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PseudoRandomDragon
I looked around at some places and got a choice of some noise canceling headphones. I'm leaning tword the Philips HN110, they seem to be the best, but I wanted to ask of your opinions. Okay so here are the choices:

Philips HN110 - $60
RCA HPNC200 - $50
Sony - $50

You guys would know better than me. Thanks smile.gif
ljames28
Just going by looks and makes, i think the philips would probably be the best,
Monkeh
Are you sure you want a noise-cancelling headphone?

Closed headphones also provide isolation to a certain degree, and they have superior sound compared to noise-cancelling headphones in the same price range.
PseudoRandomDragon
The Philips HN110 close around the ear (is that what you mean?). The only other ones I found to go around the ear were the Koss UR19 (30$), but they suck.
OfF3nSiV3
QUOTE(Monkeh @ Apr 18 2005, 19:57)
Are you sure you want a noise-cancelling headphone?

Closed headphones also provide isolation to a certain degree, and they have superior sound compared to noise-cancelling headphones in the same price range.
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what you mean superior? i don't think so but i know nothing about it =P
i prefer the phillips ones
cswadner
I prefer sound isolating to noise cancelling (they get bulky).

Might want to consider something from Shure.... E3Cs are wonderful!
Monkeh
Closed = the driver is sealed and doesn't leak noise like open headphones. It doesn't isolate 10db, but the isolation is usually enough for normal use.

If you're getting this for use on airplanes or around really noisy areas, 10db isolation is not going to be enough.

As for sound quality, from what I've read, these headphones are no match for the Sony Eggo, Sennheiser HD270, Sennheiser PX200, Sony V6 etc., which are all closed headphones in the same price range.

If you want noise reduction, get canalphones from Shure or Etymotic (they isolate 20db+). If you want sound quality yet still want some noise reduction, get closed headphones.

I suggest that you head over here: http://www6.head-fi.org and ask the true audiophiles before you make a final decision.
PrototypeX2
QUOTE(Monkeh @ Apr 18 2005, 16:59)
Closed = the driver is sealed and doesn't leak noise like open headphones. It doesn't isolate 10db, but the isolation is usually enough for normal use.

If you're getting this for use on airplanes or around really noisy areas, 10db isolation is not going to be enough.

As for sound quality, from what I've read, these headphones are no match for the Sony Eggo, Sennheiser HD270, Sennheiser PX200, Sony V6 etc., which are all closed headphones in the same price range.

If you want noise reduction, get canalphones from Shure or Etymotic (they isolate 20db+). If you want sound quality yet still want some noise reduction, get closed headphones.

I suggest that you head over here: http://www6.head-fi.org and ask the true audiophiles before you make a final decision.
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I agree.
I personally got a pair of ex81, and they provide a good bit of isolation.
Canalphones are excellent and provide excellent isolation.
If you still want isolating headband-headphones, I recommend something like Senn PXC-250, but if the price does matter, it's much better to stick with regular headphones.
bangbang023
Sony MDR-v150 is what I would recommend. They are closed ear and only cost 20 bucks. The sound is actually pretty good.
PrototypeX2
QUOTE(bangbang023 @ Apr 18 2005, 19:32)
Sony MDR-v150 is what I would recommend. They are closed ear and only cost 20 bucks. The sound is actually pretty good.
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Even though you are our honoured moderator, I will have to disagree with you.
DO Not buy any Sony V series. (With the exception of V6)
All of the bass-drives of the V series are unusually big and produce super big fat giant bass that will muffle your music. There is no clarity at all; just produces a one huge overlapped sound. If you enjoy listening to this monotonous mono-sounds, especially in a closed-cans that's supposed to have a big soundstage, do not hesitate to buy one.
However, if you are more of a stereo (Which I'm pretty sure most of you are) sound guy, then stay away from these.
bangbang023
QUOTE(PrototypeX2 @ Apr 19 2005, 00:58)
Even though you are our honoured moderator, I will have to disagree with you.
DO Not buy any Sony V series. (With the exception of V6)
All of the bass-drives of the V series are unusually big and produce super big fat giant bass that will muffle your music. There is no clarity at all; just produces a one huge overlapped sound. If you enjoy listening to this monotonous mono-sounds, especially in a closed-cans that's supposed to have a big soundstage, do not hesitate to buy one.
However, if you are more of a stereo (Which I'm pretty sure most of you are) sound guy, then stay away from these.
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I have these and love them. The sounds, especially mids, are much clearer than other headphones I've used and there are reviews that agree with me. There does not seem to be any overemphasis of the lows at all.
PrototypeX2
QUOTE(bangbang023 @ Apr 19 2005, 20:26)
I have these and love them. The sounds, especially mids, are much clearer than other headphones I've used and there are reviews that agree with me. There does not seem to be any overemphasis of the lows at all.
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Well I personally think that these are horrible cans. (Don't take it personally please)
I had one of these, as well as a v250, and tried my friends v300.
They all sounded very muddy to me with exaggerated bass.
bangbang023
Oh well, they are pretty decent none the less. with a 98 sensitivty and 18 - 22,000 range, stats wise they do pretty well. I know on my mp3 player, I actually find the bass just right. It seems to be on the same levels as the mids and highs without over exxagerating for the bass addicts out there.
PrototypeX2
QUOTE(bangbang023 @ Apr 19 2005, 21:50)
Oh well, they are pretty decent none the less. with a 98 sensitivty and 18 - 22,000 range, stats wise they do pretty well. I know on my mp3 player, I actually find the bass just right. It seems to be on the same levels as the mids and highs without over exxagerating for the bass addicts out there.
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I guess this differs from people to people.
Have you every tried Sony MDR-EX51/71s?
They are one of the most unbalanced phones I have every heard, with their super-bass boost that you can only experience from products of Sony.
But somehow, those phones show more clarity than the MDR-V series to me.
bangbang023
those ar earbuds no? I dislike buds so I have never tried them. I've been very picky about my headphones. Honestly, my v150's are a little beat up and I want to replace them but I can't find another pair with as decent a frequency range and stylish look. The few good looking one's I've seen are like 30 - 20,000 which is just terrible.
parithon
Too bad that is the only options you gave for a choice in noise conceling headphones.

