Steffan
Apr 15 2005, 22:33
This news is going to change almost daily. TO wants more money from the Eagles. This is only one year after he signed a 7 year $49 million contract. He also fired his agent David Joesph, who didn't file the papers to get him released from the 49ers. He hired Drew Rosenhaus as his new agent. His new agent calls his current deal "sub-standard deal".
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2037602
BroChaos
Apr 15 2005, 22:37
all it's gonna do is make their chances of winning an SB even less.
gotta love the greediness....
djsaad1
Apr 15 2005, 22:41
i dont know much about football contracts but 49 million doesnt sound that much for 7 years compared to nba contracts. true the nba has 82 games not including the playoffs but you are almost putting you life on the line playing in this steroid infested nfl
Steffan
Apr 15 2005, 22:48
The salary cap for NFL teams is $83 million (I think). Plus teams have to pay for a roster of 52 players, not 10-12 players. $7 million is a lot of money for a single player in the NFL.
display name
Apr 15 2005, 22:51
It's T.O. after all, why are we surprised?
djsaad1
Apr 15 2005, 22:51
QUOTE(Steffan @ Apr 15 2005, 16:48)
The salary cap for NFL teams is $83 million (I think). Plus teams have to pay for a roster of 52 players, not 10-12 players. $7 million is a lot of money for a single player in the NFL.
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what is he complaining about then he is making overhalf the salary cap. and he still has a running back and a quarter back he is competing with. Mcnabb being one of the best.
-=SD=-
Apr 15 2005, 23:10
To be fair, he is one of the best WR's playing right now and if you compare his salary to other top WR's then it's easy to see why he wants it changed..
Moss w/Vikings - 8 years for $75 million.
Harrison w/Colts - 7 years for $67 million.
Owens w/Eagles - 7 years for $49 million.
[Rookie] Fitzgerald w/Arizona - 6 years for $40 base upto $60 million.
BroChaos
Apr 15 2005, 23:16
QUOTE(-=SD=- @ Apr 15 2005, 16:10)
To be fair, he is one of the best WR's playing right now and if you compare his salary to other top WR's then it's easy to see why he wants it changed..
Moss w/Vikings - 8 years for $75 million.
Harrison w/Colts - 7 years for $67 million.
Owens w/Eagles - 7 years for $49 million.
[Rookie] Fitzgerald w/Arizona - 6 years for $40 base upto $60 million.
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and none of those teams will win a SB in the next 8 years.
don't they see the current forumla, and how it works best. thats what i like about the patriots (as of now). 3 super bowls later, and it still really hasn't gone to their head (for the most part).
-=SD=-
Apr 15 2005, 23:40
QUOTE(BroChaos @ Apr 15 2005, 18:16)
and none of those teams will win a SB in the next 8 years.
don't they see the current forumla, and how it works best. thats what i like about the patriots (as of now). 3 super bowls later, and it still really hasn't gone to their head (for the most part).
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I agree, but if the teams are paying this much then really he should get paid nearly the same for his performance.
The Eagles did make the Superbowl last year, and (afaik) should have a good enough team to get back this year, especially against the NFC.. winning as you said may not happen though.
Laughing-Man
Apr 15 2005, 23:55
I can vouch that the people in Philadelphia and the suburbs are ****ed. No one here is going to be suprised if he is traded. Freddie Mitchell is a dead man walking and TO is just making people here more angry. He signed a contract and he should just deal with it. If he wanted more then he should of did it when the contract was made and not threaten to sit out during training camp and preseason. I do not think people want to put up with three months of training camp if there is going to tons of contraversey surrounding it. It will be distracting for the players to get ready for the season. Plus when the season starts and he is not practiced all of the routes and plays that he has to do, which will just make it more difficult for the team.
leedogg
Apr 16 2005, 00:20
I bet I know a lot of people that are happy and laughing about this. (9ners & all of SF

)
Steffan
Apr 16 2005, 00:42
The Eagles could make it easy on them and just cut Owens.
