ripgut
Dec 11 2004, 21:50
I recently did a complete install of FC3

on my 36gb raptor, and i have a seperate drive ( ntfs partittion) which is a160gb(master on prim IDE channel

) drive its has all my mp3's and wallpapers.

Is there anyway to access this software?

*please note* That i ama complete noob, and this is the first time EVER using Linux
ripgut
Dec 11 2004, 22:11
I pulled up the terminal and logged in as root and did a "cat /proc/filesystems"
I didnt see Ntfs in there so its safe to assume that i dont have an ntfs support?

can i somehow enable that? so that i can get to listen a few of my songs on this other drive?
Not sure about Fedora, but Mandrake auto mounts your other partitions for you.
I'm not sure if FC comes with ntfs support by default either.
I've actually downloaded and installed Fedora Core, but I didn't mess around with it too much.
I'm pretty sure someone here will know about ntfs support in Fedora Core.
I saw this in other post...
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the most easiest way to access NTFS partition from linux is by editing FSTAB file /etc/fstab ( backup this file if u havent edited it before).
this is example line of a partition place and the directory to be mounted in
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/dev/hda1 /myntfs (make this directory in linux) ntfs defaults,ro 0,0
ripgut
Dec 11 2004, 22:28
QUOTE(ZiUL @ Dec 11 2004, 15:24)
I saw this in other post...
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i dont quite understand that (yet)
when i go to to hardware browser in applications> systems tools> hardware browser>Hard drives.
I can see my 160 giger (hda5 ntfs, hda1 extended

), but how do i use this drive?
also i read on something about having to compile my kernel for ntfs support, do i need to do this?

and if so HOW?
markjensen
Dec 11 2004, 22:54
I think what you are running into is Red Hat's decision to avoid possible litigation from Microsoft for including NTFS support (after all Red Hat is the Linux corporate market leader in North America, and want to avoid risks that coudl put them under).
Look in Neowin's FAQs and HOWTOs to find this thread:
http://www.neowin.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=202924It should help.
You need to get the fedora 3 rpms for ntfs from here:
http://linux-ntfs.sourceforge.net/rpm/fedora3.html
ripgut
Dec 11 2004, 23:52
QUOTE(MrA @ Dec 11 2004, 16:08)
You need to get the fedora 3 rpms for ntfs from here:
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i did a "uname -r" and came up with :
2.6.9-1.649smp
do i have the right kernel?
markjensen
Dec 12 2004, 01:00
Do an update of everything. Use the up2date tool, or do a
yum update, or whatever it takes. This will make sure your kernel is current.
Then do a
uname -a and let's see what you have.
Note that each time you update the kernel, you will need to re-add NTFS support (I believe). So, might as well update now.
ripgut
Dec 12 2004, 01:45
QUOTE(markjensen @ Dec 11 2004, 18:00)
Do an update of everything. Use the up2date tool, or do a
yum update, or whatever it takes. This will make sure your kernel is current.
Then do a
uname -a and let's see what you have.
Note that each time you update the kernel, you will need to re-add NTFS support (I believe). So, might as well update now.

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did a "uname -a" and got this
Linux c66-235-36-231.sea2.cablespeed.com 2.6.9-1.649smp #1 SMP Fri Oct 29 00:55:56 EDT 2004 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux

i also did the up2date tool and im fully updated
markjensen
Dec 12 2004, 02:51
Not sure why your kernel looks so old...

the sourceforge page for ntfs has the following available:
2.6.9-1.
681_FC3
2.6.9-1.
678_FC3
2.6.9-1.
667and you are at
2.6.9-1.
649 ??
Not sure what is going on, but you have to have a match to install, and your kernel revision number is lower than what they list for FC3.
ripgut
Dec 12 2004, 03:14

is this correct? i just did another uname -a after rebooting
Linux localhost.localdomain 2.6.9-1.681_FC3smp #1 SMP Thu Nov 18 15:19:10 EST 2004 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux
karma_police
Dec 12 2004, 06:15
Did you download fedora core 3 for multiprocessors? if so get:
http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/linux-n...rr.3.3.i686.rpmif you dont then get:
http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/linux-n...rr.3.3.i686.rpmTo install the RPM, open the console and write rpm -ivh nameofRPM.rpm
ripgut
Dec 12 2004, 06:21
QUOTE(karma_police @ Dec 11 2004, 23:15)
Did you download fedora core 3 for multiprocessors? if so get:
http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/linux-n...rr.3.3.i686.rpmif you dont then get:
http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/linux-n...rr.3.3.i686.rpmTo install the RPM, open the console and write rpm -ivh nameofRPM.rpm
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karma_police
Dec 12 2004, 06:30
haha, just download the file from the first link and then open the console, terminal, whatever you wanna call it and write rpm -ivh nameOfTheRPMyouDownloaded.rpm
ripgut
Dec 12 2004, 08:37
QUOTE(karma_police @ Dec 11 2004, 23:30)
haha, just download the file from the first link and then open the console, terminal, whatever you wanna call it and write rpm -ivh nameOfTheRPMyouDownloaded.rpm
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did so, and got this
########################################### [100%]
package kernel-module-ntfs-2.6.9-1.681_FC3smp-2.1.20-0.rr.3.3 is already installed
karma_police
Dec 12 2004, 18:25
create a new directory in /mnt for example: /mnt/win-c and then do in the console:
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mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/win-c -t ntfs -r -o umask=0222
/dev/hda1 should be your windows partition but if you are not sure do:
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/sbin/fdisk -l
and you will get something like:
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Disk /dev/hda: 64 heads, 63 sectors, 4465 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 4032 * 512 bytes
Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
/dev/hda1 1 2125 4283968+ 07 NTFS/HPFS
/dev/hda2 2126 19851 35735616 0f Win95 Ext'd (LBA)
/dev/hda5 * 2126 4209 4201312+ 83 Linux
/dev/hda6 4210 4465 516064+ 82 Linux swap
Your windows partition is the NTFS one, if you have more than one you need to create another folder for each partition.
markjensen
Dec 12 2004, 21:45
QUOTE(karma_police @ Dec 12 2004, 01:15)
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I am wondering if using the SMP version is causing these sorts of headaches in finding the right packages...
ripgut
Dec 12 2004, 22:28
well my cpu supports hyperthreading

