Fred Derf
Mar 26 2005, 14:41
I am considering purchasing a HP8450 8-colour photo printer and it supports all of the above memory card technologies (along with USB flash drives):
http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/ca/en/un/WF...340-402149.htmlI would also like to get a digital camera to go with it that supports PictBridge:
http://www.cipa.jp/pictbridge/CertifiedMod...edModels_E.htmlI'll make the 4MP, 5MP decision based on monitary limitations but given a choice, what is the best memory card technology to invest in? If you feel like recommending a specific camera model then go ahead.
I gather that some are limited in capacity, some of mostly proprietary (Sony Memory Stick?) and others are just annoying (Secure Digital with Digital Rights Management?)
Please let me know what you think the winner is (from that group) and what the losers are (from the group).
Thanks in advance
You can get up to 4GB CF cards.
Fred Derf
Mar 26 2005, 15:03
The early votes are going towards Secure Digital. I gather that the CPRM-technology is not an annoyance and it can be ignored.
I found this soundbyte:
QUOTE(Steve's Digicams)
SD cards were originally designed to hold copyrighted musical content and prevent its unauthorized duplication. Although this use was not widely adopted, SD cards have become the flash memory card of choice for digital cameras because of their small size and low power consumption.
http://www.steves-digicams.com/flash_memory.html#sdThey also seem to be the most popular form of memory cards sold in cameras today (which theoretically is good for longevity).
The same site also says SmartMedia = RIP, so I'll avoid that one.
I would say Secure Digital aswell - all PocketPC's use SD (some feature both CF and SD) but SD is the way to go I am hoping everyone will switch to it soon.
Its great for camera's/pocketPC's since you can take a picture put the card in your pocketpc, edit it from your pocketpc (there are some really good pocket pc image editors) then slip it in an email / upload to your personal web space.
Nice and easy! I have a 1GB SD card its read/write times and low power consumption is what makes me recommend SD to you.
Fred Derf
Mar 26 2005, 23:27
What do you guys think of HP Digital Cameras then? They use SD for storage.
Future Shop has a Hewlett Packard Photosmart R707 5.1MP Digital Camera for C$350 and they have a refurbished 2003 model the HP Photosmart 935 5.3MP Digital Camera for C$250.
I gather then R707 is a lot better for taking video clips.
b0m8er
Mar 26 2005, 23:30
I use SD, my Digicam uses it, camcorder uses it and my Smartphone uses miniSD, which can be used as a normal SD card with special adapter
jumungo4
Mar 26 2005, 23:31
I have a CF card for my digital camera and a mmc card for my nokia mobile and they are both excellent and never fail.
TheWahbinator
Mar 26 2005, 23:35
CF for it's price, or
SD for size and the write protection thingy
Either one is good enough.
morebaker
Mar 26 2005, 23:38
I like sd because i use it in my hp camera and i also have firefox,
and various other programs stored on it.
with a card reader it is versatile and portable.
Fred Derf
Mar 27 2005, 00:53
QUOTE(fred666 @ Mar 26 2005, 18:27)
What do you guys think of HP Digital Cameras then? They use SD for storage.
Future Shop has a Hewlett Packard Photosmart R707 5.1MP Digital Camera for C$350 and they have a refurbished 2003 model the HP Photosmart 935 5.3MP Digital Camera for C$250.
I gather then R707 is a lot better for taking video clips.
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Best Buy Canada has the HP Photosmart R707 camera for C$279.99
http://www.bestbuy.ca/catalog/proddetail.a...d=EN&dept=20006Incidentally, the HP Photosmart 8450 printer is C$20 cheaper at Best Buy too.
Skyfrog
Mar 27 2005, 01:08
All of my stuff uses CompactFlash so that's all I've ever used. Secure Digital has some nice points but I don't like the exposed contacts.
Fred Derf
Mar 27 2005, 01:50
Is their a point in buying high-speed Secure Digital media? I hear that most media can write about 2MB/sec while Lexar 32x media can write at 4.8MB/sec and ATP high-speed media can write at 8MB/sec. My concern is what if the digital camera only writes at 2MB/sec anyway? That information isn't easily found from HP.
Futureshop has Kingston SD 512MB cards for C$59 after rebate while the ATP media is C$99.95 Is there a point to the extra C$40?
panacea
Mar 27 2005, 01:57
get high speed if you want, but not at futureshop
always check canadacomputers.com they have many locations around toronto.
ATP Secure Digital Super High-Speed Card (60x) 512MB = $60
SanDisk Ultra II Secure Digital Card 512MB (10MB/sec read speed) = $75
Fred Derf
Mar 27 2005, 02:45
QUOTE(panacea @ Mar 26 2005, 20:57)
get high speed if you want, but not at futureshop
always check canadacomputers.com they have many locations around toronto.
ATP Secure Digital Super High-Speed Card (60x) 512MB = $60
SanDisk Ultra II Secure Digital Card 512MB (10MB/sec read speed) = $75
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Thanks for the info.
I was just at the Pacific Mall yesterday (my first time).
neoufo51
Mar 27 2005, 04:19
QUOTE(panacea @ Mar 26 2005, 17:57)
get high speed if you want, but not at futureshop
always check canadacomputers.com they have many locations around toronto.
ATP Secure Digital Super High-Speed Card (60x) 512MB = $60
SanDisk Ultra II Secure Digital Card 512MB (10MB/sec read speed) = $75
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KINGMAX 256MB Platinum 60X High Speed Secure Digital Card with PiP Technology -Model SDC-256M3P 256MB
= $23.05 and the highest 5/5 rating on Newegg.com (45 votes)
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc....-155-256&depa=0I own the 256mb card and its the best card I ever used. Holds 98 pics at highest image setting on my Canon 5mp camera.
KINGMAX 512MB Platinum 60X High Speed Secure Digital Card with PiP Technology -Model SDC-512M3P
= $43.01 and 4/5 star rating on Newegg.
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc....-155-257&depa=0
RPatel
Mar 27 2005, 08:52
I've got a mermory stick, its worked fine for me so far.
neoufo51
Mar 27 2005, 12:17
QUOTE(fred666 @ Mar 26 2005, 17:50)
Is their a point in buying high-speed Secure Digital media? I hear that most media can write about 2MB/sec while Lexar 32x media can write at 4.8MB/sec and ATP high-speed media can write at 8MB/sec. My concern is what if the digital camera only writes at 2MB/sec anyway? That information isn't easily found from HP.
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If a camera has USB 2.0 output, then it is a safe bet that it will take advantage of a fast card.
Oh and here is the SD card I own. Just took a quick low quality shot.
nquinnathome1
Mar 27 2005, 12:25
Personally I use Memory Sticks; only because I own Sony Cameras and they accept them. SD cards seem to be the best technology to go with at the moment, mainly because so many devices nowadays are supporting them.
QUOTE(nquinnathome1 @ Mar 27 2005, 12:25)
Personally I use Memory Sticks; only because I own Sony Cameras and they accept them. SD cards seem to be the best technology to go with at the moment, mainly because so many devices nowadays are supporting them.
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Compatibility is what counts when buying Flash Memory buy the card which the majority of your devices support you don't want to buy CF for example and only be able to use it in your camera.
Fred Derf
Mar 29 2005, 12:42
I ended up getting an ATP 60x Secure Digital card from CanadaComputers.com as Panacea suggested. I'd rather drive 30+ minutes in traffic than bother with online retailers, thank you very much.
I considered the KingMax that they also had but it didn't have a lock to make the card read-only. I thought that might be useful if I dropped the card off to be developed.
insanekiwi
Mar 29 2005, 12:45
i have mmc/sd. make sure to post some nice pics soon fred
Brandon
Mar 29 2005, 12:51
Check out Canon's A520 camera. its 4mp and i have the 3.2mp version and its great!
ZZOOzzoo
Mar 29 2005, 13:08
I use Memory Stick Duo because I'm always attracted to Sony products.
Most of their products are super sexy compared to the competetors.
Right now, I'm using Cybershot DSC T3 and Handycam P1, and they both accept Memory Stick Duo.
Here's my Memory Stick Duo 512mb that I bought last december at Manhattan.
It's very tiny, but I took a magnified shot.
Echilon
Mar 29 2005, 14:08
I'd go with SD, because it's the most universal. My Camera and iPaq both use it, and my phone uses TransFlash (soon to be MicroSD), which fit's into an SD slot with an adaptor. Hitachi have just released those new 6Gb Microdrives which fit into CF slots, but maybe they'll make something similar for SD slots.
eye_see_you
Mar 29 2005, 14:11
I currently have a Canon EOS 300D SLR and Nikon 3100 Coolpix for point and shoot. using CF 40x and 80x Write accelerated cards has made a difference on high speed transfers and speed photography as well. I've used SD before but think the CF performed better.
ZZOOzzoo
Mar 29 2005, 14:12
I forgot to add this, Sony Cybetshot T3 supports PictBridge for direct print without PC.
T3 is very thin, but it has 5.1 megapixel and 3X optical zoom.
Here's my review of T3:
http://www.neowin.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=279714If you want a nice-looking and tiny camera with a good spec, go for T3 or T33.
ExplorerZ
Dec 10 2005, 04:47
SD are will be the best to me.
its small, fast and relatively cheap (kingston elite pro 50x 512mb at 60SGD in some stores)
50x will be more than enough to support most camera for its 7500kbps
i'm guessing CF are best for those higher end DSLR camera like a Nikon/Canon whilst the SD is best for the compacts and the lower DSLR's.
Whichever the case, i picked an SD because they're light, and be used on other devices...eg, mobile phone, etc.
I remember using a digi cam which took floppies!
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I remember using a digi cam which took floppies!
I remember seeing that too! I think it was a sony digital camera of somesort... i've been using kingston's elite pro sd cards, works like a charm...


