I'm undecided...

I have this pc, and I have a mac (though ym mam has taken over that) but this looks mighty nice, and if its really quiet..oh my...sold nearly.

What about the rest of you?

Andd WHY DID THEY RIP OFF THE UK AGAIN AGHHHHHHHH

It looks horrid, would have preffered it to look like the fake pics that were released. As long as its not stupidly overpriced here in the uk ill probably get one.

nope

I'll stick with my 20" iMac.

And they didn't rip off the UK nearly as much as usual.

It's a nice idea, but only if you have a screen etc for it. If I were to get one, I'd be £520 on top of the price listed with upgrades, and that's without buying a screen.

Actually, if you factor in VAT (17.5%), the price in the UK is broadly the same as that in the US.

I dont get how they can achieve such high res displays with a naff old 32MB graphics display on a digital panel... anyone care to explain? Will using it at the highest res kill it off ?

Yeah, most people seem to forget about that. (I didn't mention it, as I hadn't checked to be sure)

apple controls the hardware platform, and the software that runs on the hardware platform.
even though its only 32 megs, they're the ones writing the drivers, and everything for the hardware.
thus it works more efficently. (atleast in an ideal world)

i knew a year ago that they were going to do the whole mini thing.
wish i had bought stock. but it'll be a great little media-center box for me.
plus i devlop a little, so i'll be working with OpenDarwin on it.. (and of course, the best os in the world, Gentoo Linux )

with the whole ipod shuffle joke though, they're selling the "brand" and not the hardware.
i'd perfer to atleast have a monocrome ticker display, to know the song im playing and other junk. like hell
but whatever works.

I cant justify buying one unless I need one, and I really dont need one
HOWEVER, my family's PC craps out a lot (most of the time user error or hardware failure.. or both) so Im thinking about getting this for them.

-- accidental double post, neowin is erroring out on me.

no, they look quite ugly, especially the plain front, nice idea but i would never use their OS

I think they look quite sleek, im still asking questions about it, if they are sutable, and / or out perform windows boxs on watching DVD's, music, etc..

Cos if they do ill save up for this + a new monitor

dave164

No, I can live with my current PowerBook G4 until the PowerBook G5 is released.

yep, one with WLAN, BT and some extra RAM.
Too bad the power switch is on the back, I think it would've been more useful on the front side

if it will equip with tiger and a gf 6xxx or ati xxxx card, then definately.

NO - PC fan here

Once they drop in Tiger, I may consider it for a secondary Mac system. I already have an eMac, and happy with that. The answer is probably no though.

I think the mac mini's market targets women (wannabes, those ones think they live in sex and the city) and school kids for their first computer, i think one thing apple just missed is the xmas, it will be very popular then

edit, sorry i meant it would be very popular then

Maybe

It's design is nice but I'd definitely get an iMac G5 before the Mini.

but if you're using VAT you need to first subract the US sales tax

Why get a Mini after you get an iMac? Or for a secondary computer?

hmmm a cool media center me thinks

I was really eager to get one as this would be the perfect introductory Mac for me but I'm not so sure to be honest.

It will look ****e with my old CRT Monitor that I have at the moment but I plan to get a new slimline one fairly soon.

I've totted it up and my Mini Mac would come to £457. Specs are as follows:-

1.25 GHz
80 Gig
512 MB
Optical Drive
Wired Mouse & Keyboard

Not too bad I don't suppose. All I'll use it for is surfing the web, using iTunes with my iPod Mini and reading my email. Not a lot so it's probably not a bad deal. If I get on with Mac OSX then i'll probably get a much, much better system in the future.

i wouldnt mind getting one- but it all depends on the price in the UK. if its crazy- then a big NO- and would get a laptop instead-otherwise definatly..

I will wait till I see some reviews.
Just wish I could afford a Powerbook!

Eh... I had one all speced out and my credit card ready. But then I started having second thoughts about spending over 1000 (with 3rd party 1gb of ram and a 200gb firewire hdd) for a computer with a gpu that doesn't support core image in tiger. I am not sure how important core image actually is, but seeing as how I want a mac mostly for the prettiness factor of the os and hardware (the ease and elegance of use just makes me want it more), core image seems like it will be something that I want. If this thing had a gpu that was better suited for tiger then they would have sold me one today. I may have even taken the plunge if it had a 64mb gpu (I am not pleased with the peformance of things like expose on my friends 1.2ghz ibook with 768mb of ram), but I think I'd rather wait and see if the next revision supports tiger. Or just continue saving for a dual G5 rev C.