SD: Moss is in Oakland now.
-=SD=-
Apr 16 2005, 00:54
QUOTE(Steffan @ Apr 15 2005, 19:42)
SD: Moss is in Oakland now.
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I know, just his contract info was for the Vikings (not sure if he got a new deal yet).
i love the seahawks
Apr 16 2005, 02:17
Hmm.... I think T.O. is full of himself. From this:
http://www.jagfire.net/nfl/owen****.gif to this:
http://www.jagfire.net/nfl/to_rips_sign.gif to this crap. I would tell him, work with this, or find a new team. They've got plenty of other good recievers on the Eagles.
bigbluepride35
Apr 16 2005, 02:40
QUOTE(i love the seahawks @ Apr 15 2005, 22:17)
They've got plenty of other good recievers on the Eagles.
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Um actually they don't lol. But yeah I think the guy needs to shut up and play. I saw him on some CNBC interview where he pulled the Latrell Sprewell and talked about taking care of his family. He had $8 million from a signing bonus when he signed the contract. That's gotta be enough (even after taking out for agent, lawyer, all the other people athletes need to pamper them, and taxes) to put money away for 2-3 kids for college and buy yourself a nice home. Athletes making over $1 million a year playing the family card is just ridiculous. Especially when the majority of the people paying to attend your games are making less than 6 figure salaries a year and managing to get by. JUST FRIGGIN PLAY
i love the seahawks
Apr 16 2005, 02:41
QUOTE(bigbluepride35 @ Apr 15 2005, 20:40)
Um actually they don't lol. But yeah I think the guy needs to shut up and play. I saw him on some CNBC interview where he pulled the Latrell Sprewell and talked about taking care of his family. He had $8 million from a signing bonus when he signed the contract. That's gotta be enough (even after taking out for agent, lawyer, all the other people athletes need to pamper them, and taxes) to put money away for 2-3 kids for college and buy yourself a nice home. Athletes making over $1 million a year playing the family card is just ridiculous. Especially when the majority of the people paying to attend your games are making less than 6 figure salaries a year and managing to get by. JUST FRIGGIN PLAY
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...Freddie Mitchell seems to think his hands are God's greatest creations...
bigbluepride35
Apr 16 2005, 02:46
QUOTE(i love the seahawks @ Apr 15 2005, 22:41)
...Freddie Mitchell seems to think his hands are God's greatest creations...
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Unfortunately, he's the only person lol. And I don't think he's going to still be in Philly when the next season starts lol. And just one last thing on Owens. I'm a person who actually didn't care much about all his on the field stuff. The pom-poms, the Ray Lewis dance, the standing on the Cowboys star (not in sequential order). I thought he was an idiot but I didn't care. If you don't wnat him doing those things, stop him. But first "jokingly" taking a shot at McNabb and now this? DO your trash-talking during the game and leave it at that. And sadly, as much of an idiot he is for opening his yap too much, I still feel that he's one of few NFL players who DON'T get into serious legal issues off the field. If he would just keep his mouth shut he'd be a near model player.
christracy
Apr 16 2005, 02:48
they are gonna trade TO back to the 49ers to draft a edwards or williams with the first pick!!
jerzdawg
Apr 16 2005, 02:50
as a diehard eagles fan.. i hope this gets settled... i would def like to keep TO for next season... luckily Andy Reid and the Eagles staff is brilliant at managing the salary... ill cross my fingers.. id like to see Philly take home the SuperBowl...
i love the seahawks
Apr 16 2005, 02:55
QUOTE(bigbluepride35 @ Apr 15 2005, 20:46)
Unfortunately, he's the only person lol. And I don't think he's going to still be in Philly when the next season starts lol. And just one last thing on Owens. I'm a person who actually didn't care much about all his on the field stuff. The pom-poms, the Ray Lewis dance, the standing on the Cowboys star (not in sequential order). I thought he was an idiot but I didn't care. If you don't wnat him doing those things, stop him. But first "jokingly" taking a shot at McNabb and now this? DO your trash-talking during the game and leave it at that. And sadly, as much of an idiot he is for opening his yap too much, I still feel that he's one of few NFL players who DON'T get into serious legal issues off the field. If he would just keep his mouth shut he'd be a near model player.
