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ovenmitt
2s2k
damn, a R32 costs like €43 000 here...

that's like $52 000
Anaron
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I drive the same car, but it's Navy Blue.
Wommers
Quote - (2s2k @ Apr 2 2006, 19:14) [snapback]587377342[/snapback]

damn, a R32 costs like €43 000 here...

that's like $52 000


is that an '04 or a new one at that price? they sold just 5k of the '04 r32 here in the states (750 of those in the deep metallic blue) so value is actually hovering 'round 30k. also '04 the only year sold here. seen a few listed here going for asking price as high as $38,995. ohmy.gif picked mein up for just under 30k with vw certified warranty til 2010/74k miles. i am very happy with it, but at 52k? blink.gif that ain't workin. no.gif
venezian
seeing that venture van..

do you guys remember when they made that chevy lumina van? and now they have that other van along with saturn and buick?


WHAT THE ****... WHAT THE **** WERE THEY THINKING WHEN THEY DECIDED TO BUILD THAT?

the venture is actually decent.. how do you go from absolute crap to something nice and then **** all over it?
couture
Quote - (Wommers @ Apr 1 2006, 14:06) [snapback]587373240[/snapback]

took a few quick pics of mein r32

General Information
Year 2004
Manufacturer Volkswagen
Model Golf
Trim R32
Body Type Hatchback
Base MSRP $27,995 USD
Curb Weight 3,256 lbs.

Engine / Transmission
Type 3.2 Liter
Cylinders 6
Horsepower 241 @ 6250 RPM
Torque 236 @ 2800 RPM
Redline 7000 RPM
Drive Train Front Engine / AWD
Gear Type 6-Speed Manual

Performance
0-60 mph 5.8 sec
0-100 mph -----
¼ Mile 14.2 @ 97.8 mph
Top Speed 153 mph
Gas Mileage 19 MPG City / 26 MPG Highway


whats the car on the side a lexus?
illmonkey
2001 Mini cooper.

Used to drive a Clio.
coolmonk
2001 Lexus IS300 3.0L Inline 6 215hp in White Diamond Pearl
Currently has approximately 60,000 miles as of 4/21/06.





venezian
that is beautiful^ big props to you on keeping it clean.
SoulSphere
1999 Acura 3.2 TL Silver.
Etc.
2006 Audi A3 2.0T
Max™



Finally got round to taking some pics, shame the steering wheel was turned.

2003 Volkswagen Polo E 1.2L - 55bhp. Manual.
39,700 miles. 45 litre tank. 41.25 litres (aka generally full to empty tank) usually does me just over 400 miles/650ish kilometres.
BigPaul2006
2006 Flint Mica Scion tC

iMoth
^looks nice
Dale
my newest ride!

http://photo-origin.tickle.com/image/96/8/...1O579672269.jpg
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the pics are waay too big to post on neowin. so i'm just going to give you links.. I hope you enjoy the pictures as much as i enjoy driving this beauty

a 1979 Honda Hawk. I still drive the 1985 Buick Skyhawk as posted way earlier in this thread, although the body on it has got a lot worse since my pictures of it, I probably will be replacing the Skyhawk any month now.

So i have a motorcycle & a car biggrin.gif
Mike Mayer
POS car. (just like the song...)


1986 Chrysler 5th Avenue Edition
5.2l V8 Engine

Windows work backwards... I push up on the drivers side and the passenger side window goes down. I push down on the passenger side and the driver side window goes up. Power locks don't work anymore. Antenna is frozen (happened a couple weeks ago randomly). The trunk floods with water when it rains. It gets like 10 miles per gallon. Its slow and sometimes it has trouble accelerating. I paid $$$$ to replace computer and lots of other junk.




I absolutely hate this car. Anyone want it? $900 OBO smile.gif

I'd really rather have just about anything else ( thats a vertical/diagonal upgrade rather than horizontal )
AOXOMOXOA
a styling 2004 kia minivan
Sharque
Year : 1991 [Grey Import]

Country of Origin: Japan

Currently Registered: UK

Make: Honda

Model: Legend (Japanese spec)

Engine: 3.2L V6

Milage : 150,000 KM

Type: Sedan
2s2k
that's one nice Honda Legend, i suggest other rims and tinted windows tongue.gif
Karnidge
This past Friday I picked up a 2006 Infinity G35 Coupe. Black w/ Black interior, fully loaded. 280 HP, 0-60 in 5.9 sec. and it's sexy as hell.