Allthough the Bose Noise Cancelling Headphones: Boise QuiteComfort 2, are not cheap, they are the best noise cancelling headphones bar none, imho.
Matt
sennheiser pc150s are what ive been using for a little over a year now. search for them on ecost.com. i think you will like them more than the others.
PrototypeX2
QUOTE(Matt @ Apr 19 2005, 22:53)
sennheiser pc150s are what ive been using for a little over a year now.  search for them on ecost.com.  i think you will like them more than the others.
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PC150s are headsets. They aren't really meant for music.
PrototypeX2
QUOTE(parithon @ Apr 19 2005, 22:44)
Too bad that is the only options you gave for a choice in noise conceling headphones.

Allthough the Bose Noise Cancelling Headphones: Boise QuiteComfort 2, are not cheap, they are the best noise cancelling headphones bar none, imho.
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IMHO, they are one of the most terrible headphones for the price.
Matt
QUOTE(PrototypeX2 @ Apr 20 2005, 18:21)
PC150s are headsets. They aren't really meant for music.
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lol what kind of logic are you using? have you ever used them? i have them, ive also used many other headphones and the only sub 70 dollar headphones/headset that hold a candle to pc150s are the plantronics dsp500. the bass and sound quality is premium, and when played at high volumes the music doesnt distort or pop/crack.
PseudoRandomDragon
QUOTE(parithon @ Apr 20 2005, 05:44)
Allthough the Bose Noise Cancelling Headphones: Boise QuiteComfort 2, are not cheap, they are the best noise cancelling headphones bar none, imho.
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I'm going to pay $300 for a pair of headphones. Yeah right.

QUOTE
The few good looking one's I've seen are like 30 - 20,000 which is just terrible.

Then what is a good range?
djsaad1
I have the shure ec3's wich are great. I am pretty sure they make an ec2 which is a little cheaper. I would recomend shure though.
PrototypeX2
QUOTE(Matt @ Apr 21 2005, 12:37)
lol what kind of logic are you using?  have you ever used them?  i have them, ive also used many other headphones and the only sub 70 dollar headphones/headset that hold a candle to pc150s are the plantronics dsp500.  the bass and sound quality is premium, and when played at high volumes the music doesnt distort or pop/crack.
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What kind of logic am I using?
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Sorry, normal headphones do not have a mic built on.
Oh yeah, even Sennheiser website shows you that they are headsets specifically made for computer/communication use.
http://www.sennheisercommunications.com/pr-pc150.html
Monkeh
Yeah, headphones can't really be compared to headsets. Besides, walking around with a headset might get you some unwanted attention biggrin.gif
bangbang023
QUOTE(PseudoRandomDragon @ Apr 21 2005, 16:13)
I'm going to pay $300 for a pair of headphones. Yeah right.
Then what is a good range?
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you want something with at least a 20 - 22,000 freq. range.
PrototypeX2
Here's a list of headphones you should take a look at.
I got this from Headphone Wizard at one of Head-Fier's website.
Manufacturer Model Driver Type Type Headband Enclosure Material Driver Type Street Price Active Reviews Compare
AKG Acoustics K24P Dynamic Open Supraaural Single Plastic Dynamic US$35 0
AKG Acoustics K26P Dynamic Closed Supraaural Single Plastic Dynamic US$50 0
Audio-Technica ATH-EZ5CX Dynamic Clipons None Plastic Dynamic US$25 1 (view)
Beyerdynamic DT231 Dynamic Closed Circumaural Double Plastic Dynamic US$60 1 (view)
Grado Labs Inc SR40 Dynamic Open Circumaural Single Plastic Dynamic US$50 1 (view)
Koss KSC35 Dynamic Clipons None Plastic Dynamic US$30 0
Koss KSC75 Dynamic Clipons None Plastic Dynamic US$20 2 (view)
Koss Portapro Dynamic Open Supraaural Single Plastic Dynamic US$50 4 (view)
Koss PRO-4AAT Dynamic Closed Circumaural Single Titanium Dynamic US$64 0
Koss Sportapro Dynamic Open Supraaural None Plastic Dynamic US$30 0
Koss The Plug Dynamic Canal None Plastic Dynamic US$10 0
Koss UR20 Dynamic Closed Circumaural Double Plastic Dynamic US$25 0
Koss UR40 Dynamic Closed Circumaural Single Plastic Dynamic US$40 0
Sennheiser HD200 Dynamic Closed Circumaural Single Plastic Dynamic US$60 0
Sennheiser HD202 Dynamic Closed Supraaural Single Plastic Dynamic US$19 0
Sennheiser HD212 Pro Dynamic Closed Supraaural Single Plastic Dynamic US$40 1 (view)
Sennheiser HD270 Dynamic Closed Circumaural Single Plastic Dynamic US$50 2 (view)
Sennheiser HD437 Dynamic Open Supraaural Single Plastic Dynamic US$20 0
Sennheiser HD457 Dynamic Open Supraaural Single Plastic Dynamic US$26 0
Sennheiser HD497 Dynamic Open Supraaural Single Plastic Dynamic US$50 0
Sennheiser HD500 Dynamic Open Circumaural Single Plastic Dynamic US$50 0
Sennheiser PX100 Dynamic Open Supraaural Single Plastic Dynamic US$50 3 (view)
Sennheiser PX200 Dynamic Closed Supraaural Single Plastic Dynamic US$50 1 (view)
Sharp MD33 Dynamic Canal None Plastic Dynamic US$39 1 (view)
Sony MDR-EX70 Dynamic Canal None Plastic Dynamic US$45 0
Sony MDR-EX71 Dynamic Canal None Plastic Dynamic US$45 5 (view)
Sony MDR-EX81 Dynamic Canal None Plastic Dynamic US$60 1 (view)

