Hello,
I really do like the look of iPods but I can't afford and iPod or iPod mini so I really would like an iPod shuffle but I was wondering a few things about them,
1) How good are they?
2) Are they worth buying?
3) Do you have to use iTunes to put music on it?
4) When using it as a flash drive to hold files, does it require drivers or can u just plug it in?
5) How good is the battery?
6) Once the music is off it, can u copy it off of it onto another computer easily?
7) I'm looking at buying the dock to put in my room by my stereo so I can charge my iPod Shuffle and plug it into my stereo (I have an adapter for the headphone port, I know there is no connection on the dock). My question is can u listen to music while in the charger?
Thank you!
- Barret
Full Version: Should I Get An iPod Shuffle?
1. they play music in random order at low quality
2. no
3.yes, AFAIK
4. plug it in on win98se and up
5. average, i htink its 18 hours.
6. im not really sure what youre asking.
7. dunno.
2. no
3.yes, AFAIK
4. plug it in on win98se and up
5. average, i htink its 18 hours.
6. im not really sure what youre asking.
7. dunno.
in my personal opinnion.. it's better to just get a 4GB mini... i tried out the shuffle while decideing what to buy and the mini for the price is a way better deal.. i know you said you cant afford it, but the shuffle to me is worthless for the money and features
No. IMHO you can get better players for as much or less that have more features.
I've got one of these and I totally love it!!!
I've got one of these and I totally love it!!!
Review for new ipod users
http://www.ipodlounge.com/reviews_more.php?id=6138_0_6_0_C
Review for ipod power users
http://www.ipodlounge.com/reviews_more.php?id=6129_0_6_0_C
Read both of those and if you're still having doubts, go to Google and type "ipod shuffle review" to read some more, don't ask people on a forum what you should buy because they will only give you their opinion which is pretty much useless. Reviews in general tend to be more unbiased. Have fun
http://www.ipodlounge.com/reviews_more.php?id=6138_0_6_0_C
Review for ipod power users
http://www.ipodlounge.com/reviews_more.php?id=6129_0_6_0_C
Read both of those and if you're still having doubts, go to Google and type "ipod shuffle review" to read some more, don't ask people on a forum what you should buy because they will only give you their opinion which is pretty much useless. Reviews in general tend to be more unbiased. Have fun
QUOTE(dieterich @ Mar 23 2005, 20:33)
No. IMHO you can get better players for as much or less that have more features.
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i agree
QUOTE(Aaryn Kasra @ Mar 24 2005, 05:35)
Review for new ipod users
http://www.ipodlounge.com/reviews_more.php?id=6138_0_6_0_C
Review for ipod power users
http://www.ipodlounge.com/reviews_more.php?id=6129_0_6_0_C
Read both of those and if you're still having doubts, go to Google and type "ipod shuffle review" to read some more, don't ask people on a forum what you should buy because they will only give you their opinion which is pretty much useless. Reviews in general tend to be more unbiased. Have fun
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http://www.ipodlounge.com/reviews_more.php?id=6138_0_6_0_C
Review for ipod power users
http://www.ipodlounge.com/reviews_more.php?id=6129_0_6_0_C
Read both of those and if you're still having doubts, go to Google and type "ipod shuffle review" to read some more, don't ask people on a forum what you should buy because they will only give you their opinion which is pretty much useless. Reviews in general tend to be more unbiased. Have fun
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yes, go to a website run by apple entusiasts and get a review from there.
all the reviews on google are done by mac sites with die-hard apple lovers.the only unbiased review an mp3 player can get is a list of specs, and the shuffle is sorely lacking in that area.
1. Fine, just like any other music player, in fact some say that it plays louder than other iPod models. the whole low quality thing that was mentioned earlier is untrue. You can load any bitrate you want, the quality depends on the user.
2. Yes
3. Yes (preferred and recommended method) There have been other utilites developed, but none of them compare with the ease and integration with iTunes.
4. ditto what was said earlier, should work with anythign that is compatible with PNP devices
5. 18hrs advertised, but some have gotten much more
6. huh?
7. Yes
2. Yes
3. Yes (preferred and recommended method) There have been other utilites developed, but none of them compare with the ease and integration with iTunes.
4. ditto what was said earlier, should work with anythign that is compatible with PNP devices
5. 18hrs advertised, but some have gotten much more
6. huh?
7. Yes
QUOTE(g-n-t @ Mar 23 2005, 23:03)
yes, go to a website run by apple entusiasts and get a review from there. all the reviews on google are done by mac sites with die-hard apple lovers.
the only unbiased review an mp3 player can get is a list of specs, and the shuffle is sorely lacking in that area.
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all the reviews on google are done by mac sites with die-hard apple lovers.the only unbiased review an mp3 player can get is a list of specs, and the shuffle is sorely lacking in that area.