Storm

54 Gilera Runner smile.gif
goodcase
Quote - (ViCE KiNG @ Mar 1 2006, 04:02) [snapback]587257415[/snapback]

took some pics to show the ground clearance of my car for another forum.. might as well share them here..

aint she a beauty wub.gif

believe it or not.. 3 hours before these pictures were taken.. it was pouring RAIN.. where else in the world does it rain and then by 2pm you can drive to the beach to enjoy a nice sun and surf?



Quote - (ViCE KiNG @ Mar 21 2006, 18:04) [snapback]587333371[/snapback]

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Quite possibly the uglist vehicle nissan has ever come out with. The Back seat lacks any positive styling. Cheap materials used.

Whats with the little dome things over the instruments in the dash board? Makes it look like a last minue adjustment because they didnt know that the sun would affect the the vision of the driver.

They couldnt even have put on a miniscule detail such as a tailpipe tip, it looks dumb with out one, epecially when it protruded from under neath the rear bumper, which has a huge gap between that and the body of the car. Looks poorly put to geather to me.
GuJu
my family just bought it
06
awsome ride....
venezian
Quote - (goodcase @ May 4 2006, 15:47) [snapback]587476059[/snapback]

Quite possibly the uglist vehicle nissan has ever come out with. The Back seat lacks any positive styling. Cheap materials used.

Whats with the little dome things over the instruments in the dash board? Makes it look like a last minue adjustment because they didnt know that the sun would affect the the vision of the driver.

They couldnt even have put on a miniscule detail such as a tailpipe tip, it looks dumb with out one, epecially when it protruded from under neath the rear bumper, which has a huge gap between that and the body of the car. Looks poorly put to geather to me.

the back seat? i didnt know back seats came in different positive styling.

cheap material? laugh.gif for someone who rides in a GM (escalade) vehicle shouldn't be talking about cheap materials. thats rule #1.

the dome things? i believe those are what you call map lights and a compartment to carry your sunglasses.. i'm just guessing though.. rolleyes.gif the sun affecting the driver.. i think thats what the sun visors are for.. they didn't put them there for looks, they're actually functional, you fold them down.. or open that little compartment next to the map light to pull out your sunglasses. smile.gif

if the tail pipe bothered me so much i would've bought some chrome tips for $20... sleeping.gif

you don't want me to start talking about how the car you ride in is put to geather

especially at this time. dry.gif

C-Squarez
Quote - (ViCE KiNG @ May 8 2006, 11:23) [snapback]587486811[/snapback]

the back seat? i didnt know back seats came in different positive styling.

cheap material? laugh.gif for someone who rides in a GM (escalade) vehicle shouldn't be talking about cheap materials. thats rule #1.

the dome things? i believe those are what you call map lights and a compartment to carry your sunglasses.. i'm just guessing though.. rolleyes.gif the sun affecting the driver.. i think thats what the sun visors are for.. they didn't put them there for looks, they're actually functional, you fold them down.. or open that little compartment next to the map light to pull out your sunglasses. smile.gif

if the tail pipe bothered me so much i would've bought some chrome tips for $20... sleeping.gif

you don't want me to start talking about how the car you ride in is put to geather

especially at this time. dry.gif


laugh.gif OOOOOOO!!! BURN!

Hold up, I ride a GM! blink.gif
Stevieboy84
My baby:
06 Seat Leon
Colour: 'Black Magic'
1.9tdi
(if ur wondering about the number plate my initials are SJW, i've since stuck some tape on to make the apostrophe too so it reads WH0'5 SJW)
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Sn00pY
Quote - (Syphonic @ Feb 22 2006, 18:37) [snapback]587229792[/snapback]

Don't have it yet but as soon as I pass my test it will be one of these:
Volkswagen Golf 1.9 TDi Final Edition

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Um. insured on a 1.9TDi after you pass your test... Um. No.

unless Daddy/Mummy is paying for it or you are 25+ and just a lamer for not passing your test already tongue.gif
venezian
do you have another angle of the car? i want to see the front more, it looks really nice.
C-Squarez
Quote - (ViCE KiNG @ May 8 2006, 11:45) [snapback]587486881[/snapback]

do you have another angle of the car? i want to see the front more, it looks really nice.


