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mrelusive978
Umm...hopefully I am wrong about this, but am I the only one on the forum with a resolution high enough (2048x1536) to watch 1080p video without scaling it down to fit the screen? I hope not, because JESUS IT IS BEAUTIFUL. H.264 IS GOING TO REVOLUTIONIZE THE WORLD, or at the very least MY moviewatching...although I have personally been ripping DVD to it for about three months now, ever since D-Vision 3 started supporting it...Full 780p DVD, no compression, 192K VBR MP3 audio, all for the low low price of 989Mb-1.12Gb per file w00t.gif

WARNING: IMAGE IS HUGE. And I mean HUGE. (Pixel-wise. Sizewise, its not too bad.)

user posted image

(Also, sorry for the ImageShack link, I didn't want to compress it because that would ruin the purpose of showing it...and the filesize limits on Neowin apparently aren't big enough for me to post my DT without compression...oh well)

BTW WHEN THE IMAGESHACK PAGE LOADS, PLEASE CLICK THE IMAGE TO SEE IT IN THE NATIVE RES.
benjmon
Looks incredible.

Having fun in Apples HD "Gallery"?

I wish i had a Apple Computer.....
QuarterSwede
You think that's good. Try watching that on a 61" HDTV. It will completely change your computing. I don't care high high res your computer monitor is, watching it on a massive screen with no quality loss is a site to behold.

But yeah, I know what you mean ... H.264 is rediculous.
Steve
You do realize you can see you're transfering a Tiger Disc image of 2.5Gb to a buddy on iChat, right? rolleyes.gif no.gif
NeoXY
*drools* *drowns in his on drools*

that...looks....soo....nice...
PureEdit
QUOTE(Jstphish @ May 2 2005, 17:31)
You think that's good.  Try watching that on a 61" HDTV.  It will completely change your computing.  I don't care high high res your computer monitor is, watching it on a massive screen with no quality loss is a site to behold.

But yeah, I know what you mean ... H.264 is rediculous.
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His 30'' cinema display is a lot better quality then an HDTV....

And its 1080i, not p.
NeoXY
QUOTE(Steve @ May 3 2005, 01:35)
You do realize you can see you're transfering a Tiger Disc image of 2.5Gb to a buddy on iChat, right?  rolleyes.gif  no.gif
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LMAO!.... laugh.gif laugh.gif ...
digistil
QUOTE(Steve @ May 2 2005, 19:35)
You do realize you can see you're transfering a Tiger Disc image of 2.5Gb to a buddy on iChat, right?  rolleyes.gif  no.gif
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Not the sharpest tool in the shed.
Avian
I love how every mac user thinks HD is brand new, there has been a windows media HD site since WM9 came out...
mrelusive978
QUOTE(benjmon @ May 2 2005, 19:30)
Looks incredible.

Having fun in Apples HD "Gallery"?

I wish i had a Apple Computer.....
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I wish you did too...


PureEdit
QUOTE(Avian @ May 2 2005, 17:41)
I love how every mac user thinks HD is brand new, there has been a windows media HD site since WM9 came out...
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And there has been mpeg2 HD since before that, but the file sizes of h264 are actually something that can be downloaded quickly with a normal broadband connection.
Arekkusu
I dunno what people are drooling over - it's a pretty crappy screenshot even when you click on the image.
cq_
QUOTE(PureEdit @ May 2 2005, 17:36)
And its 1080i, not p.
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1080i is regular HighDef you get on TV... H.264 is 1080p.

Actually I haven't been to impressed with h.264... my mac can't play the nice high res stuff, so I'll wait to reserve which is better (wmv or quicktime) later...
All i can say now is that I've been blown away with WMV HD since I first saw it at full fps last year... comon apple release QT7 for windows !
QuarterSwede
QUOTE(PureEdit @ May 2 2005, 20:36)
His 30'' cinema display is a lot better quality then an HDTV....

And its 1080i, not p.
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I agree that the 30" cinema display is amazing ... it's just much more impressive seeing 720p in 61" of HDTV glory. Trust me, 30" is great but you don't actually use your peripheral vision like you do when you are sitting in front of a 61" screen about 3 feet from it. It's well, you get the idea.
mrelusive978
QUOTE(dark kyuubi @ May 2 2005, 19:37)
LMAO!.... laugh.gif  laugh.gif ...
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LOL not anymore. He apparently already had the current build...
Detroit
Why is the ss so grainy???
Jdawg683
file doesnt work anymore sad.gif
fuzzy_logic
For some reason, the link isn't working for me.
eminem213486
well the screenshot isnt loading for me... sad.gif
Doli
would it be better to watch your 1080p with the 1920 x 1080 resolution? then your 2048x1536. is that at 60 hz or 30 hz (like 1080i) ?

im wishing i had a mac now, but im cool with my 1.2 Ghz PC and HDTV wonder, no problems with HDTV or HD playback, WMV HD (1080p also)...another story pinch.gif quicktime 7 HD, not even going to try until i have a new PC laugh.gif
mrelusive978
QUOTE(cq107 @ May 2 2005, 19:51)
1080i is regular HighDef you get on TV... H.264 is 1080p.

