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Epimetheus
Since this forum is so racked with Xbox 360 topics I said to my self; would it not be a grand idea to have something other than a Xbox 360 Thread...And then the fight started.

*Little Demon Voice*
HEHEHE! Yes this ought to put those damn Xbox fans to pain, and cause some hell on the fourms as well! No one likes Nintendo any more so why not! HEHEHE!
*Little Angel Voice*
"Do unto others has you would- "
*Demon voice* Shut your trap you white wrought nancy ******! Post it now damn it!

Oh ok fine.

Anyway.

Nintendo has probably the most mysterious under-wraps console coming out this year or the next, yet no one has even spoken a word of interest over what they have planned, and as they have stated they're going to try to bring new things to the table other than just enhanced graphics like the PS3 and xbox 360 users will be getting.

So who here besides my self and my Daemons *HEHEHE!* are interested in their console? Possibly buying it when it comes out? And !OMGWTFBBQ! think it'll blow the other two away?

By the way no flame wars, no Console vs Console wars either, yes the description was a insult but only teasingly. devil.gif

So the three questions or observations are:

Are you vaguely interested?
Will you be purchasing it when it comes out? (depending on what they show)
And !OMGWTFBBQ! Do you believe it'll blow the other two way in what they may/have planned? (requires a bit of foresight and fanboyism for this question)
Trauma
As one of them who bought the gamecube on its releaseday, I'm doing the same for the revolution. I'm sure it'll be great, as all Nintendo consoles are in my opinion. smile.gif I'm excited.
Axel
Nintendo has lost it. They should go back to their roots and start making playing cards again.
Otis
I am very interested in the new nintendo console.
Just wish there was more details available.
I will never spend money on m$ or sony hardware cause that is my choice since nes started my gaming.
Goldenmask64
Nintedo has always had the top consules in my opinion, but that is because they release the style of games I like. You see, i like games such as The Legend of Zelda series, more fantasy and story oriented, that to me is the type of genre that nintendo usually develops. I like the Ps2 and the XBOX for the simulator and realism aspects of their games.

Now to answer your questions.

1. I am definately interested and any sites or info you can throw my way would be greatly appreciated.

2. Like darkyi I bought the gamecube on its release day and I plan to do the same for the next system.

3. I think it will blow the other two away.
starsky2
I just wnated to say your post wasn't funny so you should stop trying to act funny with !OMGWTFBBQ and your little imaginary friends you call daemons.


I personally am not interested in console gaming anymore, There just computers 'made' for gaming, so just buy a good computer with good graphics and u can play all the games you want.
njlouch
My tuppence is this:

I am an XBOX gamer, will stay an XBOX gamer for a long time. Not because I am going to get XBOX360, but because I like the system I already have.

I do not think much of the GC's graphics, but I respect the fact that it is THE system for "party fun" games and gameplay > graphics!!!! Monkeyball, etc, just rock, and for that reason, I am considering a GC.
MetaLRasaM
QUOTE(SimNet @ Apr 26 2005, 11:36)
I just wnated to say your post wasn't funny so you should stop trying to act funny with  !OMGWTFBBQ and your little imaginary friends you call daemons.
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wow man..wth is wrong with you?
some of you guys really need to get laid and take all this tension outta ur system..if you don like it...LEAVE!!stop being a dumbass for a change...
ppl like you are the season why the world this ugly and ignorant. sick.gif

on topic..
im kinda excited...the thing is i really donnu ANYTHING...so i got nothing to be excited about u know? i heard the new controlers..and ill be looking forward to it..as for games...i do love the mario games..never got into zelda...but i assume its gonna rock. res evil was creewzyy!
im more of an xbox fan for fps and XBMC...i think its just great.
but no way in hell im buyin a consol on the release date..i paid 700 CANADIAN DOLLARS for my xbox on the release date (nov 15th) and 2 games..halo and nfl fever..so NO way im doing that again..cuz a month later it droped like 200 dollars man!
ill wait till theres a mod chip out or somethin:)(for xbox 2)
SweetRiverBaynes
QUOTE(MetaLRasaM @ Apr 26 2005, 11:47)
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Ah yes the Season I put on all my food. The Season of Ignorance. BAM!
x-byte
I'm very interested in what the Revolution will do. Reading about the rumors about some stereotopic view lately really excites me. But they are only rumors. Gonna be watching the live feed from Nintendo's conferance at E3 for sure smile.gif
Epimetheus
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I just wnated to say your post wasn't funny so you should stop trying to act funny with !OMGWTFBBQ and your little imaginary friends you call daemons.