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Have you *read* those reviews?
QUOTE(thenewbrgnewman @ Mar 23 2005, 21:46)
6) Once the music is off it, can u copy it off of it onto another computer easily?
I think what you meant by that also is if you fill up your ipod with songs and try to copy them to a friends computer. You can't do that because of copyright issues, but what you can do is if you wantd to transfer mp3s you can drag them on to the shuffle and then put them into whatever computer you want, but you wont be able to listen to the music while its on the shuffle if thats what you wanna do. You add the music in itunes to listen to, it cant be transferred to another computer.
QUOTE(g-n-t @ Mar 23 2005, 23:13)
yes, they said it was pretty.
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That makes you look *real* smart
QUOTE(Aaryn Kasra @ Mar 24 2005, 06:12)
Have you *read* those reviews?
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yes, they said it was pretty.
Edit: they also said that it was cheaper per megabyte than the competition, which is a straight out lie. that right there takes away any credebility your reviews had.
If you are wondering about price per megabyte, there is a chart in the second review
shuffle 512MB $99 $198 per gigabyte
shuffle 1GB $149 $149 per gigabyte
iPod 4G 20GB $299 $14.95 per gigabyte
So yeah it's way more expensive per gigabyte. The reviews talk about that and a few other things for those willing to read for themselves. A general trend is that the more GB you get the cheaper per GB it costs
shuffle 512MB $99 $198 per gigabyte
shuffle 1GB $149 $149 per gigabyte
iPod 4G 20GB $299 $14.95 per gigabyte
So yeah it's way more expensive per gigabyte. The reviews talk about that and a few other things for those willing to read for themselves. A general trend is that the more GB you get the cheaper per GB it costs
QUOTE(g-n-t @ Mar 23 2005, 23:13)
yes, they said it was pretty.
Edit: they also said that it was cheaper per megabyte than the competition, which is a straight out lie. that right there takes away any credebility your reviews had.
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Edit: they also said that it was cheaper per megabyte than the competition, which is a straight out lie. that right there takes away any credebility your reviews had.
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So did you like read the first few sentences and then stop when you ran into that? Nice work man
no, it said it was cheaper per megabyte htan FLASH MP3 players from OTHER COMPANIES. that is a lie.
the point is, you can get more features for less money, and that is why you should buy something else. unless you are a trendwhore, there is absolutely no reason to get a shuffle from a technical POV.
the point is, you can get more features for less money, and that is why you should buy something else. unless you are a trendwhore, there is absolutely no reason to get a shuffle from a technical POV.
QUOTE(g-n-t @ Mar 23 2005, 23:25)
no, it said it was cheaper per megabyte htan FLASH MP3 players from OTHER COMPANIES. that is a lie.
the point is, you can get more features for less money, and that is why you should buy something else. unless you are a trendwhore, there is absolutely no reason to get a shuffle from a technical POV.
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the point is, you can get more features for less money, and that is why you should buy something else. unless you are a trendwhore, there is absolutely no reason to get a shuffle from a technical POV.
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That's your opinion but not everybody shops for electronics based on the amount of features per dollar. There is also the look and feel of the device, the relevance of the features, and the software you are using to take into consideration when making that kind of choice. So it's fine that you've made your choice based on your own factors but there's more to it then that. I read both of those reviews and didn't find them to be biased at all but they gave a general impression if whether it would meet your needs depending on what kind of user you are. Hope that helps you understand where I'm coming from.
QUOTE(Aaryn Kasra @ Mar 24 2005, 06:29)
That's your opinion but not everybody shops for electronics based on the amount of features per dollar. There is also the look and feel of the device, the relevance of the features, and the software you are using to take into consideration when making that kind of choice. So it's fine that you've made your choice based on your own factors but there's more to it then that. I read both of those reviews and didn't find them to be biased at all but they gave a general impression if whether it would meet your needs depending on what kind of user you are. Hope that helps you understand where I'm coming from.
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but the shuffle doesnt have any features to be relevant. it plays music and is overpriced, that is all.
all the features in the shuffle can be found in other mp3 players, with the addition of EVEN MORE features for LESS money.
people buy the shuffle because its called the iPod Shuffle, and it comes with white headphones.
QUOTE(g-n-t @ Mar 23 2005, 23:32)
but the shuffle doesnt have any features to be relevant. it plays music and is overpriced, that is all.
all the features in the shuffle can be found in other mp3 players, with the addition of EVEN MORE features for LESS money.
people buy the shuffle because its called the iPod Shuffle, and it comes with white headphones.
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all the features in the shuffle can be found in other mp3 players, with the addition of EVEN MORE features for LESS money.
people buy the shuffle because its called the iPod Shuffle, and it comes with white headphones.
