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DreAming in DigITal
As many of you know I'm a huge VA Tech fan...And they just won the ACC Outright!! Many said they wouldn't win 4 games in the big bad ACC....Welp, How do you like the Hokies now??? I just hade to gloat!!! smile.gif Playing Auburn (likely) won't be fun no.gif
BroChaos
too bad both teams looked awful. how many turnovers in the game? miscues? offenses were pathetic. and neither even have good defense, in fact, miami has one of the worst d's in the nation. definitely a down year for the ACC. people gave tOSU a hard time after dropping out of the rankings within 2 years...looks like miami is gonna have some issues now too.

oh yeah, and there was never such thing as the big bad acc wink.gif
acc has always been a joke of a conference.

congrats on the bowl birth though.
DreAming in DigITal
A joke of a conference??? VA Tech, Miami, Virginia, Florida State????? Do you watch football???? Va Tech has one of the best defenses in the NATION!!! Also one of the top scoring Defenses! Jesus...It was a sloppy game though.
DreAming in DigITal
Oh by the way...I guess a down year means 4 teams in the top 25? Thats rough...
soLoredd
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Now the Gators will play Miami in the Peach Bowl. Looks like this disappointing season can be salvaged with the win over FSU, getting Urban Meyer as coach, and possibly beating another in-state rival.

Gator football is BACK!!!!
L3thal
QUOTE(DreAming in DigITal @ Dec 4 2004, 18:09)
Va Tech has one of the best defenses in the NATION!!! Also one of the top scoring Defenses!
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You are correct with those statements. VT has allowed 15 TD's in 12 games this year, a remarkable feat if you think about it. Have you thought that you could've gone undefeated? First, if the refs didn't call that offensive pass interference against VT vs. USC in the first week (what a horrible call), you would've won that game, being as you would be up by 3 TD's. Then, against NC State, you missed the FG with seconds left in the game. If you would've pulled those two off, you would've gone undefeated.



D!ABOL!C
They still suck at basketball
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I like the Hokie Pokies, congrats to them. I'm just glad Miami didnt win...
ChicoCahill
whats sad is pittsburgh is going to get a bcs bid because the big east is aweful
L3thal
QUOTE(ChicoCahill @ Dec 5 2004, 02:20)
whats sad is pittsburgh is going to get a bcs bid because the big east is aweful
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They will face Utah (sense a blowout?) laugh.gif
DreAming in DigITal
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You are correct with those statements. VT has allowed 15 TD's in 12 games this year, a remarkable feat if you think about it. Have you thought that you could've gone undefeated? First, if the refs didn't call that offensive pass interference against VT vs. USC in the first week (what a horrible call), you would've won that game, being as you would be up by 3 TD's. Then, against NC State, you missed the FG with seconds left in the game. If you would've pulled those two off, you would've gone undefeated.


Yea I've thought about that before...they would probably be ranked 3 or 4 in the nation. But I can understand them losing to USC (even though the pass interference call lost the game for them) but they should have never lost to NC State. I just love that fact that they were being picked to finish 6th and they win the whole thing punk.gif After seeing Auburn play tonight against Tennesse I think Va Tech is going to be able to give them a good game.
k311
QUOTE(soloredd @ Dec 4 2004, 22:20)
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Now the Gators will play Miami in the Peach Bowl. Looks like this disappointing season can be salvaged with the win over FSU, getting Urban Meyer as coach, and possibly beating another in-state rival.

Gator football is BACK!!!!
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we WILL beat miami in the peach bowl and show everyone 'just how they do things down there' biggrin.gif
Toxikk
woot. i love it. go va.
BroChaos
QUOTE(DreAming in DigITal @ Dec 4 2004, 17:09)
A joke of a conference??? VA Tech, Miami, Virginia, Florida State????? Do you watch football???? Va Tech has one of the best defenses in the NATION!!! Also one of the top scoring Defenses! Jesus...It was a sloppy game though.
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you honestly think miami, virginia and FSU are good teams this year?
first of all, lets start with VaTech:
you lose to #1 12-0 USC practically at home.
you lose to 5-6 NC State at home.
you beat 6-5 north carolina by 3 on the road.

fsu, virginia, and miami are all 3 loss teams. how do you consider that good?
DreAming in DigITal
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you honestly think miami, virginia and FSU are good teams this year?
first of all, lets start with VaTech:
you lose to #1 12-0 USC practically at home.
you lose to 5-6 NC State at home.
you beat 6-5 north carolina by 3 on the road.

fsu, virginia, and miami are all 3 loss teams. how do you consider that good?



haha you joking right??? The ACC pounded the CRAP out of each other all year long! Out off all four of those teams (Va Tech, Miami, Florida State, and Virginia) they only lost 2 out of conference games....??? Don't get me started on Michigan either...those dudes are a joke...They lost to an unranked Notre Dame and to a VERY overranked Ohio State...Here look...this is a football...