I personally am not interested in console gaming anymore, There just computers 'made' for gaming, so just buy a good computer with good graphics and u can play all the games you want.




Then why the did you post in here? Just to insult me and tell me to get a computer?
Already have one, but console games are also fun, so EXCUSE me.
Amnesia
I'll be supporting Nintendo till the end.
They helped start a revolution in gaming so the title is perfect.

@Axel, i think you should go back shoving cards up.... whoops almost lost my head there.

If you dont like Nintendo go to a Sony or MS thread.
Why do people fail to realize that answers are always SIMPLE.
Mx²
QUOTE(darkyi @ Apr 26 2005, 13:17)
As one of them who bought the gamecube on its releaseday, I'm doing the same for the revolution. I'm sure it'll be great, as all Nintendo consoles are in my opinion. smile.gif I'm excited.
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100% same biggrin.gif
Acezo
As of now I'm not much interested in the Revolution, because Nintendo hasn't brought enough to the table with the Gamecube that holds my interest. I was a diehard N64 fan, and when the Gamecube first released I didn't favor one console over the other. It's just that over time either my tastes have changed or Nintendo's swerved off course (IMHO).

Unless there are some games in development for it that look interesting, I won't be buying one at launch. Within a year or two of its release I'll have one regardless however.

As for if Nintendo will blow anyone away...I can't say since I don't know what's coming, but if something good than they should be able to "wow" the enthusiastic gamers. The average joe will be a lot harder to impress however (all this is my opinion).
ragn4rokk 2.0
I'm looking forward to it very much. I believe Nintendo has made mistakes in the past- namely the Virtual Boy- but they've always delivered such brilliant gaming experiences overall. Zelda? Metroid? Mario? All three might as well be synonymous with "video game."
.will
QUOTE(Axel @ Apr 26 2005, 08:17)
Nintendo has lost it.  They should go back to their roots and start making playing cards again.
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Go troll another forum.
Dale
QUOTE([X)
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if there will be a live feed. and i won't be at school during the time.. (or working) for sure i'll be joining you cool.gif .

after getting my DS and understanding how fun touchscreens can be. i hope it comes with touchscreens and a mario party upon launch so i can have a mario party with touchscreen mini games yes.gif

i love the mini games in Mario 64 DS

and this might be my first picking up a console on a launch.. thats how much i am anticipating it (if there is a mario party upon launch tongue.gif )
Hipster
Nintendo is original but uninnovative. I really don't think there is room for them in the next gen console market. They should just develop games.
Blaine
QUOTE(darkyi @ Apr 26 2005, 07:17)
As one of them who bought the gamecube on its releaseday, I'm doing the same for the revolution. I'm sure it'll be great, as all Nintendo consoles are in my opinion. smile.gif I'm excited.
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Sumeet
If it has free online im in. If i have to pay for online im getting a dog. confused.gif

Online should be free, because the Big N pres says he doesnt like the idea of paying for it.


But the main reason i'll get one is because Nintendo Sticks by its products. For example there are going to be some killer games coming out for GC. And the system life is almost over. I cant say the same towards Xbox and Ps2
bangbang023
QUOTE(ragn4rokk 2.0 @ Apr 26 2005, 17:11)
I'm looking forward to it very much. I believe Nintendo has made mistakes in the past- namely the Virtual Boy- but they've always delivered such brilliant gaming experiences overall. Zelda? Metroid? Mario? All three might as well be synonymous with "video game."
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And there in lies the problem. They rely on a few characters to save their asses, all too often.
Kupo-Cheer
Seeing as how the only thing I really like from Nintendo is their games (Mario, Metroid, Zelda, etc) I'm kinda hoping they go the way of Sega nad just develop games. Then again, since Nintendo is a lot stronger in Japan, with the Xbox being nothing over there, I don't think they'll do that. It has the plus side of giving the industry more competition which = good for the gamers. (better games, less expensive consoles/games/accessories...)