(P4 3ghz prescott)
karma_police
Dec 12 2004, 23:16
But SMP stands for Symetric Multi Processor - 2 processors not hyperthreading, somebody correct me if I'm wrong.
ripgut
Dec 12 2004, 23:21
QUOTE(karma_police @ Dec 12 2004, 16:16)
But SMP stands for Symetric Multi Processor - 2 processors not hyperthreading, somebody correct me if I'm wrong.
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well im just gonna go back to windows, and try to learn this on a seperate machine that i build in the future, I have NO CLUE WTF to do. thx for all your help guys. but i give up
QUOTE(karma_police @ Dec 12 2004, 18:16)
But SMP stands for Symetric Multi Processor - 2 processors not hyperthreading, somebody correct me if I'm wrong.
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You're right, but with HT, it looks like 2 cpus since you'd access each logical cpu the same way as a real SMP system.
@ripgut. Don't give up. Why don't you try another distro like Slackware or Mandrake or some other. Once you get the hang of it, you might even find it better and easier (*gasp*) than windows. The key is to not give up. I think you choose the wrong distro. FC3 has no mp3 or ntfs support because of some random legal crap. A different distro will have that stuff ready, out of the box.
ripgut
Dec 13 2004, 02:56
QUOTE(ripgut @ Dec 12 2004, 21:56)
As far as I know, linux doesn't change your BIOS settings or kill the CD drive so it couldn't have caused your PC to be unable to boot from CD.
This is how I got my NTFS partition to show up.
First thing I did was from the command line, as root I ran "fdisk -l"
I saw this:
/dev/hdb1 1 382 3068383+ 7 HPFS/NTFS
/dev/hdb2 383 5517 41246887+ 7 HPFS/NTFS
/dev/hdb3 * 5518 7414 15237652+ 83 Linux
/dev/hdb4 7415 7476 498015 f W95 Ext'd (LBA)
/dev/hdb5 7415 7476 497983+ 82 Linux swap
The partition I want to mount is /dev/hdb2
I then as root again I ran:
mkdir /mnt/windows (you can using something other then windows, thats upto you)
Then as root, I ran:
gedit /etc/fstab
and added this line:
/dev/hdb2 /mnt/windows ntfs ro,dmask=0222,fmask=0333 0 0
so now my /etc/fstab looks like this:
# /etc/fstab: static file system information.
#
# <file system> <mount point> <type> <options> <dump> <pass>
proc /proc proc defaults 0 0
/dev/hdb3 / ext3 defaults,errors=remount-ro 0 1
/dev/hdb5 none swap sw 0 0
/dev/hdc /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 ro,user,noauto 0 0
/dev/hdd /media/cdrom1 udf,iso9660 ro,user,noauto 0 0
/dev/fd0 /media/floppy0 auto rw,user,noauto 0 0
/dev/hdb2 /mnt/windows ntfs ro,dmask=0222,fmask=0333 0 0
As for your Windows issue, check to make sure your disk is clean and no scratches, also make sure that you don't have any loose cables in your case.
I've had strange problems with the Windows disk like that also. Like KxLiquid said, make sure the disk is clean. Try running it a couple of times, also. Sometimes these things disappear as mysteriously as they appeared.
Also, this is my 2 cents on the Linux thing. I know you've probably heard different opinions from a million people, but I would stick with Mandrake if I were you. It's just so easy to setup and run. It comes with ntfs support and mp3 support out of the box. Plus I know it like the back of my ass, so I can help you when you've got a problem
ripgut
Dec 13 2004, 22:19
QUOTE(chavo @ Dec 13 2004, 15:17)
I've had strange problems with the Windows disk like that also. Like KxLiquid said, make sure the disk is clean. Try running it a couple of times, also. Sometimes these things disappear as mysteriously as they appeared.
Also, this is my 2 cents on the Linux thing. I know you've probably heard different opinions from a million people, but I would stick with Mandrake if I were you. It's just so easy to setup and run. It comes with ntfs support and mp3 support out of the box. Plus I know it like the back of my ass, so I can help you when you've got a problem

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Thanks i appreaciate it