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Yeah, he is WAY to braggy.
QUOTE(jerzdawg @ Apr 15 2005, 20:50)
as a diehard eagles fan.. i hope this gets settled... i would def like to keep TO for next season... luckily Andy Reid and the Eagles staff is brilliant at managing the salary... ill cross my fingers.. id like to see Philly take home the SuperBowl...
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Yeah I wish they would've won this years... But that's because I hate the patriots more than the Eagles.
BroChaos
Apr 16 2005, 03:23
QUOTE(bigbluepride35 @ Apr 15 2005, 19:40)
Um actually they don't lol. But yeah I think the guy needs to shut up and play. I saw him on some CNBC interview where he pulled the Latrell Sprewell and talked about taking care of his family. He had $8 million from a signing bonus when he signed the contract. That's gotta be enough (even after taking out for agent, lawyer, all the other people athletes need to pamper them, and taxes) to put money away for 2-3 kids for college and buy yourself a nice home. Athletes making over $1 million a year playing the family card is just ridiculous. Especially when the majority of the people paying to attend your games are making less than 6 figure salaries a year and managing to get by. JUST FRIGGIN PLAY
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wow, are you serious? how can any multi-million dollar/year athlete say that? thats just absurd. i agree 100% though, just friggin play.
All I have to say is...
venezian
Apr 16 2005, 05:59
it never ceases to amaze what money does to people..
$49 million in 7 years.. thats 7mill a year. thats more than enough money.
quigley0
Apr 16 2005, 09:31
and to think I almost had a little respect for him after the heart he showed in the superbowl. Oh well. Again, i've said this many times before. Athletes should not be allowed to speak, period. Nothing good ever comes from it. (now I am talking about the dig he took at McNabb about not playing hard at the superbowl)
Toxikk
Apr 16 2005, 17:56
not after one year, no. he is a pimp... but i want to see what he can do without getting hurt. go eags.
Steffan
Apr 16 2005, 20:58
QUOTE(Toxikk @ Apr 16 2005, 12:56)
not after one year, no. he is a pimp... but i want to see what he can do without getting hurt. go eags.
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What if the Eagles give him more money and he gets hurt early in the season or before the season begins? Then they are going pay him over $7 million a year as a bench warmer.
method
Apr 17 2005, 05:16
QUOTE(Vice King @ Apr 15 2005, 23:59)
it never ceases to amaze what money does to people..
$49 million in 7 years.. thats 7mill a year. thats more than enough money.
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Not that really matters, but TO won't see most of that money. I would bet that his contract is back-loaded and would have been reworked if he became too expensive or cut outright. A quick bit of research shows TO will only receive 3.5 million in 2005, after making 9 million this past season.
I see faults on both sides of this arguement. On one hand, TO signed this contract and should honor it. On the other hand, I know teams will cut players when they feel they have to.
bombdrop
Apr 20 2005, 21:13
the $8 mill signing bonus is the problem TO has with his contract. He's making the 7 year $49 mill contract, but if he were to get hurt or something happens and he cant play, none of that 49 million is guaranteed. He wants a higher signing bonus, one that is comparible to the highest paid WR in the league.
The Chicago Bears sign Muhsin Muhammed to a whatever year deal for whatever amount of money, but the main part of that was the $15 million sign bonus, and thats what TO is after.
In a league where if youre unable to play and a team can release you, youre screwed....you need that guarantee.
Steffan
Apr 29 2005, 22:28
danniboi
Apr 30 2005, 00:04
QUOTE(-=SD=- @ Apr 15 2005, 18:10)
To be fair, he is one of the best WR's playing right now and if you compare his salary to other top WR's then it's easy to see why he wants it changed..
Moss w/Vikings - 8 years for $75 million.
Harrison w/Colts - 7 years for $67 million.