And I definitely see the DS as another Virtual Boy. I see Nintendo failing in the US because of their emphasis on children's games and the fact that they made the DS, then abandoned it. There really aren't many good games for the ds, and I know that mine is just collecting dust while I use my psp or gba.
BroChaos
QUOTE(SimNet @ Apr 26 2005, 08:36)
I just wnated to say your post wasn't funny so you should stop trying to act funny with  !OMGWTFBBQ and your little imaginary friends you call daemons.
I personally am not interested in console gaming anymore, There just computers 'made' for gaming, so just buy a good computer with good graphics and u can play all the games you want.
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and you apparently haven't priced a decent cpu, motherboard, ram, video card and hard drive recently, have you?

you can't play current games on a $300 - 500 PC. Just the video card required to play games like HL2 and Doom3 are almost the price of a whole console. So just buying a good computer is not really an option for a lot of people.

Anyways, i'm very skeptical of nintendo these days. I hope i'm wrong, but it feels like they have fallen on hard times, and are just coming up with gimmicks (DS) as new products. IMO, games have been graphics driver since the day they were invented, and the progress of graphics is the only thing constantly improving. The stance of "graphics don't matter" is something i honestly don't believe is true, or else most games would still be playing atari, and no one would have a ps2 or xbox.

again, i really hope i'm wrong, but IMO, the graphics need to be as good or better than PS3/Xbox, AND they need to have something innovative. otherwise it's just gonna be the same old games all over again.
Doli
QUOTE(Hipster @ Apr 26 2005, 17:36)
Nintendo is original but uninnovative.  I really don't think there is room for them in the next gen console market.  They should just develop games.
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NEVER........
and by some chance that happens (better not happen) they better back up Sony...i dont want to see a Zelda on Xbox pinch.gif
Laughing-Man
I do not even know why some of you would suggest that Nintendo should just stick to software. They have billions in reserve and make a profit each year, and they have only had one quater in their history they did not make a profit just because of the currency exchange rate. Sega was never in that good of shape to keep itself afloat. When the Dreamcast was coming out their was too much hype (much of it false) for the PS2 that the PS2 just put the nail in the coffin.

I don't hear anyone tell Apple to stop making their hardware even though Windows PC manufacturers own the PC market and that Apple should just stick to software. Apple owns barely any of their market just like Nintendo and they too are a profitable company just like Nintendo. I don't even hear any of you saying MS is should stop selling the XBox considering it has only sold 1 million more then the GameCube and has only made a profit for one quater the whole time it has been out. If the XBox was made by another company who did not have billions in the bank because of MS's other divisons backing it up, then it would have went the way of the dodo long ago with the XBox's 1.2 billion dollars in loses.
Dale
QUOTE(BroChaos @ Apr 27 2005, 00:47)
and you apparently haven't priced a decent cpu, motherboard, ram, video card and hard drive recently, have you? 

you can't play current games on a $300 - 500 PC.  Just the video card required to play games like HL2 and Doom3 are almost the price of a whole console.  So just buying a good computer is not really an option for a lot of people.

Anyways, i'm very skeptical of nintendo these days.  I hope i'm wrong, but it feels like they have fallen on hard times, and are just coming up with gimmicks (DS) as new products.  IMO, games have been graphics driver since the day they were invented, and the progress of graphics is the only thing constantly improving.  The stance of "graphics don't matter" is something i honestly don't believe is true, or else most games would still be playing atari, and no one would have a ps2 or xbox. 

again, i really hope i'm wrong, but IMO, the graphics need to be as good or better than PS3/Xbox, AND they need to have something innovative.  otherwise it's just gonna be the same old games all over again.
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I've been playing games since I was 5 years old, and if there was one thing i noticed about games. They lost their feel from back in the day.