Actually I haven't been to impressed with h.264... my mac can't play the nice high res stuff, so I'll wait to reserve which is better (wmv or quicktime) later...
All i can say now is that I've been blown away with WMV HD since I first saw it at full fps  last year... comon apple release QT7 for windows !
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QUOTE(Jstphish @ May 2 2005, 19:56)
I agree that the 30" cinema display is amazing ... it's just much more impressive seeing 720p in 61" of HDTV glory.  Trust me, 30" is great but you don't actually use your peripheral vision like you do when you are sitting in front of a 61" screen about 3 feet from it.  It's well, you get the idea.
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Actually, if you look in my sig, I DO NOT have the 30" Cinema display...its a 21" CRT. SGI Workstation monitor.
jeffjs
QUOTE(cq107 @ May 2 2005, 21:51)
1080i is regular HighDef you get on TV... H.264 is 1080p.

Actually I haven't been to impressed with h.264... my mac can't play the nice high res stuff, so I'll wait to reserve which is better (wmv or quicktime) later...
All i can say now is that I've been blown away with WMV HD since I first saw it at full fps  last year... comon apple release QT7 for windows !
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H.264 is a compression format, not a resolution! H.264 is a flavor of MPEG4 compression that COULD be used to compress 1080p.

Normal Hi-res TV content - today - is 1080i (interlaced) in MPEG2 format. The only 1080p content (in MPEG2 or H.264 compression format) is just upconverted 1080i content.

There is not one broadcaster today putting out content in true 1080p format; also, there are only a couple TV's that claim they can handle 1080p.

Jeff
Long
QUOTE(PureEdit @ May 3 2005, 11:43)
And there has been mpeg2 HD since before that, but the file sizes of h264 are actually something that can be downloaded quickly with a normal broadband connection.
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Actually its about the same with WMV9 (WMV-HD)
QuarterSwede
QUOTE(mrelusive978 @ May 2 2005, 20:59)
Actually, if you look in my sig, I DO NOT have the 30" Cinema display...its a 21" CRT. SGI Workstation monitor.
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I never said you had the 30" monitor. I said "the 30" Cinema Display is amazing" specifically because I wasn't sure if you had one or not. Also, I don't view sigs so I couldn't have known that you have a saweeeet SGI monitor (now that is impressive).
cq_
all of apple's h.264 are Progressive - not interlaced...
I believe when people see 1080 that automatically assume 1080i because they have never seen the 1080p nomenclature before.

I am well aware of the difference between a codec and the levels/profiles it has..
mdgadley
screenshot is down
mrelusive978
The shot is grainy because I reduced it ot 8-bit PNG so that I wasnt forcing anyone that clicked on it to download a 1.4MB file.

And the SS should work fine now.
mrelusive978
QUOTE(dolimite35 @ May 2 2005, 19:59)
would it be better to watch your 1080p with the 1920 x 1080 resolution? then your 2048x1536. is that at 60 hz or 30 hz (like 1080i) ?



I prefer it at the higher resolution, it doesnt appear to lose any sharpness when I fullscreen it, and I need that resolution to work effectively, since I went from three CRT's @ 1600x1200 to this single one, and I am used to running about 8-10 apps at once. Plus, working on four-million poly models in Maya is a LOT easier when you can see/pick every last vertex, poly, or edge.

It's at 60 Hz. Before people ask whether the refresh rate slices my eyes, no, I have always used 60Hz and find it quite comfortable to look at.
kawai
no way i can look at a CRT @ 60hz
Detroit
Well, if you had an lcd, that would be understandable.. But you, you must have superman eyes!
KeR
here is one I took of HD @ 720p, and the smaller clip is a stream from the Tiger Seminar, h.264 is awesome.
http://home.mchsi.com/~khadzic/Picture_1.png
Detroit
now that's a screenshot ohmy.gif
Pink Floyd
yup nice one!
mrelusive978
QUOTE(Jstphish @ May 2 2005, 20:05)
I never said you had the 30" monitor.  I said "the 30" Cinema Display is amazing" specifically because I wasn't sure if you had one or not.
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Sorry about that, methinks I quoted the wrong post.