Who? Me?
venezian
Quote - (C-Squarez @ May 8 2006, 09:46) [snapback]587486886[/snapback]

Who? Me?

lol.. no.. i meant Stevieboy84

i've seen a few Seat's that come from mexico.. but i never seen this one.. but i think the badge in the rear is way too big.
C-Squarez
Quote - (ViCE KiNG @ May 8 2006, 11:48) [snapback]587486898[/snapback]

lol.. no.. i meant Stevieboy84

i've seen a few Seat's that come from mexico.. but i never seen this one.. but i think the badge in the rear is way too big.


LMAO! Oh... blush.gif

What is so bad about GM cars? I have heard you say something about them a few times. Inform me please!
Chicane-UK
Quote - (Sn00pY @ May 8 2006, 17:42) [snapback]587486871[/snapback]

Um. insured on a 1.9TDi after you pass your test... Um. No.

unless Daddy/Mummy is paying for it or you are 25+ and just a lamer for not passing your test already tongue.gif


Golf TDI's are only Group 10 so not exactly a bank buster..

I was insured on my Corrado (which was group 18) at 21.. and yeah it was incredibly expensive but I was able to shoulder the cost myself as ma and pa didn't believe in 'hand outs' smile.gif
Stevieboy84
Hey, yeah of course, will attatch some now!
It's a sexy car, not seen too mnay on the road which is cool.
Neowin being slow atm hence delayed reply!
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betasp
Me: '03 Accord EX V6
Wife: '02 Durange 5.8L V8 (4WD)

Both near EOL. Looking for an upgrade path now.
venezian
very appealing car Stevieboy84.. i like the front end a lot.

Quote - (C-Squarez @ May 8 2006, 09:51) [snapback]587486914[/snapback]

LMAO! Oh... blush.gif

What is so bad about GM cars? I have heard you say something about them a few times. Inform me please!


the NEW malibu and impala are the only exception.

if there are any cars i have ever driven or ridden in that were so cheap, it'd be a GM.

let first go through the list of our family's GM cars. between 1990 - 2003

Chevrolet Caprice
Pontiac Bonneville
Pontiac GrandPrix
Buick Park Avenue
Oldsmobile 88
Oldsmobile Cutless Supreme
Chevrolet Suberban
Chevrolet Blazer
Saturn SL2
Pontiac GrandAm
Pontiac GrandPrix
Chevrolet TrailBlazer
GMC Envoy

i swear, none of those cars made it past 40,000 miles.

the Envoy is a 2003 top of the line model, its been recalled 7 times, and the side view electic mirrors are not repairable. they move on their own. not to mention the center console broke off the bottom part, whatever was holding it together and it just shakes and vibrates all the time. the numbering on the radio have worn off and some of the buttons have come off or dont' operate. the seating memory changes whenever it feels like it. its got about 28K miles on it.. again, like the rest of them, i don't see it going past 40K.

have you ever been to the zoo and they have those machines where you put in a quarter and you stand there for 30 seconds watching the machine make this really cheap plastic molding of a dinosaur?
thats what the interior of GM cars feel and look like to me. you can't get any worse than that.

those new 07 models that finally made an improvement... they're still somewhere back in the 1980's on par with the old BMW interiors. (thats not a compliment)
C-Squarez
Quote - (ViCE KiNG @ May 8 2006, 12:17) [snapback]587486997[/snapback]

very appealing car Stevieboy84.. i like the front end a lot.
the NEW malibu and impala are the only exception.

if there are any cars i have ever driven or ridden in that were so cheap, it'd be a GM.

let first go through the list of our family's GM cars. between 1990 - 2003

Chevrolet Caprice
Pontiac Bonneville
Pontiac GrandPrix
Buick Park Avenue
Oldsmobile 88
Oldsmobile Cutless Supreme
Chevrolet Suberban
Chevrolet Blazer
Saturn SL2
Pontiac GrandAm
Pontiac GrandPrix
Chevrolet TrailBlazer
GMC Envoy

i swear, none of those cars made it past 40,000 miles.

