david.rothera
Apr 5 2005, 17:07
Right, my new laptop came with Norton internet systemworks pre-installed, if it slows it down then it can be ripped out and replaced.....
Does it significantly slow the pc down? If so how much?
thanks in advance
PseudoRandomDragon
Apr 5 2005, 17:09
What you should do with new computers is just format them and install your own copy of Win98/2k/XP/whatever because with all the junk they put in, norton is the least of your worries.
PureEdit
Apr 5 2005, 17:10
QUOTE(PseudoRandomDragon @ Apr 5 2005, 09:09)
What you should do with new computers is just format them and install your own copy of Win98/2k/XP/whatever because with all the junk they put in, norton is the least of your worries.
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He is right, all of it slows down the computer a lot. Norton is probably one of the worst though.
saxondale.
Apr 5 2005, 17:11
Scrap norton and go for symantec
I agree, my new laptop had about 20 different programs on them and ran crap, 4matted it and its soooo much quicker its unreal
QUOTE(bingham. @ Apr 5 2005, 17:11)
Scrap norton and go for symantec
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wtf?
Norton is Symantec
Agreed. And once you have your fresh install I wouldn't recommend using Norton. Search the forums for tons of threads on the best AV utilities, some are free.
david.rothera
Apr 5 2005, 17:13
Think I am going to format at the weekend, in the meantime I have managed to scrap all the junk and am atm scrapping Norton.
The startup list is clean and services, registry etc have also all been cleaned.....
This should make it a bit faster right?
The Grasshopper
Apr 5 2005, 17:15
QUOTE(david.rothera @ Apr 5 2005, 12:07)
Right, my new laptop came with Norton internet systemworks pre-installed, if it slows it down then it can be ripped out and replaced.....
Does it significantly slow the pc down? If so how much?
thanks in advance
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I don't know about slowing it down, I use mcafee only. It does everything for me.
If you use Norton products you might want to read this:
Flaws in Norton Products.
Pierreken
Apr 5 2005, 17:16
QUOTE(matt3h @ Apr 5 2005, 18:12)
That's what I was thinking...
I used to have norton too on my PC untill like 4y ago I tried other software. All I can say is that Norton realy slows down your system. Now I'm using AVG antivirus. Free, does what it has to do and doesn't slow my PC down.
But if you have a PC that came with all the softw pre-installed then there are most likely other programs that are slowing it down. They always put a lot of crap on it that you don't need.
From experience, norton is an ABSOLUTE pain to remove, you may not be able to succesfully without a format/clean-install
QUOTE(matt3h @ Apr 5 2005, 12:12)
I think by Symantec he was referring to Norton Corporate Edition, which is excellent btw
The Grasshopper
Apr 5 2005, 17:19
QUOTE(joshpo @ Apr 5 2005, 12:18)
I think by Symantec he was referring to Norton Corporate Edition, which is excellent btw
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Not Good
ah, what's the main difference thou?
Elagizy
Apr 5 2005, 17:21
QUOTE(matt3h @ Apr 5 2005, 17:12)
he means Symantec Antivirus NOT Norton Antivirus 2005.....
Symatec Antivirus is the best
http://www.symantec.com/product/index_homecomp.html
I use norton systemworks 2003, not a rsource hog, does me great. PPL NEED TO LEARN TO USE THE ******* search button cus ive seen TONS LITERALLY TONS of threads on this. Search next time Mr. Poster
Symantec is nearly as bad as Norton. Its less bloated, with an uglier interface.. but still too bloated.
I like NOD32.
Download kapersky its the best
Farstrider
Apr 5 2005, 17:29
QUOTE(bingham. @ Apr 5 2005, 19:11)
Scrap norton and go for symantec
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We now know the difference!!!???
QUOTE(matt3h @ Apr 5 2005, 19:16)
From experience, norton is an ABSOLUTE pain to remove, you may not be able to succesfully without a format/clean-install
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Why is it so hard to remove? This must be the worst bit of advice I've ever heard! It is as easy to remove Norton as any other program!
david.rothera
Apr 5 2005, 17:29
Yeah, forgot about the search button..... oops
this is confusin.. i dont understand symantec.com has nnorton products - if symantec own norton why do they have symantec antivirus and norton antivirus - soz if this sounds n00bish lol
Symantec = Norton and Norton = Symantec.
Go to www.symantec.com and click on products and you'll see Norton Antivirus there.
Hey, tis true. U r a n00b. Nah, im kiddin, relax man!
hmm ok thx
and Symantec Antivirus Corporate does that have to be used on servers/workstations and deployed network wide or can it be used on standalone pcs
Elagizy
Apr 5 2005, 17:37
QUOTE(matt3h @ Apr 5 2005, 17:32)
this is confusin.. i dont understand symantec.com has nnorton products - if symantec own norton why do they have symantec antivirus and norton antivirus - soz if this sounds n00bish lol
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Symantec did norton for people who care for the design and don't care about the speed of thier PC , but symantec is for professionals
Symantec Antivirus Corp is intended to be used on workstations and servers in a business environment.
If you are so concerned about ram usage, get a different Antivirus program. And avoid McAfee.
NSW only uses about 55mb of my 512mb of ram! quite bloody actully!