BroChaos
ND and OSU, two of the most storied programs in college football (the acc doesn't have any) on the ROAD. you lost twice at home. no argument. try harder.
kak
QUOTE(BroChaos @ Dec 5 2004, 22:56)
ND and OSU, two of the most storied programs in college football (the acc doesn't have any) on the ROAD.  you lost twice at home.  no argument.  try harder.
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the refs called a few good calls for you vs wvu too. espn guys were pointing it out all game. vt doesn't deserve to win anything.
BroChaos
well, we got Michigan vs. Texas in the Rose Bowl.
Auburn vs. VaTech in the Sugar Bowl.

vatech fans better start praying...

in terms of conference strength, big 10, big 12, and sec are all above the acc. i'd put you guys above the pac 10. and i'm speaking in terms of toughest from top to bottom.
DreAming in DigITal
How could you possible say that the Big 10, Big 12 and SEC are all above the ACC?? Big 10, Big 12, and ACC all have 4 teams in the top 25...and the SEC has 5 in the top 25 (with two more teams than the ACC). By the way the average rank of those four in the ACC is 13.25...the average rank of the 4 in the big 10 is 17th...and the average rank of the four in the Big 12 is 13.5...The SEC has the best average national rank of 11.8...so it looks to be like the SEC is the best, then ACC, then Big 12, and then the Big 10.
DreAming in DigITal
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the refs called a few good calls for you vs wvu too. espn guys were pointing it out all game. vt doesn't deserve to win anything.


West Virginia loses no matter what because when the game is over they have to go back to West Virginia...haha J/K!!! tongue.gif rofl.gif

Just some Virginia/West Virginia humor smile.gif
kak
For how long we'll see. The reason the ACCs rankings look good right now is because they picked up Miami and VT up in their prime. I would have liked to see what VT's qb for next year looked like. He really can't be much worse than Randall (inconsistent as ****).
DreAming in DigITal
/\ It's Marcus Vick...He kind of TORE UP Miami Last year...when he wasn't having sex with minors smile.gif
BroChaos
QUOTE(DreAming in DigITal @ Dec 5 2004, 18:20)
How could you possible say that the Big 10, Big 12 and SEC are all above the ACC?? Big 10, Big 12, and ACC all have 4 teams in the top 25...and the SEC has 5 in the top 25 (with two more teams than the ACC). By the way the average rank of those four in the ACC is 13.25...the average rank of the 4 in the big 10 is 17th...and the average rank of the four in the Big 12 is 13.5...The SEC has the best average national rank of 11.8...so it looks to be like the SEC is the best, then ACC, then Big 12, and then the Big 10.
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those were in no particular order. i don't care about average ranking. yeah, i would agree, right now, the sec is probably the toughest. too bad auburn had to schedule some div 1AA teams for their OOC games.

1-3 are big 10, big 12 and sec. order changes from time to time. #4 is acc, #5 is pac 10. acc is a basketball conference.
kak
QUOTE(DreAming in DigITal @ Dec 5 2004, 23:34)
/\ It's Marcus Vick...He kind of TORE UP Miami Last year...when he wasn't having sex with minors smile.gif
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I seriously doubt VT is going to take him back. He was kicked out of school anyways, doesn't that take away a year of eligibility?
Hurmoth
realmad.gif I hate Virginia Tech... stupid farming school sick.gif

UVA wub.gif
DreAming in DigITal
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I seriously doubt VT is going to take him back. He was kicked out of school anyways, doesn't that take away a year of eligibility?


Yea he's definately coming back...He's been back to blacksburg several times this year and he's down in Atlanta working out with Michael. As far as eligiblility goes I think he does lose a year...but he will still have two years left.

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I hate Virginia Tech... stupid farming school 

UVA


haha you should check out this link...Linky smile.gif
DreAming in DigITal
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ND and OSU, two of the most storied programs in college football (the acc doesn't have any) on the ROAD.  you lost twice at home.  no argument.  try harder


They may be "storied programs" but thats all they are...they suck a$$ this year. And Tech lost ONCE at home. Washington D.C. is 4 hours away from Tech...that is closer to UVA's home territory. Besides, it really doesn't matter WHERE you lose...if you lose you lose, there is no column for "away game loses". If you can't play good at an opponents home stadium then your program has no chance to begin with.
DreAming in DigITal
Oh an if you wanna talk about "storied programs" take a look at all the NFL players from Miami and Florida State (both ACC). And all the bowl rings between Miami, Va Tech, and Florida State. Also Va Tech has been in the Top 25 every year for the past 18 years...
L3thal
Big 10 started off as my #1 conference, but Purdue and Wisconsin just went down the gutter as the season ended. The best conference is the SEC followed by the Big 10 and Big 12. The ACC falls right behind those three.

