As far as these beats go, a TRUE Pac fan hears no beat! Pac's NEVER needed a beat. That's just one of the many things that separated him from the rest.
Now, I voted NO. Pac's sh!t should NEVER be changed. One this is to add a beat to his original material, but to alter actual word-play?!?!?! That sh!t ain't Pac. Eminem lost respect points on my end.
Trips me out how everyone till this day are leechin off his name and hard work. All these cats today are nothing but Pac-Wannabees, too stupid to realize that even if they edit his words, sample his voice, or plain out BITE his material... They'll NEVER be Pac, or come close. Em needs to stick to what he does best, sweat Kim, love his daughter, and just be silly.
Full Version: 2pac - Loyal To The Game
Seems like we have a pretty solid argument here. I would have to tend to agree that Slim's production leaves something to be desired but at the same time Afeni looked over the project. And if the project doesn't make me or any other devout 2Pac fans happy (which i think we can agree it doesn't) well I think we have to suck it up and appreciate it for what it is. I do not even come close to having a big enough ego to say that my opinion on a 2Pac album is right and his mother's is not.
As for Em, well....he is a fan (maybe a Stan?) when it comes to Pac and you can't blame dude for trying. One of the perks of being a celebrity is one day getting the chance to work with someone who influnced you, and this is the closest old Marshall will ever get.
As for Em, well....he is a fan (maybe a Stan?) when it comes to Pac and you can't blame dude for trying. One of the perks of being a celebrity is one day getting the chance to work with someone who influnced you, and this is the closest old Marshall will ever get.
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You couldn't be more right. They ALL are nothing but lil Stans pullin' on Pac's... well you know.Off Topic: You can tell this is some real old Pac material by how he sounds and flows as he did back in Strictly for my n.i.g.g.a.z. and 2Pacalypse. The man was way before his time. Look how we are still banging his oldest material as if it were new.
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I like all Eminems music. So go **** yourself.
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...but apart from that...yes... you may like what Eminem does...
but there's two thing in life...
1- Eminem doesn't make hip hop music... he makes MTV crap joke, supposedly funny rapitirap music... or so called pop music.
2- Eminem being a all-star doesn't give him the right to crap someone else music just because, he, himself makes crap, circus music.
okay!
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Off Topic: You can tell this is some real old Pac material by how he sounds and flows as he did back in Strictly for my n.i.g.g.a.z. and 2Pacalypse. The man was way before his time. Look how we are still banging his oldest material as if it were new.
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I have always believed that. Every "new" Pac cd that has come out his lyrics have always fit the beat and fit the time. He really knew what he was doing when he recorded his verses.
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did you even buy the cd or just downloaded it? obviously not because if you did you would have opened the cover and fliped through eventually coming to the thank you by Afeni Shakur and i quote "the gift of generosity given to me by a young man who not only asked for nothing in return for his services, but refused to accept anything i offered" this is obviously Eminem because at the end she says "i must personally thank Marshall Mathers"
on top of that all you b*t*hing about the producer this or that the cd reads executive producers Afeni Shakur (first) and Eminem (second) and i think that his mom knows whats best for his memory
now go put on some Makaveli gear (also done by Afeni) and buy a brick
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on top of that all you b*t*hing about the producer this or that the cd reads executive producers Afeni Shakur (first) and Eminem (second) and i think that his mom knows whats best for his memory
now go put on some Makaveli gear (also done by Afeni) and buy a brick
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First off: I dont belive that much but if its true then second off is whats up
Second off: Do you accually think that G-Unit, 50 Cent, and Obie Trice dont get paid for their sh*t? And guess who owns their ass. Yep thats right Eminem so he gets a portion of whatever they get as well. Boom Eminem gets paided while making the public think he didnt.
Third Off: This is the one disc that Afeni did not do whats best for her son, her son's fans, and just hip-hop in general.
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did you even buy the cd or just downloaded it? obviously not because if you did you would have opened the cover and fliped through eventually coming to the thank you by Afeni Shakur and i quote "the gift of generosity given to me by a young man who not only asked for nothing in return for his services, but refused to accept anything i offered" this is obviously Eminem because at the end she says "i must personally thank Marshall Mathers"
on top of that all you b*t*hing about the producer this or that the cd reads executive producers Afeni Shakur (first) and Eminem (second) and i think that his mom knows whats best for his memory
now go put on some Makaveli gear (also done by Afeni) and buy a brick
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on top of that all you b*t*hing about the producer this or that the cd reads executive producers Afeni Shakur (first) and Eminem (second) and i think that his mom knows whats best for his memory
now go put on some Makaveli gear (also done by Afeni) and buy a brick
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i posted the entire letter.
anyways.. executive producer or not his voice should have never been changed. everytime i hear a track i get this "empty" feeling that somehow its really no tupac, knowing eminem somehow messed with it makes me feel uneasy. This CD won't last long in my car.
if you feel that way towards a cd, please go outside...
Word. I listened to this cd for about 2 weeks straight lol. I love it. Now it's Games documentary (advance) can't wait for the full cd. Bring on 2005 
i posted the breakdown of the tracks on page 7.
obviously there's some crappy beats and remixes while others that are pretty good but some have been butchered. Something like "ghetto gospel" is brilliant but Em pretty much copy and pasted Pac words and cut out 2 verses! That makes me angry like I dont understand why he didn't get Pac to spit out the 4 verses and let Elton John do his thing on the hook? whatev, i'm still bumping this cd in my car cuz a true Pac fan knows its all about the words just like previously mentioned.
-n. f.
p.s. i'm starting to let go of the fact that some of these tracks have been butchered. and to the comment about SUGE knight, if it wasn't for Suge, we wouldn't have more than half of the songs released after Pac's death so big props to Suge although he's a fat ****ing ******! One more thing, with suge being there, pac recorded MAKAVELI in 7 days... and that's my fav. Pac CD.
obviously there's some crappy beats and remixes while others that are pretty good but some have been butchered. Something like "ghetto gospel" is brilliant but Em pretty much copy and pasted Pac words and cut out 2 verses! That makes me angry like I dont understand why he didn't get Pac to spit out the 4 verses and let Elton John do his thing on the hook? whatev, i'm still bumping this cd in my car cuz a true Pac fan knows its all about the words just like previously mentioned.
-n. f.
p.s. i'm starting to let go of the fact that some of these tracks have been butchered. and to the comment about SUGE knight, if it wasn't for Suge, we wouldn't have more than half of the songs released after Pac's death so big props to Suge although he's a fat ****ing ******! One more thing, with suge being there, pac recorded MAKAVELI in 7 days... and that's my fav. Pac CD.
can any one tell me where i can download it
http://music.msn.com download and buy it 
QUOTE(Mx² @ Dec 28 2004, 14:56)
for free??
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Third Off: This is the one disc that Afeni did not do whats best for her son, her son's fans, and just hip-hop in general.
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thank you, this is just her way to cash in on her son's fame. LAME
DOES ANYONE KNOW WHERE I CAN FIND HOW MANY ALBUMS 2PAC HAS SOLD... AND BIGGIE? IF U KNO WHERE I CAN FIND THIS INFORMATION PLEASE EMAIL ME AT iverson3_707@hotmail.com
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DOES ANYONE KNOW WHERE I CAN FIND HOW MANY ALBUMS 2PAC HAS SOLD... AND BIGGIE? IF U KNO WHERE I CAN FIND THIS INFORMATION PLEASE EMAIL ME AT iverson3_707@hotmail.com
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