as the title says, i'm looking for a mp3player with an builtin hd of 1gb+ which supports mp3 (also vbr). any recommodations?
it shouldn't be too bulky either.

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detai...ronics&n=507846

Was about the cheapest I could find that was 1gb + and a hdd that plays MP3

Sorry but $200 wont get you far

Uh, there's a link right there on that page to a 5GB Rio Carbon for $209 ...

there is an Iriver flash player on newegg that holds 1GB

too lazy too link right now
just search iriver

my dad wants either: http://www.creative.com/products/product.a...15&product=4908

or

http://www.creative.com/products/product.a...4&product=10795

#2 has 5gb but it comes in red

get zen micro

or new iriver 5GB

it should also come with headphones (and maybe a remote)

iriver H320, great mp3 player + it looks cool!!!

the h320 is like $300. re-read: limit is $200

Out of those two, the Zen Micro. You could just order online if you can't find the colour you like in retail stores.

You should take a look at the Rio Carbon though. Depending on how you're going to use it, the Carbon might suit you much more than the Micro.

the rio carbon is like $250 here. and the creative zen 5gb is only $150, but only in red. all other colors cost $220+

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detai...e&s=electronics

^-- Zen Micro for $229, its down from $249

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00...6410589-9547114

^-- Creative Nomad Muvo 2 for $199

Creative Nomad MuVo² 1.5 GB: $136
Creative Zen Micro 5GB red: $144

but uhm. does any of those 2 support mp3 vbr? or just mp3?

Muvo 2 - Playback Formats MP3, WMA and WAV

Zen Micro - Audio Support MPEG Audio Layer 3 (MP3), Windows Media™ Audio (WMA) and WAV

Sounds like just MP3 , no VBR

means i need to encode my mp3s using a static bitrate? aw crap.

Yup unfortunately you do unless you can get more money?

well my dad just wants a mp3player to play his russian lessons. but all, really all my mp3s are vbr and i don't want to re-rip my cds.

Zen Micro is the best Sub 10GB Player at the moment.

Tiny too.

I love mine, Highly recommended.

You could get a program easily to convert it all for you overnight?

convert 180gb of mp3s? no thank you.

You could wait for the iriver h10, it is 5gb and supports mp3 vbr I know for sure. I don't know how much it will be for you though, so I'm just throwing in ideas really, it might be over your limit

Yup it will be over his limit unfortunately, 180gb music and only want a mp3 player roughtly 4gb? Damn thats alot of music unless their all really high quality

well i dont want to listen to all my ripped cds. but i only found one mp3player that plays vbr and it's bulky. let's see if hypoman responds

i've just checked it out - the iriver h10 is around 299€ here in germany...so, it's over his limit

Which is that?

Archos Gmini 120 SP 20GB



MP3, VBR, WMA, WAV • USB2.0 • 68x78x23 mm • 170g

EDIT: the creative zen plays MP3, MP3(30 to 320 Kbps-VBR), WMA
i guess i'll order one then

According to the site it dosent do VBR unless their keeping it basic (Creative Zen 20gb USB 2.0)

well hypoxiaicon is going to try putting some vbr mp3s on his creative zen. we'll see

Please post the results

gonna get the Creative Nomad MuVo² 4.0 GB for $175 sine the creative zen isn't available anymore (for under $200)

The Zen Micro remote costs about $20.


Who has the Micro for that cheap?



All my MP3s are VBR and play fine.

I can confirm that VBR mp3 work on my Muvo2. I know they also work on the zen micro and almost any other mp3 player sold within the last few years

opaul: it's was a few leftover red players from a sale. they're all gone by now.