All under $70.

Oh What I bolded is what I have currently, here's a pic.
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XeroxZer0
I have the Beyerdynamic DT440, they are an open design, have a neutral sound with a frequency of 30,000Hz, comfortable to ware for long periods of time, and there is no need for a headphone amplifier.
PrototypeX2
QUOTE(XeroxZer0 @ Apr 21 2005, 22:46)
I have the Beyerdynamic DT440, they are an open design, have a neutral sound with a frequency of 30,000Hz, comfortable to ware for long periods of time, and there is no need for a headphone amplifier.
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Really nice.
Have oyu had any experience with the DT231?
XeroxZer0
QUOTE(PrototypeX2 @ Apr 22 2005, 17:48)
Really nice.
Have oyu had any experience with the DT231?
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No sorry, these are the first expensive headphones that I have purchased. The only reason I got them was because my Plantronics set gave in on me, so I thought I would look at some of the more expensive ones on the market.
dL
I just purchased Sony MDR-EX51LP in-ear and they're awesome!! Way better than the iPod earphones.

dL
PrototypeX2
QUOTE(dL @ Apr 22 2005, 20:33)
I just purchased Sony MDR-EX51LP in-ear and they're awesome!! Way better than the iPod earphones.

dL
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Yes, it should be a HUGE improvement from iPod earbuds.
And even as it burns in, it's gonna sound better.
While personally I don't like the ex51/71, I really like the ex81.
dL
There's no difference in sound quality between ex51 and ex71 -_-'' yet it's $20 CAD difference, just for the longer wire? chrome? and a friggin case? Give me a break.

dL
Vorenus
QUOTE(PrototypeX2 @ Apr 22 2005, 23:39)
Yes, it should be a HUGE improvement from iPod earbuds.
And even as it burns in, it's gonna sound better.
While personally I don't like the ex51/71, I really like the ex81.
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I just read a review of the Sony EX81's that begs to differ: http://www.wyattsays.com/
Monkeh
QUOTE(dL @ Apr 22 2005, 22:44)
There's no difference in sound quality between ex51 and ex71 -_-'' yet it's $20 CAD difference, just for the longer wire? chrome? and a friggin case? Give me a break.

dL
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Yup, they use the same drivers. EX71 comes with a different outer design and an extension cord, that's it.
Valerus
QUOTE(PseudoRandomDragon @ Apr 18 2005, 14:20)
I looked around at some places and got a choice of some noise canceling headphones. I'm leaning tword the Philips HN110, they seem to be the best, but I wanted to ask of your opinions. Okay so here are the choices:

Philips HN110 - $60
RCA HPNC200 - $50
Sony - $50

You guys would know better than me. Thanks smile.gif
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The RCA and Sony's seem like they suck and wouldn't work.
PrototypeX2
QUOTE(Monkeh @ Apr 22 2005, 21:01)
Yup, they use the same drivers. EX71 comes with a different outer design and an extension cord, that's it.
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Oh the new ex51s are supposed to have ex81 drivers from now on I think.
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