I have many reasons why I choose Nintendo. but the one reason that keeps me bringing back is the one reason everybody hates nintendo for. its "kiddy" image. Nintendo games are the best multiplayer by far in my opinion. Its easy to get all your friends playing Donkey Konga, and any Mario Party title. But i'd say onlly 60% of my friends like HALO (I also hate HALO personally). Super Smash brothers is a must (N64 version = YAAAAAAAAa w00t.gif ). Zelda 4 swords has one of the most perfect and innovative battle modes i ever seen. Nintendo knows what I like and my friends like, and if you can see past the curtain youd see that Nintendo has its kiddy image for a reason. its just fun!

People are ranting on about graphics and how they are to be better. Sure they can be better. But is that all your expecting in a next generation console? ohmy.gif I was raised on Monkey Island and the Original Mario. Graphics back then didn't mean a thing and to this day they still don't mean a thing to me.

What i look for in a console is good 4 players (not online). Nothing beats getting together with a bunch of friends and beating them at Mario Party/Mario Kart/Super Monkey Balls/Donkey Konga. Mario Party is the best (i have a friend who has a funny voice and cant speak into the mic quite right laugh.gif . you could **** yourself laughing.)

to sum up what i just wrote. Nintendo is perfect as they are, I couldn't ask more out of them. I don't regret buying a gamecube. and they make 90% their games the way i like them (unlike other companys that put graphics over gameplay.. etc.). Although I am not knocking the x-box or Playstation 2. Some of them do have my type of games. They just don't have as much of the same type of games I like.

As long as this post is, i could rant on for pages about why I prefer Nintendo over the competition. but like i said above. They make the best party games by far yes.gif
Doli
QUOTE(Dale @ Apr 26 2005, 21:19)
I've been playing games since I was 5 years old, and if there was one thing i noticed about games. They lost their feel from back in the day.

I have many reasons why I choose Nintendo. but the one reason that keeps me bringing back is the one reason everybody hates nintendo for. its "kiddy" image. Nintendo games are the best multiplayer by far in my opinion. Its easy to get all your friends playing Donkey Konga, and any Mario Party title. But i'd say onlly 60% of my friends like HALO (I also hate HALO personally). Super Smash brothers is a must (N64 version = YAAAAAAAAa w00t.gif ). Zelda 4 swords has one of the most perfect and innovative battle modes i ever seen. Nintendo knows what I like and my friends like, and if you can see past the curtain youd see that Nintendo has its kiddy image for a reason. its just fun!

People are ranting on about graphics and how they are to be better. Sure they can be better. But is that all your expecting in a next generation console? ohmy.gif I was raised on Monkey Island and the Original Mario. Graphics back then didn't mean a thing and to this day they still don't mean a thing to me.

What i look for in a console is good 4 players (not online). Nothing beats getting together with a bunch of friends and beating them at Mario Party/Mario Kart/Super Monkey Balls/Donkey Konga. Mario Party is the best (i have a friend who has a funny voice and cant speak into the mic quite right laugh.gif . you could **** yourself laughing.)

to sum up what i just wrote. Nintendo is perfect as they are, I couldn't ask more out of them. I don't regret buying a gamecube. and they make 90% their games the way i like them (unlike other companys that put graphics over gameplay.. etc.). Although I am not knocking the x-box or Playstation 2. Some of them do have my type of games. They just don't have as much of the same type of games I like.

As long as this post is, i could rant on for pages about why I prefer Nintendo over the competition. but like i said above. They make the best party games by far yes.gif
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games arnt what they used to be....graphics over gameplay. Mario 3...ahhh metriod...ahhh (metriod zero..too easy). Bring back the NES/SNES and Genesis game days, thoses were games, no Hollywood-like big budget games like today. Damn it when you get an extra life it should say "1 UP" (Mario). FPS are all looking the same, Halo wasnt special, i had more fun playing Tribes online. Nintendo is just fun, Mario, Link, Samus (she could kick the MC butt without a sweat (sorry, that was the kid in me)). If you didnt grow up on Nintendo like some of us then you really never played real games...It not your fault pinch.gif

Zelda baby
Brandon Live
I think after this generation it will be time for Nintendo to bow out of the console market. They should stick to what they do best: Making Nintendo games.