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I don't disagree with that, but it's not the case for everyone. Obviously your opinion is pretty clear and it's a valid one, so I don't see any reason to continue talking about it. Cheers
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That's your opinion but not everybody shops for electronics based on the amount of features per dollar. There is also the look and feel of the device, the relevance of the features, and the software you are using to take into consideration when making that kind of choice. So it's fine that you've made your choice based on your own factors but there's more to it then that. I read both of those reviews and didn't find them to be biased at all but they gave a general impression if whether it would meet your needs depending on what kind of user you are. Hope that helps you understand where I'm coming from.
well said bro
QUOTE(g-n-t @ Mar 24 2005, 15:32)
but the shuffle doesnt have any features to be relevant. it plays music and is overpriced, that is all.
all the features in the shuffle can be found in other mp3 players, with the addition of EVEN MORE features for LESS money.
people buy the shuffle because its called the iPod Shuffle, and it comes with white headphones.
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all the features in the shuffle can be found in other mp3 players, with the addition of EVEN MORE features for LESS money.
people buy the shuffle because its called the iPod Shuffle, and it comes with white headphones.
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If somethings overpriced, Apple will have a hard time selling them. The last time I checked, Apple was having a hard time with the massive amounts of orders. The point is, overpriced isn't something that is determined by just one person.
As for the shuffle, IMO, the best way to go is still the new iPod mini. $50 for 6 hour more battery life, a screen powering more features, and 4x the space. You might have to save up a bit thou - something worth learning to do IMO
QUOTE(Phillip @ Mar 24 2005, 03:02)
If somethings overpriced, Apple will have a hard time selling them. The last time I checked, Apple was having a hard time with the massive amounts of orders. The point is, overpriced isn't something that is determined by just one person.
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Exactly, I don't see why it's so hard for people to understand that.
lol, how about this: iRiver IFP795T . I've seen the 256mb version at school and everyone likes it, it even has an input port for direct recording!
QUOTE(thenewbrgnewman @ Mar 23 2005, 22:46)
Hello,
I really do like the look of iPods but I can't afford and iPod or iPod mini so I really would like an iPod shuffle but I was wondering a few things about them,
1) How good are they?
2) Are they worth buying?
3) Do you have to use iTunes to put music on it?
4) When using it as a flash drive to hold files, does it require drivers or can u just plug it in?
5) How good is the battery?
6) Once the music is off it, can u copy it off of it onto another computer easily?
7) I'm looking at buying the dock to put in my room by my stereo so I can charge my iPod Shuffle and plug it into my stereo (I have an adapter for the headphone port, I know there is no connection on the dock). My question is can u listen to music while in the charger?
Thank you!
- Barret
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I really do like the look of iPods but I can't afford and iPod or iPod mini so I really would like an iPod shuffle but I was wondering a few things about them,
1) How good are they?
2) Are they worth buying?
3) Do you have to use iTunes to put music on it?
4) When using it as a flash drive to hold files, does it require drivers or can u just plug it in?
5) How good is the battery?
6) Once the music is off it, can u copy it off of it onto another computer easily?
7) I'm looking at buying the dock to put in my room by my stereo so I can charge my iPod Shuffle and plug it into my stereo (I have an adapter for the headphone port, I know there is no connection on the dock). My question is can u listen to music while in the charger?
Thank you!
- Barret
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1) They're good..?
2) Yes I think so, if you use usb flash drives often.. a 1gb one comes in handy.
3) No, you can use Winamp also.
4) You can just plug it in on XP systems.. not sure about others. (OS X will not require any extra drivers either probably)
5) I dont know yet...
6) Probably.. Just open the hidden folders in it..Havent tried tho so i dont know.
7) Music wont play while the shuffle is plugged in to a usb port.
I'd get one if you really think it'd be useful.. I use mine while mountain biking and working out. If i were you i'd save for a bit longer and go for a mini though.
QUOTE(Phillip @ Mar 24 2005, 01:02)
If somethings overpriced, Apple will have a hard time selling them. The last time I checked, Apple was having a hard time with the massive amounts of orders. The point is, overpriced isn't something that is determined by just one person.
As for the shuffle, IMO, the best way to go is still the new iPod mini. $50 for 6 hour more battery life, a screen powering more features, and 4x the space. You might have to save up a bit thou - something worth learning to do IMO
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As for the shuffle, IMO, the best way to go is still the new iPod mini. $50 for 6 hour more battery life, a screen powering more features, and 4x the space. You might have to save up a bit thou - something worth learning to do IMO
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Erm...aren't you contradicting yourself?