my other sd card.
Galley
Dec 31 2005, 12:01
SD, because you can pop the card into a Palm PDA and view you photos instantly on a nice big screen.
Fred Derf
Dec 31 2005, 15:33
Woh, I remember creating this thread.
I was in a store the other day and I noticed that high speed SD memory now claims 150x speeds (or something like that). And I thought my 66x SD card was the cat's ass. Such is life with technology...
killtoskate1217
Jan 3 2006, 04:57
SD is the more widely used camera memory. So youd be more future proof with that. As for SM, yea, alot of it is dead. For high speed SD, its the better choice for SLR cameras that can take various shots every second.
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SD is the more widely used camera memory. So youd be more future proof with that. As for SM, yea, alot of it is dead. For high speed SD, its the better choice for SLR cameras that can take various shots every second.
You mean DSLR camera's

And some DSLR's have dual slots, for both SD and CompactFlash, so you can't really leave them out in the dirt.
jono123
Jan 14 2006, 01:27
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You can get up to 4GB CF cards.

Actually you can get 6GB compact flash II cards.
I also recommend CF cards because they are quicker at storing the photos
factoid
Jan 14 2006, 01:29
HD-DVD all the way!
...

*slap* oops

I have no idea.
Toastyone
Jan 14 2006, 01:30
Compact Flash

Been using it for year and it has always been great and it is pretty cheap as well for the size cards you can get
cloudstrife13
Jan 14 2006, 01:30
I like Secure Digital.
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