I bought a GameCube but I never play it. It was great for Smash Bros for a while but that's really the only game I have any interest in playing on the 'cube (I'm sure Metroid Prime is great but when I played it I didn't get hooked). The controllers are the lamest excuse for ergonomics ever concieved, and I feel like I'm going to crush it in my hands. They couldn't even pull off a decent Mario or Zelda game (Wind Waker was okay for the three dungeons it had. But it had so little content compared to its predecessors).

They haven't done anything innovative and have completely failed to have any sort of Online strategy.

Now, if they made games like they used to and made them for Xbox... I'd be a fan again.
amERICa
QUOTE(dolimite35 @ Apr 27 2005, 05:20)
games aren't what they used to be....graphics over gameplay. Mario 3...ahhh metriod...ahhh (metriod zero..too easy). Bring back the NES/SNES and Genesis game days, thoses were games, no Hollywood-like big budget games like today. Damn it when you get an extra life it should say "1 UP" (Mario). FPS are all looking the same, Halo wasnt special, i had more fun playing Tribes online. Nintendo is just fun, Mario, Link, Samus (she could kick the MC butt without a sweat (sorry, that was the kid in me)). If you didnt grow up on Nintendo like some of us then you really never played real games...It not your fault  pinch.gif

Zelda baby
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along that same train of thought, you also can not say you are not impressed with microsofts and sonys entrys. when we were growing up, it was sega and nintendo man. you couldnt even think of anything else, now you have these other two that jumped in, and like it or not, they made their entry well. i like the gamecube a lot, i love the xbox the most (but only because i use it as a media box, due to all the hacks available, i never play games on it except for nes and snes wink.gif ) and ps2 has the standing and majority of games, you cant deny it. nintendo now has competitors. it really boils down to us nintendo kids realizing that "hey, this is an industry, not just games" as we once thought it was. the revolution sounds pretty keen, from the limited data available, but when it comes down to it, i will buy a revolution, but i also bet that i will end up with a ps3 because sony is known for designing their gadgets well, games, tvs, everything, hold a psp and tell me it doesnt LOOK cool. the young ones will snap it up, and their parents will get it for them. as much as we all hate to admit it, nintendo is in for some rough times. nintendo used to be synonymous with gaming, but go out and ask someone on the street now what they think of when you ask them about video games, and you will most likely hear an answer based on what their kids want. nintendo was the BEST for us when we were kids, but we are no longer, and how is nintendo tailoring to them now? i dont want to see mario or zelda end up like sonic, but lets face it.... the revolution is either going to make or break nintendo.

you know how to cast your vote...
khaos34
I'm expecting good things from the Revolution. There's no reason why Nintendo should stop making hardware - they're always making good stuff. And Re: the DS going the way of the Virtual Boy - there's no way it's doing that. Have you tried Yoshi's Touch 'n Go? That's one of the biggest reasons to buy the DS right there :-)
kaede
Nintendo is great, but honestly the last time I checked... those great titles are all made of Nintendo itself [Mario, metroid, StarFox, DK, Zelda] It's very hard to find a third party title... yeah yeah RE4 I will get to that.

What I want to say is that Nintendo is surviving with it's own game and great game companies are all moving toward Sony and Microsoft. This is certainly not a good sign. The DS from it's release til now, there isn't any title that common ppl can find, except for the metroid demo and dk [titles from Nintedo itself].

Take a look at PSP there're alredy several titles to choose from and only Wipe out [is from Sony].

And about the RE4 I mentioned earlier, the game carries the "only for GameCube" stamp and guess what I found RE4 PS2 2006 so far for the "Only for...."
So what's point of all this... does any nintendo fan feel happy about that... I guess not, and does Nintendo care about it's Fan? sure it does, but can it do something about it? no! because Nintendo is not like it used to be... [sadly, but true] Capcom just have to pay Nintendo and things are resolved.

I'm quiet sure Nintendo Revolution will be very original, may be its a totally new concept of gaming itself. But stiil it has to fight... through XboX360 and PS3 to get to the top.