BroChaos, Michigan isn't that great of a team either, they will lose to Texas. You guys lost to Notre Dame, barely beat San Diego St. (laugh.gif), barely beat Minnesota, barely beat Purdue (who had already lost its greatness), and got humiliated against Ohio St. You won by a combined 8 points in those three games I stated above blink.gif
BroChaos
behind a frosh qb and tb. give us a break wink.gif

they have matured. had hart played against ND, we would have won that one.
also, the blackshirts of SDSU are a good D, and again, were able to rattle a young qb.

minnesota is a decent team, purdue is still a decent team, and we came off with the wins.

now ohio st., no excuses. but again, remember that these are freshman in the 2 biggest positions.


now, texas is only there because of a made up pass intereference call against the might kansas jayhawks. oh, and texas gave up how many pts in one half to OkSt.? their passing game doesn't even exist, practically the worst in div 1a. we'll see what happens wink.gif


dreaming, you don't understand the concept of rivalry game. ND and OSU's main goals are to beat michigan. for the past year, every ND training activity had been done in reps of 31, just to remind them of the 31-0 loss to michigan a year ago. i'd love to see vatech go into notre dame stadium, or the shoe in columbus, and pull off a win. doens't matter who's supposed to be the better team. michigans last home loss? oct 26 2002. no excuses for losing at home to a team that has no business beating you.

you wanna talk bowl rings? one name, tom brady. we got just as many as you do, so please, keep trying smile.gif

and vatech has made 12 straight bowls, whopdee do. try 30.

there's nothing you can argue...the acc just isn't the conference you wish it was.
DreAming in DigITal
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BroChaos, Michigan isn't that great of a team either, they will lose to Texas. You guys lost to Notre Dame, barely beat San Diego St. (), barely beat Minnesota, barely beat Purdue (who had already lost its greatness), and got humiliated against Ohio St. You won by a combined 8 points in those three games I stated above 


lol...there are no excuses for that crap...don't try to make any either smile.gif


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dreaming, you don't understand the concept of rivalry game. ND and OSU's main goals are to beat michigan. for the past year, every ND training activity had been done in reps of 31, just to remind them of the 31-0 loss to michigan a year ago. i'd love to see vatech go into notre dame stadium, or the shoe in columbus, and pull off a win. doens't matter who's supposed to be the better team. michigans last home loss? oct 26 2002. no excuses for losing at home to a team that has no business beating you.


Not only would Va Tech go into Notre Dame Stadium and crush them but they would drag 30,000+ fans along with them when they do it. Same thing with Ohio State....what a joke, you've got to be kidding. Your right about Va Tech losing at home to NC State though, they had no business losing that game and I can't make up any stupid excuses for them. They lost.

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you wanna talk bowl rings? one name, tom brady. we got just as many as you do, so please, keep trying


Dude, Tom Brady is a decent QB so I'm not gonna argue that. But he also inherited a team full of guys that are pro bowl material. They would have been super bowl champs alot of other quarterbacks. If you wanna talk about QB's take a look at the Falcons and the guy who has revolutionized the position. That team sucks without him. He has no recievers, running backs, and an OK defense. They lose every game he doesn't play. He's the most valuable player to his team than any other player in the league and their respective teams.
BroChaos
yeah, vick had a great performance yesterday...rolleyes.gif
vick isn't revolutionizing jack, unless you mean inconsistency and the amount of turnovers a qb commits per game...
a mobile qb will never work in the pros. drew brees will get a ring before vick does.

i seriously hope you are joking about vatech walking into ND stadium or the shoe and crushing them, and there's no way you'd get 30,000 tickets for your fans. you are seriously misinformed on what it's like to play in those 2 stadiums. 100k+ fans at the shoe, 80k+ fans at ND. your players wouldn't know what to do...until you've played there, please don't act like you know what would happen.
costanza007
Silly ACC. Well, there are a few good programs, but overall i rank it around the Pac 10. VaTech had better be prepared for that Sugar Bowl because I can guarantee those Auburn Tigers/Plainsmen/WarEagles will be up for it.
DreAming in DigITal
I've been to Notre Dame and Ohio State and neither stadium is nearly as loud as Lane Stadium...

