Some of you might know about this one, some might not. I read about it a long time ago, and been doing it for months now. I dont remember exactly where I read it from, but if someone knows the original link do share. This speeds up web browsing by alot, atleast for me it has. Try it but make sure you keep a backup note on the original paths and such being replaced. If it doesnt work, you can just go back to normal. If it does not work I am letting you all know right now, YOU WILL NOT BE ABLE TO GO BACK ONLINE. You have been warned, so try it with caution and have backups.

First, What youll need:

Get your hands on a good RAM Disk. I am using SuperSpeed Software's RAMDisk Plus 7.0. I got it off a friend who bought it a lil while back. There are free ones available out there though. There is the Microsoft one, which I dont recommend. And my best bet for anyone who doesnt wanna buy a RAMDisk program is ARsoft's RAMDisk, which can be found hereRAMDisk. They have stopped the program, but you can still download it.


Configuration:

I left everything default on the RAMDisk. If you are using the ARSoft one do the same, except change the size to 65MB and select emulate local hard disk. Make sure to leave the drive letter as Z.


The harder parts:

Once all that is configured, we go into the more complicated part. Get that RegEdit running (Start>Run>Regedit.exe) and surf your way over to the following...

-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services-

From that location, youll want to find each of the following...

Afd

Netbt

Tcpip

Ipnat

In each of those change the image path to your Ramdisk, (Z:\).
Z:\<service name>
It would go as follows
Z:\afd.sys
Z:\netbt.sys
Z:\tcpip
Z:\ipnat

Once your done with that, make sure to also set your History and Cookies folder in there as well. To do that just search the Registry for anything called "Cookies", without the quotes. Change the directory of that to Z:\Cookies. In that same area search for history and change the directory to Z:\History. Search for all instances of these two files. I believe there are three in XP.

Now open Notepad and put the following script in there...

<Begin>
@echo on

Echo Starting TCP/IP Services

copy c:\windows\System32\DRIVERS\afd.sys z:\
copy c:\windows\System32\DRIVERS\netbt.sys z:\
copy c:\windows\System32\DRIVERS\tcpip.sys z:\
copy c:\windows\System32\DRIVERS\ipnat.sys z:\

net start afd
net start netbt
net start tcpip
net start ipnat
<End>

Make sure to leave out the <Begin/End> parts, as I just put those there to make it easier for some. Save that Notepad file as login.cmd and save it on your main HD, which for most of us is C:\. Then, grab the file and drag and drop it into the Startup folder in your Start>Programs menu. This way, everytime you startup your PC, XP will place those 4 files into the RAMDisk drive so that they can be used. IF THIS DOES NOT HAPPEN, REMEMBER TO KEEP A BACKUP OF THE ORIGINAL DIRECTORIES SO YOU CAN UNDO THE BEFOREHAND PROCESS.

Before you restart open a IE6/7, and select Tools>Internet Options>Settings. Adjust it to the desired size (50MB works fine) and select "Move folder" and point it at your RAMDisk. Hit ok, apply, and proceed to reboot your computer.

This helped speed up my internet browsing, and it also deletes your temporary files and such from being on the HD. Now below will be the ORIGINAL paths, in case you need to go into regedit and undo any of the things you made. Once you do that, just delete login.cmd from the startup folder and from the C:\ drive. You can then uninstall the RAMDisk, and voila, back to normal. Reboot for the changes to take effect.


c:\windows\System32\DRIVERS\afd.sys
c:\windows\System32\DRIVERS\netbt.sys
c:\windows\System32\DRIVERS\tcpip.sys
c:\windows\System32\DRIVERS\ipnat.sys

Hope it works for you, like it has for me. I in no way made this up myself, so I am not to take credit for it working or not. I just felt Id share a trick Ive been doing for some time now. Enjoy!!!

So...the genius behind this tweak is to tell the computer to write internet files onto a disk as opposed to what it normally does, which is to write files onto a...disk...

So at best, you'll get the same speed, because the computer is writing these files onto the harddrive, in a different directory. At worst, you'll lose speed because the computer is trying to write files onto your "RAMDisk".

Well, a RAM Drive isnt a disk, per say. Its put into memory for access rather than onto the hard disk itself. It wont be an ENORMOUS increase, but its noticeable.

the time it wud take me to do all that would probably take longer than the time saved from pages laoding!

Huh?
RAMDisk is a virtual "hard-drive" persay that is in your RAM. So no, its not writing it to a "disk". I dunno how much this would speed it up, but in theory, it sounds like a good idea. I always wanted to put my pagefile on a RAMdisk, so i could get a nice little paradox goin on there.