A pesonal note: I think Sony made it this far because of its "easy-copy-pirated" games, same for Xbox, everyone know that u can get a copy of FFX just for a few dollars, and don't mention asiatic countries.... And if paying is too much for u? just get a HD and download all the img u like from P2P programs. Is GameCube that simple? guess not.

So not being honest and dont play fair will eventaully get u to the top. But when u are at the top everything goes back to "fair play". Check out PSP and it's unique Media Format.... even somebody crack that thing buying the same media it's totally new story. That's what happen when u are on the top and u start to worry about your game media security issues, "cuz I'm #1, everyone has my console, it's time for me to squeez the juice from the software."

But what happen if u are not #1 and u want to put an "almost" uncrackble media format? u will loose market share little by little and the only one who buy your console will be your fan from the past glory... but trust me on this, It wont last long.

So what am I proposing? that Nintendo use plain DVD-R 4.5Gb for it's new "Revolution"? nop... why? because Nintendo is standing on a unique possition. That is they make their own titles.... pinch.gif
S7R1K3R
To the above post u hit it right on. ive been thinking for a long time that sony only had a good console is because of ease of pirated games. And i believe sony knew about it an this is why the ps2 was easily hacked. They make a console easy to hack an pirate so they can sell more consoles and do it secretly not to **** of game developers. but in the end its catch 22 cuz u get more people buying the console although only for the wrong reasons but since more people have it, more developers develop for it. And trust me Sony will do the same thing with ps3. Microsoft is actively trying to combat this by disabling any xbox that logs on to xbox live with a modded system. Sony does nothing an doesnt care. When I went to pacific mall recently ( a chinese mall that has alot of cool stuff including a bunch of pirate game stores) They dont have xbox games anymore because microsoft is going around sueing anybody who sells pirates. but the company with the big S will never do anything like that and merely do staged arrests an stuff to make the developers happy.
x-byte
Nintendo has always been about the games and not about the extras. Having a good piracyprotection gives Nintendo more money from the users. They actually buy all their games. Also Nintendo is the only one who actually earn good profit from their consoles and games. That's why they got billions saved up.

I personally think Nintendo really got something when they say performance is starting to have no really meaning anymore. It's time to think about other things than graphics because soon there will be no improvement in it. And then graphics will be "meaningless" and just be a standard in games.
Matrix XII
QUOTE(Axel @ Apr 26 2005, 05:17)
Nintendo has lost it.  They should go back to their roots and start making playing cards again.
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Axel
QUOTE(.will @ Apr 26 2005, 21:13)
Go troll another forum.
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It's my opinion. Don't like it? Ignore it. The last decent console they made (for the time) was the N64, I happened to like that. The GameCube may have been okay, but it was not up to the same standards as the PS2 and the XBOX.
x-byte
QUOTE(Axel @ Apr 27 2005, 10:38)
It's my opinion.  Don't like it? Ignore it.  The last decent console they made (for the time) was the N64, I happened to like that.  The GameCube may have been okay, but it was not up to the same standards as the PS2 and the XBOX.
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What standards are you talking about?
Axel
QUOTE([X]-bYtE @ Apr 27 2005, 08:50)
What standards are you talking about?
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Let's just say, I'm not a Zelda fan.
x-byte
QUOTE(Axel @ Apr 27 2005, 10:56)
Let's just say, I'm not a Zelda fan.
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Wow, that's one lousy answer....

Do you really belive Nintendo is just about Zelda? If you start looking outside your box then you'll see that GC have about the same games that the PS2 and X-box have except of the exclusive titles.

What you actually get on the GC is unique titles that no other system have and more uniqe games than X-box and PS2.

People should starte realize that Nintendo is not all about Zelda and Mario. Although those are titles that you shouldn't miss because they are the best of the best.
Mike Douglas
QUOTE(Axel @ Apr 27 2005, 01:38)
It's my opinion.  Don't like it? Ignore it.  The last decent console they made (for the time) was the N64, I happened to like that.  The GameCube may have been okay, but it was not up to the same standards as the PS2 and the XBOX.
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Exactly, they'll never attract the "mature" (read: pubescent 13 year old) crowd if none of the games will even let you kill a hooker.