the Envoy is a 2003 top of the line model, its been recalled 7 times, and the side view electic mirrors are not repairable. they move on their own. not to mention the center console broke off the bottom part, whatever was holding it together and it just shakes and vibrates all the time. the numbering on the radio have worn off and some of the buttons have come off or dont' operate. the seating memory changes whenever it feels like it. its got about 28K miles on it.. again, like the rest of them, i don't see it going past 40K.

have you ever been to the zoo and they have those machines where you put in a quarter and you stand there for 30 seconds watching the machine make this really cheap plastic molding of a dinosaur?
thats what the interior of GM cars feel and look like to me. you can't get any worse than that.

those new 07 models that finally made an improvement... they're still somewhere back in the 1980's on par with the old BMW interiors. (thats not a compliment)


Okay cool, didnt see Impala on your list. Now my Impala has over 100,000 miles and still runs great. Great response on the pedal. As soon as I hit the gas the car jerks forward in a good way. I found out what was making the car jerk (The BAD jerk I posted about a while ago), I needed to change the oil. Now I think I have electrical problems so thats about my only problem. The interior is very roomy especially the back seat... shifty.gif I am 6'6 and I have been able to move around back there pretty easily. Now I agree, some parts ARE cheap and I can feel that. The radio buttons do wear off but thats why I am replacing it. Fuel economy is OKAY. Besides the electrical problem that I am pretty sure I have, the car is great!

But I guess there are some exceptions. I just change out whatever I dont like to be honest...
goodcase
Quote - (ViCE KiNG @ May 8 2006, 12:23) [snapback]587486811[/snapback]

the back seat? i didnt know back seats came in different positive styling.

cheap material? laugh.gif for someone who rides in a GM (escalade) vehicle shouldn't be talking about cheap materials. thats rule #1.

the dome things? i believe those are what you call map lights and a compartment to carry your sunglasses.. i'm just guessing though.. rolleyes.gif the sun affecting the driver.. i think thats what the sun visors are for.. they didn't put them there for looks, they're actually functional, you fold them down.. or open that little compartment next to the map light to pull out your sunglasses. smile.gif

if the tail pipe bothered me so much i would've bought some chrome tips for $20... sleeping.gif

you don't want me to start talking about how the car you ride in is put to geather

especially at this time. dry.gif



Ill fight you on this one. Have you sat in the the 2007 escalade? Have you seen the quality of the materials that are put into the new truck?

The dome thing that im talking about is this:



thats just ugly, and it looks like it was put there last minute the shade the gages from the sun so the driver can have a clear vision of them. Why should you have to pay to put a chrome tip on the tailpipe if it should have been there in the first place.

Find one body gap on the new escalade, well besides where the door closes because they cant do anything about that.



And if your going to talk about how a car is put to geather then look at this vehicle for example:



Or how about this:



maby this:



Ill even go one step further. Why can infiniti get it right, but nissan cant....

shockz
If you think the nissan looks bad... then take a look at the 99-05 Grand AM's dash... because its gauges are even more recessed.

I personally like the styling... (thats what it is) with the altimas dash... and grand ams too.
RGSPro
2000 Mustang (red), 2001 sv650 (black)
majortom1981
I have a 2004 corrolla le. gets 30+ mpg. I only pay 27 dollars every time I fill up my tank smile.gif
Stevieboy84
i get about 55mpg, but it doesnt perform like a corrolla wink.gif plus they rape u on the fuel here in uk.. about £1/litre now for diesel!! (aroung $1.5 per litre or $7 per gallon.. dunno what u work in over there)
goodcase
Quote - (shockz @ May 8 2006, 15:39) [snapback]587487380[/snapback]

If you think the nissan looks bad... then take a look at the 99-05 Grand AM's dash... because its gauges are even more recessed.

I personally like the styling... (thats what it is) with the altimas dash... and grand ams too.



the not the gages that bother me, its the things that cover them, I think the gauges are at the proper level, just the rounded off cover looks out of place and cheap.
Ron21
Quote - (goodcase @ May 8 2006, 16:29) [snapback]587487547[/snapback]

the not the gages that bother me, its the things that cover them, I think the gauges are at the proper level, just the rounded off cover looks out of place and cheap.