Now what you SHOULD do, is go out and get a RAMDrive.
http://www.cenatek.com/product_rocketdrive.cfm
Then install your OS onto that, THEN you could not only surf faster, but do everything faster.

Hmm, I wonder if you COULD put your pagefile on the RAM drive. I got 2GB of RAM and most of it is unused, id love to try that.

@ Daviesbad04:Well,go try that,I wanna do that too!

Well most modern browsers save cache to memory now anyways. Like Fire Fox and Opera.

So kinda pointless, unless you just have to use IE.

Then using hardware RAM drive is a great idea if you can afford it, sadly I can not.

Yes install OS on one RAM drive, browsers and other internet related appz on anther, and games on another one, page file on another one, and everything else on another one. And be sure and use 10,000 RPM hard disks in Raid. hehe That would rock!!

That would defeat the point of having a Page file - because a page file, by definition, 'pages' areas of memory to the Hard disk to "
free up RAM".

Kinda stupid to page areas of one part of RAM to ... another part of RAM.

Better off just turning off paging altogether if you *really* think you have enough RAM.


Also a good point- since they are trying to use RAM now (since most modern system have a decent amount of RAM) that is *in theory* a good idea - until, of course, you get to a point where that RAM is needed by another resource-intensive / RAM intensive program - and then that cache is save ... again ... to a hard drive.

RAMDRIVES don't improve performance in anyway. They have one purpose to create virtual HD space in RAM. Wasting RAM on a RAMDRIVE takes RAM away from the OS for use with things that really improve performance like caching ect... Just another Myth.

Not *always* a myth. When used in terms of something like compiling, it can be of a *tremendous benefit.

I have stats to prove it - in emerging an app in Gentoo I can time how long it takes to do so when using a normal compile method and when I mount a particular directory, /var/tmp/portage to a tmpfs (basically same concept as a RAM drive in Gentoo) - compile time is almost 1/3 of regular.

In a Windows environment I can agree with you - there is so much crap out there that it is *impossible* to have a system that will not page *something* at some time - and thus a RAM drive will be a waste of time unless you have something inordinately high, like 16 GB or more, and can create a small 500 MB RAM drive for use as a chance that does not get paged - but the key is to have sufficient RAM available to allow for this - and most people don't get sufficient RAM to begin with.

I completed building my machine 3.5 years ago next week, and it had 1.25 GB RAM - I took out the 256 MB and left the dual 512s for dual channel purposes, and it is 8still* running 1.0 GB - and I know people buying machines *now* that only have 1 GB.

so why is ie faster?

define faster. IE loads faster b/c half of its components are in active use by Windows Explorer (which is used to display most normal desktops in XP), so it is fast to load. but as far as rendering pages, I have seen the gap / margin between Fx and IE get very tiny, especially in terms of rendering, with the 1.5 Betas. And, after loading 1.5 Bx once, the next several times I load it it loads instantaneously, as fast as IE - and sometimes, depending upon system resource usage, faster than IE.

you would be better off just disabling your page file.

which wouldn't do anything in the end because xp would do as it wishes, which is the best for your system, anyway.

Just for you:

Access Time for Hardisk: 8 to 10 ms (or even more)
Access Time for Ramdisk: less 70 us (microseconds) , or 0.070 ms

Transfer rates for ram are also way better for ramdisk then harddrives.

Additional:
Bigger security: all cookies and temp files are deleted when the computer gets turned off.

faster: ie browses and loads faster.

Disabling the page file is a Myth

Internet Explorer is faster then Firefox in all aread except script speed. Browser Speed Comparison Test. FYI Opera is faster then both of them.

Windows uses RAM most efficiently without the overhead of a RAMDisk. Adjusting the size of your browsers cache would have more a positive effect.

Oh, really? I disagree!

(& this stuff will work for performance, and even a bit for security gains, for anyone & here is how):

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1.) Move webpage caches, history, & logging to it, for webbrowsers!

Each is easily doable in today's webbrowsers, either via their GUI interfaces, OR configuration files (or registry entries).

This avoids clutter & fragmentation on your main OS + programs bearing disk drive.

This also speeds up access to they, & largely, they are "READ" based, such as graphics (larger part) & static for HUGE periods & unchanging... best & fastest read they can get from a disk, is from an SSD!