And what is with Zelda, he doesn't even have a gun?
Axel
QUOTE([X]-bYtE @ Apr 27 2005, 09:05)
Wow, that's one lousy answer....

Do you really belive Nintendo is just about Zelda? If you start looking outside your box then you'll see that GC have about the same games that the PS2 and X-box have except of the exclusive titles.

What you actually get on the GC is unique titles that no other system have and more uniqe games than X-box and PS2.

People should starte realize that Nintendo is not all about Zelda and Mario. Although those are titles that you shouldn't miss because they are the best of the best.
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I was using that as an example. What I'm gettin at is that I've never been much of a fan of games on the Nintendo systems. Goldeneye was by far the best play for me.
x-byte
QUOTE(code_monkey @ Apr 27 2005, 11:14)
Exactly, they'll never attract the "mature" (read: pubescent 13 year old) crowd if none of the games will even let you kill a hooker.

And what is with Zelda, he doesn't even have a gun?
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Don't be an ass... Try RE4 and kill your hookers rolleyes.gif

If you try watching any images of Zelda, you'll know that your character is Link and why he doesn't have guns... I really don't know... Mabye because they don't have guns? Yes that must be it dry.gif
okidoki
QUOTE(Hipster @ Apr 27 2005, 01:36)
Nintendo is original but uninnovative.  I really don't think there is room for them in the next gen console market.  They should just develop games.
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Yeah, the big N never innovated.
No sireeeee!

They didn't bring you the analogue controller or the rumble-pack we take for granted in this day and age.

The XBox has a game that would probably have done pretty well on the cube, namely I Ninja. Most of the other games feel like more of a rehash (with notable exceptions like KOTOR 1/2, Jade Empire etc.).

Thing is, Nintendo aren't bull****ting when they're calling N5 the "Revolution".
Watch as MS and Sony will try to copy whatever marvelous features the Revolution has.
okidoki
QUOTE([X]-bYtE @ Apr 27 2005, 10:32)
Don't be an ass... Try RE4 and kill your hookers  rolleyes.gif

If you try watching any images of Zelda, you'll know that your character is Link and why he doesn't have guns... I really don't know... Mabye because they don't have guns? Yes that must be it  dry.gif
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Your sarcasm detector seems to be broken.
Please head straight to maintenance.
Do not pass go, do not collect $400.
CrimsonBlur
QUOTE(Axel @ Apr 27 2005, 00:38)
It's my opinion.  Don't like it? Ignore it.  The last decent console they made (for the time) was the N64, I happened to like that.  The GameCube may have been okay, but it was not up to the same standards as the PS2 and the XBOX.
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The XBOX and Gamecube both have considerably more advanced hardware than the PS2. The PS2 came out a full year ahead of them, and it's painfully obvious by now. Saying that the Gamecube isn't up to the standards set by the PS2 is a joke. Now that being said, I do have to admit that I haven't even touched my Gamecube in over 3 months. I've been playing Halo 2 and now Jade Empire almost exclusively and nothing has come out on the Gamecube that has really interested me recently. I haven't bought a game for my Gamecube since Wind Waker!

To tell you the truth, I think XBOX 360 is going to rule the US and European markets. All of the people that I know that own a PS2 have been very disappointed in the games they have been getting when compaired to the games I can get on XBOX, and Microsoft is getting some MAJOR talent behind XBOX 360. I doubt Cell will give Sony much of an edge, the other two consoles are using similar IBM technology in their consoles (XBOX 360 will have multiple PowerPC processors, and I'm betting Revolution will also, if not a multi-core processor), so they'll all be similarly powerful from a brute-force standpoint. The question for the next-gen is the underlying graphics technology and the games. Both Nintendo and Microsoft are going with ATI for their graphics technologies, but I'm willing to bet MS will have some more powerful graphics than Nintendo's system. Nintend and Sony alike always skimp on the more advanced features and on graphics memory. Sony is a big ? as far as graphics technology, but I have to say that the Graphics Synthesizer (fancy name for the GPU) in the PS2 was just not up to snuff even for that generation of hardware. The Dreamcast actually had a better GPU than the PS2, but that system never made it to maturity. Sony will have to step it up and pull something amazing out of their hat to compete with whatever ATI is developing for MS. Also, Live is the best online gaming system that has ever existed and Sony and Nintend will never be able to offer what MS can in that arena. MS also has a huge gun called Zenon, which is their development platform that spans from Windows to XBOX to mobile phones and beyond and looks to be very powerful and flexible. The technology demos for the Zenon development platform are VERY impressive, and they were supposedly running on hardware similar to but not as powerful as XBOX 360 (probably the early testing/development machines which were Dual 2Ghz PowerMac G5's).