No. I don't think Mac has a broad enough software base for me.
You can get a more powerful PC from walmart ($199USD)

Honestly, I have never wanted to use a mac and the release of this tiny thing will surely not convince me to do so.

I've been a PC user my entire life so far. I'm starting to want to get a mac, but everytime it is just too expensive. People have been saying the mac mini is cheap, but really it isnt. When I can build my own PC or get a dell with a 3ghz P4, 200gb HD, 512mb ram, and a 17 inch LCD for $450 the mini just looks a tad bit expensive. If they just included a monitor....

128mb ram
20GB drive
CD-ROM drive
integrated 32mb drive
xandros os

Sickening. Plus that things design is no where near the Mac mini.

Anyway, once tiger releases, I'll def get it.

Yep, exactly my thoughts.

I was looking forward to getting a cheapish one. It would be my first Mac so obviously I don't want to spend a lot but after adding an extra 256 mb of ram, along with the keyboard and mouse it is still too expensive for me.

the walmart pc may suck, but its powerful enough to run its linux distro and with a bit more ram, would make an awesome computer for so little money.

The main complaint is that the mac mini isn't even powerful enough to run features of OSX correctly and has no monitor...thats not a deal...its a ripoff

If the OS will be upgradable then hell yeah, I'll buy it!

What features?

expose/iMovie/iDVD/iPhoto all need loads of RAM and not to mention the main Mac OS X its ram hungry....just keeps on eating it

I assure I ran all the aforementioned apps on my iBook with the same amount of RAM and a 1.2 ghz G4.

I can build a much better pc than that for $599. Plus it's just as hideous as the Shuffle.
Just my opinion, but I think the Shuffle is going to be a huge mistake for Apple.

well I am using all those apps on my 12" iBook G4 1.2GHz/768 MB RAM but there is a difference between can run and flawless performance which the mac mini isnot capable of. I've felt expose lagging, iMovie draggin system etc etc.
Ultimately those apps need some rugged system performance to use them practically. (it took my iBook about 2 hrs to encode a DVD from photo slideshows..about 10 with average 20 pics each)

um anybody in their right mind knows how to throw in third party ram and hard drives.
so that isnt an issue for me..
also, OSX is nice, but its slow imho. even on the super fast dual g5's..
i'd let gentoo linux own that box in no time.

but the main reason why i'd get one is to do some project work on OpenDarwin
which is really picky about x86 and doesn't like any of my 100+ x86 boxen.
thus my excuse.

I think Im going to get this. The 1gb version is basically cheap. Im going to use it just for photoshop anyway. And since I hace an external usb drive then I dont think Im going to have any problems with this.

Haha @ that pc beeing more powerful. Actually, more a

Have you ever looked up what kind of software youd want? Or do you just look on neowin

There is no real reason to get a mac. The only reason people usually get a mac is either for the OS or the looks of the case

expose lagging? er, what you running, i've had running word, all the officee's, and 4 qt movies and i'm on a g3 and expose has never lagged on me.

The processor architecture makes it a very nice plataform to design (I just learnt this in deep days ago)

Remember. A G4 @ 1.25Ghz its a lot better than an AMD or Intel's at the same speed.

Dude, Exposé lags. Different people have different conceptions to lag, but it lags. I have a pretty top of the line Mac, and after i've had so many apps running, Exposé animation becomes choppy. It doesn't effect it's useful-ness to me, but none-the-less, the animation appears to drop a good few frames...

Right. Have you done a survey that backs up this assertion?

I'm also a PC user thinking about getting a Mac mini. I am wondering how big of a hard drive I should get. How big is the Panther OS + iLife in terms of how much hard drive space it takes up? I tried searching and came up empty. If I get a 40 gig hd how much total space will I have left for other stuff. I heard the OS was as big as 10 gigs or something.. can someone clear this up for me?

im pretty sure that if you get a 40gb hard drive, +the loss from format + the os + default apps +extra default apps you are most likely looking at about 30gb free, but remember a good chunk of the first 10gb is lost to the annoying 40gb != 40gb formatting on all drive.

I just realized the one that comes with the 80gb also has a faster processor. Now my next question is RAM. Should I just get 256mb and get RAM somewhere else other than Apple? I'd really like a gig of ram but adding almost $400 to my total for it is insane. Where else could I get ram for less than that? It isn't that much is it?

Thanks.

I want to, but I got a PC.

I am still undecided as of right now. The thing that makes me undecided is I don't have a monitor for it and the Apple ones are nice, but expensive. Also, I haven't really read into it, so I'm not sure if it is upgradable. Is it?

In the future, I will be getting a Mac, but not sure yet if it will be a Mini.