Well i am planning on getting this, if anyone have it. Please tell me what it is like? Just like a mini review on it

VAN SMELLS LIKE POOP.

I would go for iRiver H10, it looks much nicer and has a vibrant colour screen etc.

But I heard that iRiver H10 has poor sound quality, correct me if I'm wrong.

dL

Yeah, that was what i was afraid of. Does the H10 sound THAT bad compared to the Zen Micro?

You got to ask some iRiver H10 owners. I, myself, am a proud owner of my iPod with the mdr-ex51 earphones from Sony. My iPod sounds awesome now! Maybe you should consider the iPod Mini, it's great!!

dL

Ok, thanks for your help dL.

But i have a few queries.

1) Reading from a few reviews. Some of them mention that the iRiver is never completely off, it is in standby. So it sucks a bit of battery life, is this true? If it is, how bad is the suck?

2) I can drag and drop my songs into the player right?

3) Can i drop my music onto the iRiver within folders, and will recognise it right?

I've owned an iPod mini, a Zen Micro, and now own an H10.
To say about sound quality, the Zen Micro is superior over the both.
H10 comes close second. They actually sound pretty identical, but to my ears, Zen Micro produced a more detailed sound.
However, I do really like the H10 for 31 EQ choices. (Although I only use two)
The iPod mini sounds just flat and boring compared to these, and EQing doesn't help at all.
For built quality, i don't know, but the iPod mini seems like well made. This is the only thing I particularly like about iPod mini. H10 is second again, with their super-elegant design. The Zen Micro feels a big bulky as well as really fragile because of the solid plastic body.

I do really like my H10, but for a someone who seeks a better SQ than other things, Zen Micro is the best choice.
But for someone who likes best for over all features, H10 is the best.
I don't know, the iPod mini just doesn't feel like a player to me especially when I see someone who has one with less than 10 songs on it.

For your queries:
1). Both Zen Micro and the H10 are on a Standby state when you turn it off. For the iRiver, that will turn off when there is no use for 12 hours. For Zen Micro, it is at 4 hours.(From the new firmware)
2). Yes for both.
3). You'll have to save it as a Playlist.

I own a iRiver H10, ever since the new firmware came out, sound quality greatly improved. (@ least that's what my ears tells me). iRiver looks elegant like someone said above, as for battery life, it last between 7-9 hours (That's cause I keep the using functions and the screen is on like 1/4 of the time). Otherwise, I am sure you will get more hours!

Don't forget that there is another new firmware available. The v2.01 has increased stability than the v2.00.
About the battery life, I get about 6-7 hours. It's mostly because of SRS WOW and Custom EQ, as well as going back and forth between playlists.

Will do. You sir are wrong. I have an H10 and the sound quality is excellent, it's just that the buds it comes with (Sennheiser MX400) are really crappy. Upgrade to some nice headphones or buds and the sound is awesome. iRiver has also made an FM transmitter that is powered by the unit and fits to the top. With the new firmware, the song order is no longer a problem. It even comes with a fairly nice rubber case. Just don't read the Cnet review, as they have become iPod biased and it's a bit sad for them. H10 wont disappoint. $230 now at Best Buy after rebates this week.

lol. Sorry about all the questions but i have to make sure

1. How is the battery on the Zen Micro (Averagely)?

2. How much hours (averagely) does the H10 battery hold up for?

lol sorry but just ONE more question

But do i HAVE to make a playlist for every folder, cant the H10 read from directories????

gah panda you could have edited.
i voted h10 as i like it more, but I am an ipod mini man

1). 8~9 hours but depends on how you are using it.
2). Most people get 7~8 hours on MiscticRiver but I get 6~7.


I don't know, I did.
For picture folders they seem to read it.

Ok, thanks a lot for your help PrototypeX2. I have decided to go for the iRiver H10.

No problem.
Good luck and have fun!

Yay! (Zoidberg voice,)
I get to keep the box over the weekend to evade your parent's!
I can pretend I have one!

lol yup

My PC uses windows 2000, can I use H10?

Yes. H10 is compatible with Windows 2000 and XP.

hehe, i ordered my H10 a few days ago, was dispatched from amazon last night. Will arrive tuesday to thursday (yesh, i'm cheap and went for freee delivery xD). Can't wait .

PrototypeX2: could you reccomend some good headphones to purchase for use with it? =x

~Seb

Well i have finally bought a Zen Micro. Got a H10 first, then returned it then got the Zen Micro.

Sennheiser PX100/200
Grado SR60
Koss KSC-35/75
Sony MDR-EX81SL
Sony MDR-D22/66SL
Audio-Technica ATH-FC7
Koss PortaPros
BeyerDynamic DT231
Sony MDR-E888SL
Sennheiser HD 202/212 Pro
Sennheiser HD 497
Sennheiser HD 280
Sennheiser HD 25-1
Shure E2C
Shure E3C
Shure E4C
Etymotic ER6/ER6i
Sony MDR-XD100/200/300/400
Sony MDR-SA1000/2000/3000/4000/5000
Sony Qualia 01
And the list goes on...
What's your budget?

why?

Because of the screen. I would have went for the H10. But it was the colour screen. I normally use my player outdoors, and when i tried them outside today, i couldnt see anything at all on the screen.

lol....

anyway.... my budged i guess is around < £30?

~Seb

Yup.

30 pounds is about 60 US dollars....
So:
Sennheiser PX100/200
Koss KSC-35/75
Sony MDR-EX81SL
Sony MDR-D22/66SL
Audio-Technica ATH-FC7
Koss PortaPros
BeyerDynamic DT231
Sony MDR-E888SL
Sennheiser HD 202/212 Pro
Sennheiser HD 497
Sony MDR-XD100/200/300/400

Hey, thanks for that, i've decided the headphones provided (Sennheiser) are fine. They seem very good quality

~Seb