Now, the text part? If done as I do it for security AND speed?? I use NTFS formatted disks: This speeds up their already many orders of magnitude faster pickup from disk vs. std. mechanical HDD's even more, by using compression (smaller filemass reads up faster)... & the decompress stage today is hugely offset by today fast CPU's & RAM (more than offset by gain in access/seek & loads noted above).

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2.) Same with EventLogs!

Via this registry entry (this is one example, but the FILE value alteration is the same on ANY logs near here too, like Application, System, Internet Explorer, Security, SQLServer &/or IIS ones, you name it):

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\Eventlog\System

Change the FILE value to the disk & folder + filename of your choice to gain speed & yes, potentially security too (by keeping dummies in the old locations, where the new ones build on a disk that does not take an access/speed hit & works faster too, like an SSD)

OTHER APPS CAN DO THIS TOO, WinZip being an example of an app that does logging... DrWatson/DrWtsn32 is yet another, & the lits goes on.

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3.) Pagefile.sys placement

I do this on the primary/first partition of my CENATEK RocketDrive Solid-State RamDisk: Far faster access than std. mechanical disks, especially considering paging bypasses the filesytem driver & goes direct in "RAW WRITES" to the diskdrive like its own disk/partition really & F A S T E R by far alone, but, this helps it more (speed of access mainly is why, & also helping to stop fragmentation by the pagefile.sys during its bootup./shutdown grow-shrink (if needed) patterns... grow happens, shrink I have never actually seen occur, unless a user makes it happen, OR, if done by pagefile.sys wipes (possible via reg hack for security purposes)).

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THIS IS NOT SOFTWARE BASED RAMDRIVES HERE... this is solid-state, TRUE ssd (not FLASH stuff)... very fast & VERY useful, in overcoming objections to ramdisk usage (to which some points on softwares ones DO apply, & I agree, unless a system has over 4gb of memory on it... then, you CAN actually pull some cool tricks with a 32-bit OS like the boot.ini memory /exclude ranges trick & use them for a HUGE ramdisk if you have the software for it (ArSoft's FREE one, comes to mind here... unlimited 4gb 32-bit Win32 PE limited only!)

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ADDITIONALLY/BACKGROUND:

This also works for speed in information systems (i.e.- database work):

Ideas of mine took EEC SYstems/SuperSpeed.com to a FINALIST position @ Microsoft Tech-Ed 2000-2002, in the hardest category there: SQLServer Performance Enhancement.

The article for the wares by this company got reviewed excellently by Windows IT Pro magazine technical editor Mr. John Enck, & my research was used above his for instance (he only covered a fraction of what I had is why) while I wrote programs for improving their SuperCache product.

I also authored what WAS the front page article @ CENATEK in a review of their RocketDrive (was good enough that I bought one, & employed it above, & THAT is only a partial list too, of how I really use it & why) which for years was featured above many others from famous websites or magazines even... they knew who I was, because I used to put out a software based RamDisk + GUI front end tuner... they thought I was "competition" & I was not really.

APK

P.S.=> My SSD, an older CENATEK "RocketDrive" has backup powersupply of its own, unlike software based ramdisks, & I keep a UPS is why I don't worry here about losing data like logs...

There are F A S T E R units out here like it, & not "FLASH BASED" with their limited WRITE lifecycles, but faster RAM than mine (PC-133 SDRAM) & faster busses too (PCI 2.2 = 132mb/sec)...

Gigabyte's IRAM is a good example, with DDR2 RAM, & SATA 150,b/sec busses...

PLUS, an even a faster one's out there in prototype called the DDRDrive X1 (DDR RAM & PCI-Express bus using, but not in fullblown production afaik & I wish it WOULD be)...apk

Talk about thread resurrection! Geez.

Necessary, per the points I posted above...

They're correct & do work for better performance (& security even) by using Solid-State Ramdisks/RamDrives!

Especially for the things noted on a Solid-State RamDrive unit (even paging), & for webpage caching, %temp/tmp% ops (which I did not list above), logging from the OS & its subsystems + apps logs (& even MIS/IS/IT related work)?

"UnToUcHaBLe"... &, proven so in fact by many sources as to how/why. Some of which were my own which corporate bodies employed to GOOD effect as noted above... others from other sources I have not listed.

Even Linus torvalds of LINUX fame is excited about them, per an article I read about the future direction of Linux in 2008 & computing on it... why?

Reduced latency!

Linus Torvalds gets excited by SSDs - Next biggest thing

http://www.theinquirer.net/gb/inquirer/new...ts-excited-ssds

I'd say ole' Linux Penguin #1 pretty much knows his stuff, despite the fact I like Windows better.