"Motorcycle-Inspired Gauges
Altima's gauges, inspired by high performance motor cycles and trimmed with chrome, not only look great, they're made for easy reading — thanks to the high-visibility orange graphics and the glare-reducing "scoop" style of the fine vision meters. Certain Altimas are also equipped with a trip computer. It can tell you the outside temperature, your average speed, driving time, average mpg, distance to empty, and driving time. It also features two trip odometers. And on SE-R, there's a center-mounted 3-gauge cluster, similar to the Z®, that indicates voltage, oil pressure, and fuel consumption. "

I think the guages look pretty good.
Rohdekill
I drive....

My relatives, family and friends insane. wacko.gif
Justin-
1997 Saturn SL2 ... Never got below 32 MPG. I average around 35 or so. Last tank got almost 39MPG. smile.gif
whoreman
I drive a lil smart car biggrin.gif
venezian
Quote - (goodcase @ May 8 2006, 12:16) [snapback]587487316[/snapback]

Ill fight you on this one. Have you sat in the the 2007 escalade? Have you seen the quality of the materials that are put into the new truck?

The dome thing that im talking about is this:

thats just ugly, and it looks like it was put there last minute the shade the gages from the sun so the driver can have a clear vision of them. Why should you have to pay to put a chrome tip on the tailpipe if it should have been there in the first place.

Find one body gap on the new escalade, well besides where the door closes because they cant do anything about that.


first, go read this

i too have the gap at the door (thought not as bad) that thing isn't thrown on last minute. as Ron21 said below.

i've sat in the escalade i've messed with the instruments. i've felt how cheap it is. tell me, did cadillac hire doctors and orthopedics to help them design their car seats? where to place the foot pedals?
the answer is no, but nissan did.
honostly, if that escalade was selling for $25K well equipped (which it should be) then i'd say you're almost getting your money's worth.

if you don't like the way it looks then thats fine, but there's a purpose to it. would you say the same about the 2002 model? or the lexus GS model? or the maxima? or the GrandAm? or the Matrix? or the Vibe? or the beetle?

besides, you ride in an SUV, i don't recall any SUV's that have a bulging guage panel like cars do. even the ford SUV's have those chrome rings, but it wouldn't make sense to put a cover over those now would it?.

your opinion of its looks does not make sense.. would it look better without it?

the facts are right infront of you, don't ignore them.
i drive a car, you ride in an SUV.. thats great, but don't try and compare gold and aluminum because my car would last 50 times over in the condition its currently in without having any interior parts fall/break/crack/etc. AND still have a higher resale value (with half the cost compared to your ride).

Quote - (Ron21 @ May 8 2006, 13:49) [snapback]587487611[/snapback]

"Motorcycle-Inspired Gauges
Altima's gauges, inspired by high performance motor cycles and trimmed with chrome, not only look great, they're made for easy reading — thanks to the high-visibility orange graphics and the glare-reducing "scoop" style of the fine vision meters. Certain Altimas are also equipped with a trip computer. It can tell you the outside temperature, your average speed, driving time, average mpg, distance to empty, and driving time. It also features two trip odometers. And on SE-R, there's a center-mounted 3-gauge cluster, similar to the Z®, that indicates voltage, oil pressure, and fuel consumption. "

I think the guages look pretty good.

goodcase
Quote - (ViCE KiNG @ May 8 2006, 18:09) [snapback]587487873[/snapback]

first, go read this

i too have the gap at the door (thought not as bad) that thing isn't thrown on last minute. as Ron21 said below.

i've sat in the escalade i've messed with the instruments. i've felt how cheap it is. tell me, did cadillac hire doctors and orthopedics to help them design their car seats? where to place the foot pedals?
the answer is no, but nissan did.
honostly, if that escalade was selling for $25K well equipped (which it should be) then i'd say you're almost getting your money's worth.

if you don't like the way it looks then thats fine, but there's a purpose to it. would you say the same about the 2002 model? or the lexus GS model? or the maxima? or the GrandAm? or the Matrix? or the Vibe? or the beetle?

besides, you ride in an SUV, i don't recall any SUV's that have a bulging guage panel like cars do. even the ford SUV's have those chrome rings, but it wouldn't make sense to put a cover over those now would it?.