Owens w/Eagles - 7 years for $49 million.
[Rookie] Fitzgerald w/Arizona - 6 years for $40 base upto $60 million.
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Your right about the type of player he is and the money he makes compaired to the other receivers in the NFL.
You just have to think why he signed for so much less than he thinks he's worth (which IMO I think he didn't, the other players are just overpaid), what's the point of having an agent? Also why would you even settle for so much less?
IMO T.O. is the last person I would want to have on my team if I owned an NFL team. He thinks he's the MJ of the NFL, even better. He's just an all around prick and bad teammate. How can you dog McNabb, McNabb is involved in every play, unlike T.O.
Laughing-Man
May 3 2005, 16:29
QUOTE(danniboi @ Apr 29 2005, 19:04)
IMO T.O. is the last person I would want to have on my team if I owned an NFL team. He thinks he's the MJ of the NFL, even better. He's just an all around prick and bad teammate. How can you dog McNabb, McNabb is involved in every play, unlike T.O.[right][snapback]585849490[/snapback][/right]
Don't worry, it doen't matter if he is taking shots at McNabb. Everyone in Phialdelphia knows its McNabb's team. It is not like it was in San Francisco where the fans had no loyalty to Garcia. Owens can't win this one.
finality
May 3 2005, 17:01
I see Owens being traded.
I love what TO brings on the field, but he hurts us off the field. Plus, we got Reggie!
bigbluepride35
May 3 2005, 18:06
I'm thrilled McNabb spoke up. Being a Giants fan I despise the Eagles but I have huge amounts of respect for McNabb. T.O. has to remember that he wasn't even there to help the Eagles do the ONE thing they got him to do. THey managed to get home-field in the past so it's not like they accomplished anything new during the regular season. He wasn't there for he NFC championship game and they made it over the hump without him. Now, I'm not saying he did nothing because the guy is an incredible receiver but he seriously has to shut up and play. Why would you dog the guy who gets you the ball when he's a perennial Pro-Bowler and could easily be up for MVP each year? I hope Reggie Brown turns out to be a superstar and T.O. gets humbled if he does anything stupid like try to sit out and this kid takes his spot. I doubt it's likely but I can dream, lol.
Laughing-Man
May 3 2005, 19:47
QUOTE(bigbluepride35 @ May 3 2005, 13:06)
I'm thrilled McNabb spoke up. Being a Giants fan I despise the Eagles but I have huge amounts of respect for McNabb. T.O. has to remember that he wasn't even there to help the Eagles do the ONE thing they got him to do. THey managed to get home-field in the past so it's not like they accomplished anything new during the regular season. He wasn't there for he NFC championship game and they made it over the hump without him. Now, I'm not saying he did nothing because the guy is an incredible receiver but he seriously has to shut up and play. Why would you dog the guy who gets you the ball when he's a perennial Pro-Bowler and could easily be up for MVP each year? I hope Reggie Brown turns out to be a superstar and T.O. gets humbled if he does anything stupid like try to sit out and this kid takes his spot. I doubt it's likely but I can dream, lol.
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Todd Pinkston will steal all TO's thunder this season, you just watch!
Actually if anyone is to do it, it would be Greg Lewis if they would actually start him.
IceDogg
May 3 2005, 21:22
Is anyone really surprised by TO doing this? I mean this is typical TO. He thinks he's Gods gift to football.
Laughing-Man
May 5 2005, 15:53
QUOTE(IceDogg @ May 3 2005, 16:22)
Is anyone really surprised by TO doing this? I mean this is typical TO. He thinks he's Gods gift to football.
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I do not think anyone is suprised about this. I think his new agent put ideals into his head about getting more money and now he is having dellusions of gradure. The Philadelphia Inquirer said today if he doesn't show up for mini-camp they are going to start fining him $6000 a day just like they did with Duce Staley. I think like with previous player holdouts like with Staley, the team is moving on without him. And if he does show up, Reid will own him the entire season. If there is one thing that Reid is know for, it is tough love.
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