, I dunno). Two, your other two claims seem to come from using Internet Explorer. whistle.gif
vcv
QUOTE(rm20010 @ Jun 24 2005, 16:10)
Just a matter of user preference. Although I would assume a good percent of that 62% is not because they find the engine better for their needs, it's only because of rampant fanboyism.

BTW to save you some face, some of your claims in your post are unrealistic. One, I haven't heard of 1.05 released yet (or it's a beta, I dunno). Two, your other two claims seem to come from using Internet Explorer.  whistle.gif
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Actually tabs are hidden by default and resume isnt supported in FF

Though I'm not sure what that has to do with rendering engines...
M2Ys4U
QUOTE(MAdbUSU @ Jun 23 2005, 20:30)
Hmmm
i see 62% goes to FF ....WY???
i think oprera v8.01 rules
for 2days i install FF 1.04 and now 1.05 nothig change
1. don't have tabs
2. don't suport resume on download ..after i close the browser my download is cancel it....stupid thing !!!!
i wait for 2h for an download to complet aprox 83% until complit ....i need to reboot ...and i lose all..this s*cks.
SO WY FF? huh.gif  huh.gif
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1. uhhh Firefox does have tabs
2. I know, this is an infuriating "bug". Go vote for it @ bugzilla: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=229230
M2Ys4U
hmm... it seems theres another related bug: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=265828
llbbl
QUOTE
can you please stop saying firefox, 1. it's not the engine, 2. you only had to say it once.


Well maybe whoever started the thread should have put the correct browser engines in your choices to vote them people wouldn't be confused.

It's not too late to edit it if there was a moderator paying attention.

I think already I pointed this out several pages ago.
Kaidiir
I still like IE.
mostly because i "grew up" with it...but my router firewall and Norton Internet Security, Spybot S&D and Ad-Aware protect me from all the nastiness. as for tabs...I used firefox for some time and i found them irritating for some reason.....ehh. i use alt+tab to switch windows...or sometimes i just *gasp* move the mouse up to the taskbar and select the other window....
MAdbUSU
QUOTE(rm20010 @ Jun 25 2005, 00:10)
Just a matter of user preference. Although I would assume a good percent of that 62% is not because they find the engine better for their needs, it's only because of rampant fanboyism.

BTW to save you some face, some of your claims in your post are unrealistic. One, I haven't heard of 1.05 released yet (or it's a beta, I dunno). Two, your other two claims seem to come from using Internet Explorer.  whistle.gif
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bla bla ....i think i can make the difference between IE and FF
and the FF 1.0.5 take a look
if can show me ..how u resume a transfer if u close the ff u are the best
whistle.gif
rm20010
QUOTE(MAdbUSU @ Jun 25 2005, 14:48)
bla bla ....i think i can make the difference between IE and FF
and the FF 1.0.5 take a look
if can show me ..how u resume a transfer if u close the ff u are the best
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That's what happens when I don't use Firefox on a regular basis for like two to three weeks. biggrin.gif
Kr0z
IE - it views every web page I go to without errors or messed up layout.
陳忍者
IE2, generally has tabbed browsing too and loads way faster then the other browsers too tongue.gif
Elliott
QUOTE(psychoticpickle @ Jun 26 2005, 20:29)
IE - it views every web page I go to without errors or messed up layout.
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Go to my web page. Messed up layout in IE, right? In Firefox, it's fine. In Safari, it's fine. In Opera, it's fine. My site has valid CSS and near-valid XHTML (besides a custom input style I use that's not in the XHTML spec). Sounds like IE isn't perfect anymore, huh? tongue.gif
blowMeNeo
Anything without ActiveX.
rm20010
QUOTE(jagedEdge @ Jun 29 2005, 22:58)
Go to my web page. Messed up layout in IE, right? In Firefox, it's fine. In Safari, it's fine. In Opera, it's fine. My site has valid CSS and near-valid XHTML (besides a custom input style I use that's not in the XHTML spec). Sounds like IE isn't perfect anymore, huh? tongue.gif
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OK, your site is in the small handful of sites that screw up in IE. It might look better if only IE supported PNG transparency. pinch.gif

(OT: your site looks nice. besides that, it's one of the few where the scrolling feels smoother in Firefox versus Opera.)
GhostShell
I think Gecko.
Bhav
QUOTE(psychoticpickle @ Jun 27 2005, 02:29)
IE - it views every web page I go to without errors or messed up layout.
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that's because sites are developed with IE in mind. it shouldn't be like that because IE doesn't conform to standards properly.

web pages that are coded properly, following standards, will look like they're supposed to in firefox. if it doesn't, then it's crappy coding.
zastroz
hehe nice. Everyones missing the point. MYIE2 is good and the new Maxathon is better. Exactly like IE except tabbed browsing, loads faster, more options, set game and match.
vcv
QUOTE(zastroz @ Jul 11 2005, 16:19)
hehe nice. Everyones missing the point. MYIE2 is good and the new Maxathon is better. Exactly like IE except tabbed browsing, loads faster, more options, set game and match.
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Wow. You accuse others of missing the point, then totally miss it yourself. That's a shame.