your opinion of its looks does not make sense.. would it look better without it?

the facts are right infront of you, don't ignore them.
i drive a car, you ride in an SUV.. thats great, but don't try and compare gold and aluminum because my car would last 50 times over in the condition its currently in without having any interior parts fall/break/crack/etc. AND still have a higher resale value (with half the cost compared to your ride).



wtf does ergonomics have to do with anything that we are talking about. I simply pointed out that i dont like the way that nissan did the gages on the car, do you think i care if it was "motercycle inspired" cause i dont. And you do realize that not everybody is built the same right, so hireing doctors and orthopedics wasnt really nessacary because even it it helps with the pedal placement ect for the selected group of people. It wont help everybody else that may or may not have a phyiscal ailment.

Did nissan hire and get the input of many famous celebrities and music icons to design there vehicle? Let me check...NO! Cadillac did this to meet the expectations of the people who can afford to buy one. Not the people who critisize them.

Ya, personally, all of those cars are ugly, I probably would never buy one.

How can you say that the interior parts will fall/break/crack/etc. Thats the one of your points that boggles my mind. If you were to look at the silver coloured material in the middle of the car, you would realize that that is just a think coat of paint. Where as the silver colour in the escalades dash, is in fact real metal. As for the quality of buttons and what not, I will put my life on the line to guareentee that the buttons in the escalade are better quality then those of the Nissa Altima.

Since you removed the badge's on your car im going to assume that its amung the top end of the altima's, so thats $36,100.00 CND, The escalade is $91,210 CND. Now, im not just throwing prices in the mix. But Im just saying that there is something about the two vehicles that would create a $55,000 dollar difference.

Now are you emphisizing the fact that i ride in it because its not mine and i dont own it? Because in the near future i do see my self partaking in the purchase of a SAAB 95. Not bad for a first car wouldnt you say.

Nothing is going to change our oppinions, so why dont we just stop the argument, and agree that we both dont like each others vehicles?
venezian
my nissan is not top of the line, it is one above the base model. you get what you pay for, i know those chrome things are plastic, thats why i call it "plome" you can't compare an escalade to my nissan. my car's sticker price was 19,860. of coarse your caddy is going to have better options and better substitutes, such as the real metal pieces, but that doesn't mean it's built better or that those parts will last longer than my nissan's plastic substitutes.

i said erogonomics because of they you expressed your opinion towards it.. i was trying to point out that its not something that gets added on last minute.. i don't know, the opinion just seemed..... unintelligent... saying it was to cover the sun's glare doesn't make sense either, because the guages are recessed in already, the sun won't get to it with or without the cover thing on top.

with that said, i hope that your cadillac will be reliable and keep you happy for the many miles to come...

that is the end of my arguement. tongue.gif

that is until i get my 2007 altima.. IF..









and saab's are ugly over-priced GM cars tongue.gif rofl.gif
goodcase
Quote - (ViCE KiNG @ May 8 2006, 19:50) [snapback]587488190[/snapback]

my nissan is not top of the line, it is one above the base model. you get what you pay for, i know those chrome things are plastic, thats why i call it "plome" you can't compare an escalade to my nissan. my car's sticker price was 19,860. of coarse your caddy is going to have better options and better substitutes, such as the real metal pieces, but that doesn't mean it's built better or that those parts will last longer than my nissan's plastic substitutes.

i said erogonomics because of they you expressed your opinion towards it.. i was trying to point out that its not something that gets added on last minute.. i don't know, the opinion just seemed..... unintelligent... saying it was to cover the sun's glare doesn't make sense either, because the guages are recessed in already, the sun won't get to it with or without the cover thing on top.

with that said, i hope that your cadillac will be reliable and keep you happy for the many miles to come...

that is the end of my arguement. tongue.gif

that is until i get my 2007 altima.. IF..
and saab's are ugly over-priced GM cars tongue.gif rofl.gif



its like compairing the Detroit Redwings to the Pittsburg Penguins, it just doesnt work. Im sorry to hear about your car though, thats gotta be a beyatch. The 95 is pre GM, so it has the sweedish engeenering in it, so thats why i like it.
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