That said, I still think the XBOX 360 will bomb in the Asian market trying to take on both Sony and Nintendo who have deep ties in that region. Their gaming habits differ greatly from American/European gaming habits, and Sony and Nintendo know that market much, much better than MS does or ever will. I think it will take a miracle of advertising/PR magic and an unprecidented games lineup for MS to make a dent in markets beyond the US and Europe.
Axel
Thanks for the very detailed rundown. I was merely pointing out the success story or the PS2 and XBOX in relation to the GameCube. Personally I think it's down to the games released on the console as opposed to the consoles hardware itself.

I think at this point I should add that I don't own any of the consoles. I'm more of a PC Gamer... and I haven't played a PC Game in a LONG TIME.
Oneill
I used to love Nintendo to bits, always guaranteed an awesome enjoyable gaming experience without fail. IMO Nintendo is all about the gimmicks thesedays, they rely on all the 2 minute wonders like touch screens and nonstandard joypad and to be honest its wearing a little thin. Theres a reason why 3rd party dont touch them with a bargepole. While i agree that being "all about the games" is an awesome standpoint but they are being left behind in the increasing "digital media" age, while the other consoles have dvd players, the ability to play music and online gaming, Nintendo insist on keeping their consoles extremely basic.

Dont get me wrong im by far a troll on Nintendo, ive had every Nintendo console right up to Gamecube but i refuse to buy NDS, ill reserve judgement on Revolution but i can see its going to be another gimmicky toy....
insurektion
I got my Xbox asap and enjoyed it but in retrospect wasn't worth the cash I dropped on it. In the end I had problems with my console and ended up getting about $300 worth of freebies. I recently sold it as It just wasnt doing anyting for me anymore.

I don't understand you people who say "I am going to buy this no matter what just to support them". You should be buying a product based on how much entertainment it will be able to give you not because nintendo was great. Dont get me wrong NES and superNES and N64 were all great consoles. But recently nintendo just hasn't been able to realisticly compete.

Right now Ill look at PS2 and XBOX 360 and if either of them show me something i think is worth the 300-400 bux I will buy them same with revolution whenever that comes out. I wont just say I liked version one of something im going to blindly buy version 2.
x-byte
I don't see how the touchscreen is a 2 minute wonder... I find it to be a very good controller. FPS games especially works very well on it. Developers have barely scratched the surface when it comes to using the touchscreen and the mic. And saying it's a gimmic I really don't understand the point there...
Laughing-Man
QUOTE(threedaysdwn @ Apr 27 2005, 00:34)
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You people make no sense. Why should they bow out of the console market?

The ironic thing is that Xbox has posted losses for all but one quarter, the Sony PS2 makes money, but that profit is cancelled because it is too small and Sony's other divisions have massive losses, yet the GameCube is the only one that makes a profit -- and Nintendo is the one dying and should quit making consoles?!

Man this is ridiculous, alot of you need to check reality and get your heads out of the clouds.
Danrarbc
QUOTE(Oneill @ Apr 27 2005, 10:08)
Dont get me wrong im by far a troll on Nintendo, ive had every Nintendo console right up to Gamecube but i refuse to buy NDS, ill reserve judgement on Revolution but i can see its going to be another gimmicky toy....
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So you'll reserve judgement, but you're already judging that it'll be a gimmick, and that DS can never prove itself huh.gif
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