This thread is for best browser ENGINE. MYIE2 and Maxathon use IE's engine, therefore your favorite engine would be IE (Trident).
StaticFish
QUOTE(zastroz @ Jul 11 2005, 21:19)
hehe nice. Everyones missing the point. MYIE2 is good and the new Maxathon is better. Exactly like IE except tabbed browsing, loads faster, more options, set game and match.
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and its game, set match rolleyes.gif
mzhao
QUOTE
IE - it views every web page I go to without errors or messed up layout.


WRONG.

I vote Gecko. It renders valid code correctly in most cases. KHTML is a little bit more standards-compliant, but that leads to broken pages that aren't valid (many page aren't, yet). Opera's OK, but some sites break in it, I've read. And IE's just way off the standards.
Rahul
gecko
Orange
Firefox all the way.. used to be on IE but once i got fed up with the amount of times IE had problems i found Firefox and never looked back.
Even if IE 7 is about to come out soon i wont even check that out.
worbd
Presto (used in Opera): Smaller, faster. Firefox is not a browser engine...
rm20010
QUOTE(worbd @ Jul 20 2005, 04:22)
Presto (used in Opera): Smaller, faster. Firefox is not a browser engine...
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True, but those that mention Opera and IE as 'engines' are just as guilty as well.

The poll should've read:

Trident (IE)
Presto (Opera)
Gecko (Mozilla)
KHTML
vcv
QUOTE(rm20010 @ Jul 20 2005, 13:21)
True, but those that mention Opera and IE as 'engines' are just as guilty as well.

The poll should've read:

Trident (IE)
Presto (Opera)
Gecko (Mozilla)
KHTML
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IE, yes. Opera, no. Opera is the only browser that uses it's engine. Now if the person says "Opera because of mouse gestures!", then they are indeed an idiot.
rm20010
QUOTE(vcv @ Jul 20 2005, 15:02)
IE, yes. Opera, no.  Opera is the only browser that uses it's engine.  Now if the person says "Opera because of mouse gestures!", then they are indeed an idiot.
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Well this poll was named 'Definitive Best Browser Engine.' True, Opera's the only browser that uses Presto, but we're voting on engines, not browsers.
vcv
QUOTE(rm20010 @ Jul 20 2005, 21:03)
Well this poll was named 'Definitive Best Browser Engine.' True, Opera's the only browser that uses Presto, but we're voting on engines, not browsers.
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I don't disagree with you.
rootwiler
Opera.
AppleDave
QUOTE(rootwiler @ Jul 20 2005, 21:42)
Opera.
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Engines, not browsers. Presto is the Opera Engine, Gecko is the Mozilla Engine...etc.
RebelFX
Gecko.

I've been using Firefox since Mozilla decided to change the browser's name to FF, so a year and a half.

I'm still using IE at work tho. biggrin.gif
iOsiris
Firefox, life gets better once you stop using IE.
rm20010
QUOTE(iOsiris @ Jul 29 2005, 23:45)
Firefox, life gets better once you stop using IE.
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You've got serious personal issues if your definition of 'life' means 'the life away from my computer' tongue.gif
kimandsally
New to Firefox today wife doesn't like it but I'm not sure yet.
Quillz
I'd really like to say Gecko, but until the majority of the web follows web standards, I'm going to have to stick with the Trident (IE) engine.
root
Gecko is my favorite browser engine, but Opera is my favorite browser.

Opera running Gecko would kick ass.
Axel
Used firefox for about a year and I've tired of it, the interface feels so plasticy for some reason. Right now I'm using Internet Explorer 7, and I'm liking it so far. I reckon the best browser is actually Opera.
Elliott
QUOTE(Axel @ Jul 30 2005, 18:10)
Used firefox for about a year and I've tired of it, the interface feels so plasticy for some reason.  Right now I'm using Internet Explorer 7, and I'm liking it so far.  I reckon the best browser is actually Opera.
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That's nice, but everything you said was about the browsers. This is the engine we're polling and not the browser itself.
Commodore Max
Here's my Top 3:

3rd: IE
2nd: Opera
1st: Firefox

illicit
QUOTE(Glass @ Aug 3 2005, 09:50)
Here's my Top 3:

3rd: IE
2nd: Opera
1st: Firefox
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I wouldn't say there is a best browser engine but if I had to choose, that's how I would rate them also.
Samoa
IE
Firefox
Opera


IMO
DarkCircuit
AVANT BROWSER - Dunno, just like it this month.

I switch fluckin browsers like every ten mins.
For war though, Id have to say I use the Gecko engine. Dont ask. shifty.gif
Jase
Currently using Opera now... and loving it.
KTamas
Gecko, but KHTML has a big potential too...
seta-san
currently really anything but IE. Not because it doesn't have tabbed browsing(i never use it), not because it's integrated in the UI thus a security threat(a feature i still love), not because i'm using linux (because windows harddrive melted) but just because it's so damned far from the standards. Every browser should at the very least strive to pass the Acid tests, not because it's the be all test out there, but because it stands as a fair to decent ruler to see which browser camp actually cares to update their browsers in meaningful ways. Tabbed browser this, disable plugins that, every camp shouts out the greatness of their extra features, but what about BASIC FUNCTIONALITY? No one seems to care so long as they can mess around with what ever ******ized version of the standards their working with to tweak their pages to look right.
PricklyPoo
I cant figure out why people like firefox it is sucks and is much slower than the other browsers. I would just go with IE
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