I mean you're suggesting an ipod mini is a better value than the shuffle, right?...So the Ipod shuffle is overpriced to some extent...
spend the money on hot-dogs instead 
QUOTE(g-n-t @ Mar 24 2005, 00:03)
yes, go to a website run by apple entusiasts and get a review from there. all the reviews on google are done by mac sites with die-hard apple lovers.
the only unbiased review an mp3 player can get is a list of specs, and the shuffle is sorely lacking in that area.
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all the reviews on google are done by mac sites with die-hard apple lovers.the only unbiased review an mp3 player can get is a list of specs, and the shuffle is sorely lacking in that area.
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So you do not want reviews from mac websites ? Well how about this or this or this or this or this or this or this ?
I'm sure you'll come up with some weird "theories" again
Bring out the tin foil hats 
So is the Ipod Shuffle low quality or not?- Some people say yes some say no?!?!
QUOTE(Phillip @ Mar 24 2005, 09:02)
If somethings overpriced, Apple will have a hard time selling them. The last time I checked, Apple was having a hard time with the massive amounts of orders. The point is, overpriced isn't something that is determined by just one person.
As for the shuffle, IMO, the best way to go is still the new iPod mini. $50 for 6 hour more battery life, a screen powering more features, and 4x the space. You might have to save up a bit thou - something worth learning to do IMO
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As for the shuffle, IMO, the best way to go is still the new iPod mini. $50 for 6 hour more battery life, a screen powering more features, and 4x the space. You might have to save up a bit thou - something worth learning to do IMO
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Well just like sony PSP or playstation even it cost 600 people would get it because its a playstation, the same thing happens with apple ipod its a recognized brand of course its a good thing but lets accept that its overpriced. Sometimes just look the mac mini they can tell me that its a very cheap solution but the money that i would spent in a mac mini i would get a pc with monitor anyways offers better value.
Lets accept that things cost more because its special if u get it its not because of the value of the product or because its cheap.
In my case i would like to see a company like iriver sells a mp3 dvd audio player that would be nice it would be a good alternative and to replace those old mp3cdplayers.
QUOTE(Aaryn Kasra @ Mar 24 2005, 17:03)
Exactly, I don't see why it's so hard for people to understand that.
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You dont understand neither that apple stuff will always cost more
QUOTE(eilegz @ Mar 24 2005, 18:31)
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Thats a lame comparision. Show me a mini-ITX based PC with comparable specs to the mini and then lets look at the price.
QUOTE(eilegz @ Mar 24 2005, 17:31)
You dont understand neither that apple stuff will always cost more
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I do understand that, if you read my post you would realize that. I know Apple hardware is overpriced. You aren't paying for features necessarily, you're paying for the brand, the quality and look/feel of the device (in the case of the shuffle) NOT JUST THE FEATURES, I am sick of explaining this to people who don't bother reading ****.
Not everybody uses the same criteria to choose electronics, brand name/image/looks DO MATTER, maybe not to you, but to other people they do.
QUOTE(eilegz @ Mar 25 2005, 09:31)
Well just like sony PSP or playstation even it cost 600 people would get it because its a playstation, the same thing happens with apple ipod its a recognized brand of course its a good thing but lets accept that its overpriced. Sometimes just look the mac mini they can tell me that its a very cheap solution but the money that i would spent in a mac mini i would get a pc with monitor anyways offers better value.
Lets accept that things cost more because its special if u get it its not because of the value of the product or because its cheap.
In my case i would like to see a company like iriver sells a mp3 dvd audio player that would be nice it would be a good alternative and to replace those old mp3cdplayers.
You dont understand neither that apple stuff will always cost more
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Lets accept that things cost more because its special if u get it its not because of the value of the product or because its cheap.
In my case i would like to see a company like iriver sells a mp3 dvd audio player that would be nice it would be a good alternative and to replace those old mp3cdplayers.
You dont understand neither that apple stuff will always cost more
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You know, you do pay extra for a branded product. Its a fact of life. A 'better' brand would costs slightly extra. But thats different from 'overpriced'. Overpriced to me, and I assume to many other people is not 'I am not getting the best value, therefor its overpriced'. Yes, the iPod brand is strong, but do you think people would still be lining up to buy shuffles if it was say, $199 for the 512 MB model?
Okay, I've moved past the iPod Shuffle. Now what about the iRiver IFP795T . I've seen the 256mb version at school and everyone likes it, it even has an input port for direct recording! Is it good?
QUOTE(thenewbrgnewman @ Mar 24 2005, 23:06)
Okay, I've moved past the iPod Shuffle. Now what about the iRiver IFP795T . I've seen the 256mb version at school and everyone likes it, it even has an input port for direct recording! Is it good?
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Have you learned nothing by reading these posts? I just.... I already... you didn't even....
*head explodes*
i think it ugly.... i would buy an alternative... I buy things for features per $..... I aint no trendwhore or fanboy.
I am completely satisfied with my Shuffle, you should get one.
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