Farstrider
Apr 5 2005, 17:40
QUOTE(matt3h @ Apr 5 2005, 19:32)
this is confusin.. i dont understand symantec.com has nnorton products - if symantec own norton why do they have symantec antivirus and norton antivirus - soz if this sounds n00bish lol
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Do what azPNG said! Get a grip man. How long have you been using computers? Really, by now you should know that they are the same product, there are variations on the theme but all the same company!
Nose Nuggets
Apr 5 2005, 17:42
well norton ( and any virus scan software that has a constant protection option) will have something running in the background. so when you downlaod a file it auto scans it
standard anti virus is a fairly big resource hog, and internet security is even worse.
i like good ol norton anti virus corperate. low resource usage but dosent get updated as often and its scanning algarithems arnt as up to date as the latest mainstream anti virus
but then again i know what i shoudlent be downloading, so im not TOO woried about it
boogerjones
Apr 5 2005, 17:50
QUOTE(Gowcra @ Apr 5 2005, 17:30)
Symantec is da name of da company. Norton is one of Symantec's product lines. In other words, Symantec does not equal Norton. Jacko! HEHEHE
From Symantec's Corporate Information page (
Here):
QUOTE
Symantec's Norton brand of consumer security products is a market leader in desktop protection
Get something straight
1. Symantec Corporate Anti-virus, faster, less resource-hungry, better detection
2. Norton Anti-virus, slow, bloated, resource-hungry
Now, I'm thinking you may want to try out nod32 or symantec corp. Get your task manager open and you can see how much norton is eating up your ressources, if you don't know which ones are which you can use a program or just post.
testman
Apr 6 2005, 14:34
I'm really surprised that a whole load of you don't know the difference between Norton and Symantec.
Symantec is the name of the company.
Norton is the name of the comsumer product.
Norton used to be owned by a Mr. Norton bloke till Symantec bought his entire Norton product line out. His Norton AntiVirus product is sold at retail and from the website. These are the ones with activation (because they are retail products).
Symantec AntiVirus Corporate Edition is the name of the product that is sold to businesses. The fluff from Norton is not on this, but it does roughly the same thing (scan viruses). However, this version links to a server in which the virus definitions and other updates are downloaded from. This way, the product updates are centrally managed. Of course you don't have to use the server-link part, you can run it as a stand-alone. This product doesn't have any product activation because they are sold as part of a bulk licence pack to businesses.
Both of these products are updated regularly and at the same time.
QUOTE(testman @ Apr 6 2005, 09:34)
Both of these products are updated regularly and at the same time.
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definition-wise yes, but the actual program - no
testman
Apr 6 2005, 21:41
Ah yeah, but Norton's a consumer product, it makes sense to change it once a year to keep up with current threats (they change the range of stuff it can do e.g. one year it had a file protection/shredder thing, now it has a firewall-type thing). Symantec AntiVirus Corporate Edition doesn't need updating as it doesn't come with fluff, also businesses wouldn't buy a new one every year.
very true testman, you guys may want to check out post #10 in this thread:
http://www.neowin.net/forum/index.php?show...#entry585737604Of course, this can change, but that's a rough number that could be on your computer
I agree that Norton became a horrible resource hog. I used all Symantec Products until version 2005 and this version is by far the most bloated one. I switched to PC Cillin Internet Security 2005 the winner of all editor choices in major magazines, online reviews etc. It's currently the best commercial complete security product on the market..and god you should see how often they update their virus definitions. Very good and very light on resources.
how much mem does just the av take up?
Der(V)oribundenVampir
Sep 26 2006, 01:46
Sorry to revive this very old thread but... I'm also trying to figure out which one to choose. I've been a SAV user for more than 2 or 3 years now.
How about SAV 10.1 vs the latest version of NOD32.
Does NOD32 support network or centralization? Can I manage remote clients, or better said, does it behave as a server/client software?
The network module is fundamental to me, but keep in mind that my network is quite small, smaller than you image.
tlogank
Sep 26 2006, 02:23
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Sorry to revive this very old thread but... I'm also trying to figure out which one to choose. I've been a SAV user for more than 2 or 3 years now.
How about SAV 10.1 vs the latest version of NOD32.
Does NOD32 support network or centralization? Can I manage remote clients, or better said, does it behave as a server/client software?
The network module is fundamental to me, but keep in mind that my network is quite small, smaller than you image.

yes, you can do all that with NOD32.
any antivirus/protection program uses resources to execute its tasks.. and that requires resources, which end up in your computer becoming slower.
Don't matter if you use NOD, Symantec, Kaspersky, AVG.. they ALL will slow the PC down if they are working correctly. Some will cause more of a slowdown than others, some will protect better than others..
Scorbing
Sep 26 2006, 06:48
Norton USED to be good. It is all garbage now. Symantec Corp is OK. I am using McAfee Enterprise 8.0i along with the Windows firewall. I use Server 2003 though.
norton is so slow that it sux monkey penis while giving a handjob to a pig
!!!
Gowcra
Sep 26 2006, 09:24
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norton is so slow that it sux monkey penis while giving a handjob to a pig
!!!
Tha Bloo Monkee
Oct 1 2006, 04:52
Quote -
Does Norton slow the pc down?
Yes.
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