Btw...Brady only threw for 157 yards yesterday...Vick threw for 115 and ran for 81. shifty.gif

DreAming in DigITal
Actually none of this arguing really matters anyways...Virginia Tech is ranked 8th in the Nation and will be playing in the Sugar Bowl against the best team in the nation. And Michigan is ranked 13th and will play Texas. Both teams are gonna be playing against superior opponents...but Va Tech is ranked higher than Michigan...ahhhhh whistle.gif thumbs_up.gif
costanza007
Ahh, then if you want one of the most intimidating stadium atmospheres, try Death Valley (no, not Clemson) on a Saturday night against an SEC opponent.
b mitchell
ha, try the Swamp on a night against an SEC opponent or FSU.
BroChaos
QUOTE(DreAming in DigITal @ Dec 6 2004, 14:06)
Actually none of this arguing really matters anyways...Virginia Tech is ranked 8th in the Nation and will be playing in the Sugar Bowl against the best team in the nation. And Michigan is ranked 13th and will play Texas. Both teams are gonna be playing against superior opponents...but Va Tech is ranked higher than Michigan...ahhhhh  whistle.gif  thumbs_up.gif
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i could care less about your ranking. you have two losses. one at home, one on neutral (according to you, but really a home game in terms of crowd).
we have two losses, both on the road at 2 of the toughest stadiums in the country.

if you talk about your stadium being so tough and loud, then why did you lose at home this year? why did you lose at home twice last year? the shoe and ND are still tougher places to play than lane. and the rivalry games are still bigger than anythign your team will ever play in. you just can't compare losing those games on the road to VaTech losing to NC State at home.

but whatever, we'll talk more when the bowls are over wink.gif
although trash talking is fun smile.gif
DreAming in DigITal
haha this is true...I love a good college football debate biggrin.gif ...Have fun in Pasadena (if your going)...I'll be in "NAWLINS" watching boobies flying around everywhere hump.gif rofl.gif
L3thal
I love the trash talking tongue.gif

Too bad Nebraska had an off year hmm.gif
costanza007
QUOTE(pxleyes @ Dec 6 2004, 22:48)
ha, try the Swamp on a night against an SEC opponent or FSU.
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Quite true too. And of course Neyland ranks right up there too.
DreAming in DigITal
I think the last rankings I saw (according to decible levels reached) was Texas A&M, Neyland, and Lane Stadium were top 3.
BroChaos
i know michigan stadium isn't always the loudest, but you can't top us in terms of sheer numbers, and the overwhelming size of the stadium. as long as we don't lose at home, i don't care tongue.gif and we've been pretty good at winning there.
L3thal
QUOTE(BroChaos @ Dec 7 2004, 20:53)
but you can't top us in terms of sheer numbers, and the overwhelming size of the stadium.
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That stadium is just damn huge wacko.gif
DreAming in DigITal
Yea it's definatly huge...what does it seat now? Like 105,000?


Lane only seats about 70,000 right now, but they are doing construction on it again. They're tearing down the press boxes and adding an upper deck to each side of the stadium then putting the press boxes on top of them. Last year they added seating to one end zone and put a resturant and bar in. This is what it looks like now...so it'll be pretty nice when they finish...I think it'll seat around 85,000 next year? This is what it looks like now...

Edit: You can only see the "sunny side" of the stadium...the side you can't see is about twice as tall.
L3thal
QUOTE(DreAming in DigITal @ Dec 7 2004, 22:32)
Yea it's definatly huge...what does it seat now? Like 105,000?
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I think it's around 107,000 if I'm not mistaken.
BroChaos
yeah, our lowest attendance this year was 109,000+. all the others were 111,000+
it's insane....i really miss going to the games...
k311
QUOTE(BroChaos @ Dec 8 2004, 00:53)
i know michigan stadium isn't always the loudest, but you can't top us in terms of sheer numbers, and the overwhelming size of the stadium.  as long as we don't lose at home, i don't care tongue.gif  and we've been pretty good at winning there.
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nope, but our 90,000 are louder biggrin.gif wink.gif
b mitchell
QUOTE(k311 @ Dec 7 2004, 23:49)
nope, but our 90,000 are louder  biggrin.gif  wink.gif
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now that urban is on board, and i have yet to hear any negative comments from fans about him (after the press conference), i think we will get the swamp a rockin. O i cant wait.

Why cant the fall be all year round????
DreAming in DigITal
Yea...football season would be nice if they only took a week break and started all over again smile.gif I would be in heaven
stncttr908
QUOTE(L3thal @ Dec 6 2004, 23:25)
I love the trash talking tongue.gif 

Too bad Nebraska had an off year hmm.gif
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"Off year" just doesn't quite put it together. Going to a minor bowl game is an off year for your spoiled Husker faithful. laugh.gif

Take a look, the two Big East elite switch conferences, and it comes down to them in the final weekend of the season for the ACC title. Too bad my BC Eagles are going to get trounced when they get to the ACC next year.
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