QUOTE(Jstphish @ May 2 2005, 20:05)
Also, I don't view sigs so I couldn't have known that you have a saweeeet SGI monitor (now that is impressive).
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Best 20 bucks I ever spent. w00t.gif
aristotle-dude
QUOTE(Long @ May 2 2005, 19:01)
Actually its about the same with WMV9 (WMV-HD)
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So what you are saying it they are basically the same? So why did you feel the need to post here then?

There are a few differences. WMV9 is "windows only" and has higher hardware requirements and it scaled very well down to "cell phone" bandwidth.

Why are you so damn impressed with WMV9 and not h.264?

Let me guess, WMV9 can be presented in new and exciting ways unlike any other codec on the face of this earth right?
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HawkMan
Maybe because WMV9 doesn't require the slowest most annoying (well second behind the older RealPlayers) media player around.

well the windows versions sucks pretty bad anyway, the Mac versions I don' know or care about smile.gif
Jonathan Amend
QUOTE(aristotle-dude @ May 3 2005, 01:40)
So what you are saying it they are basically the same? So why did you feel the need to post here then?

There are a few differences. WMV9 is "windows only" and has higher hardware requirements and it scaled very well down to "cell phone" bandwidth.

Why are you so damn impressed with WMV9 and not h.264?

Let me guess, WMV9 can be presented in new and exciting ways unlike any other codec on the face of this earth right?
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I think he was just pointing out that what the OP was going on about was nothing new or impressive.
KeR
QUOTE(HawkMan @ May 3 2005, 00:02)
Maybe because WMV9 doesn't require the slowest most annoying (well second behind the older RealPlayers) media player around.

well the windows versions sucks pretty bad anyway, the Mac versions I don' know or care about smile.gif
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You know if I was you; I would wait and comment on this topic after actually using QT7.
HawkMan
I doubt QT7 for windows will change that much from QT 1-6 for windows in that regard.
y0sh
QUOTE(mrelusive978 @ May 2 2005, 20:41)
I wish you did too...
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Wanna buy me one?

I could easily make some money and buy one, but sadly, my vw beetle gets all my $$. It wins by 1. lol
shodan
QUOTE(KeR @ May 3 2005, 04:29)
here is one I took of HD @ 720p, and the smaller clip is a stream from the Tiger Seminar, h.264 is awesome.
http://home.mchsi.com/~khadzic/Picture_1.png
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Can you please tell me how did you access to the tiger seminar?!? I've preordered my copy of Tiger on the very first day, but I can't find a link to watch the seminar...
Preorder it on the apple store italy don't count?!? sad.gif
Elite_graphix
for some reason the h264 batman trailer runs very very stuttery on my macmini.. the cpu shoots to 100% - it seems this h.264 codec requires a very powerful mac to run on sad.gif

quality wize its fantastic. but performance wise it sucks..
shodan
QUOTE(Elite_graphix @ May 3 2005, 13:38)
for some reason the h264 batman trailer runs very very stuttery on my macmini.. the cpu shoots to 100% - it seems this h.264 codec requires a very powerful mac to run on sad.gif

quality wize its fantastic. but performance wise it sucks..
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Well apple says that H264 requires at least a G5 1.8.... I hope next revision of Quicktime optimize it but i doubt it... sad.gif
Elliott
H.264 at HD requires a pretty good amount of power to decode flawlessly. This happens to any codec with high quality and high compression.
tronmaster
I viewed the Batman Returns Quicktime 7 through my MacMini and was suprised that I had virtually no slow down. Of course I was viewing the 720p version which my lcd monitor was only big enough for.

I think it looks great but I wouldn't by Quicktime Pro for my Mac Mini...
rhaleuk
So would a new PowerBook with 512MB or memory be able to run the trailers OK at 1080 or would it require the 1gig of memory?
Elliott
QUOTE(rhaleuk @ May 5 2005, 04:43)
So would a new PowerBook with 512MB or memory be able to run the trailers OK at 1080 or would it require the 1gig of memory?
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No, a PowerBook is going to falter quite a bit at 1080p, no matter the amount memory. I haven't tested the higher-end PowerBooks (in the 1.67GHz range) but I'm pretty sure they're in the same boat. Best you're going to get from a PowerBook is 720p.
Jonathan Amend
A PowerBook wouldn't be able to display 1080p at its full resolution anyways.
Galley
1080p is the holy grail of HDTV. Very few sets on the market support it, and there is currently no content available.
Huy
Wow! I went to uni today and downloaded all of the HD quicktime files (50-100MB each), Fantastic 4, Batman, BBC, NASA etc. I have a 12" PowerBook (1.5GHz) with 768MB RAM and boy, it is pretty choppy sometimes. The resolution on those files are AWESOME (i can't even see my QT controls properly when I haven't resized it).

Awesome quality!
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