I've been saying it for years, for more than a decade in publication & online... & it works, per MS Tech Ed stuff I note above for one, & from research I've done & others have as well that is in publication or practical use (not just for IS/IT/MIS stuff, but for home users too)!

These things ARE the future of I/O, especially high-performance io. However, I hope they don't mean FLASH based ones... the limited write lifecycle is NOT as good as SDRAM/DDR/DDR2 RAM based TRUE SSD's have, by far.

APK

P.S.=> I missed posting about %temp/tmp% environmental variables placements there as well in my first post here on this toipic (another one is placing your %COMSPEC% command interpreters there, like cmd.exe for example)... it's/they're other/another one(s) that is/are outstanding & useful for performance' sake...

PLUS, lastely... these SS disks? They defrag UNBELIEVABLY FAST as well... which works out for webpage caches the best imo, as well as logging... even if the defragger's set to "aggressively consolidate freespace", especially in comparison to std. mechanical HDD's...

I also run my browsers & email apps (plus occasionally others, for "debugging purposes" & tracing) thru a great little idea for an app, especially online for security, & that is SANDBOXIE... & guess where I place its "sandbox"?

You guessed it: My Solid state Ramdisk... faster performance is why, all the way around... apk

Try OpenDNS.com

I use its servers already...



* Good stuff!

APK

You really think it's necessary to resurrect a more than two year old thread?

Well, when it contains information that is "off"? Sure, why not - misinformation (even if due to stale information) is still worth correcting for.

(Don't you agree?)

APK

Some of you may (or, may not) find this useful (for BOTH Solid-State RamDisk placement of your IE Cookies, History, temporary internet files, etc. for speed...)

It's called "Ramsurf" & it redirects much of IE as noted above, to a lower latency/faster seek-access ability software ramdisk, OR, solid-state diskdrive (which I have one, as noted in my last post above)...

Now, an added feature is that IF you use NTFS compressed disks as I do, as noted above, on my SSD (which you can also do on your software based one mind you as well (but remember: the NTFS MFT$ takes away 20% of the disk for itself too)? You can more than DOUBLE .html/.htm/.xml storage (& other text files content based files too, like logs, which I mention above, & MANY %temp/tmp% ops)

Doing this also gives you gains on your MAIN OS & Programs bearing drive(s), in that you do NOT fragment them with these smallish webpage cache (or temp ops) files, & do not burden said disk & the filesystem/disk drivers with I/O on said main disks either...

Plus/Again - You gain on seek/access hugely, & if NTFS compressed? FASTER LOAD TIMES RESULT as noted in my first post above.

IMPORTANT POINT:

Software Ramdisks generally do not hold "state" of the data on them after power outage/system shutdown, unless mirrored to backing HDD (such as SuperSpeed.com's RamDisk driver can do, unlike all other software based ramdrives)).

Doing this also has a security benefit on software ramdisks, mainly (but, can be applied to hardware based ones as well, by NOT using their backing power supplies which some have, & some use CMOS type battery arrangements)... &, in fact, I think THIS point was mentioned in this thread, & it has merit.

RAMSURF FOR IE HOW TO IN REGISTRY (I used drive letter B, as it is the one on my SSD/Solid-State CENATEK RocketDrive ramdisk - merely alter it to the driveletter of yours as/where needed):

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Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Internet Settings\Cache\Paths]
"Paths"=dword:00000004
"Directory"="B:\\TEMP\\Temporary Internet Files\\Content.IE5"

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Internet Settings\Cache\Paths\path1]
"CachePath"="B:\\TEMP\\Temporary Internet Files\\Content.IE5\\Cache1"

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Internet Settings\Cache\Paths\path2]
"CachePath"="B:\\TEMP\\Temporary Internet Files\\Content.IE5\\Cache2"

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Internet Settings\Cache\Paths\path3]
"CachePath"="B:\\TEMP\\Temporary Internet Files\\Content.IE5\\Cache3"

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Internet Settings\Cache\Paths\path4]
"CachePath"="B:\\TEMP\\Temporary Internet Files\\Content.IE5\\Cache4"

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Internet Settings\Cache\Special Paths\Cookies]
"Directory"="B:\\TEMP\\Cookies"
"CachePrefix"="CookiB:"

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Internet Settings\Cache\Special Paths\History]
"Directory"="B:\\TEMP\\History"

[HKEY_USERS\.DEFAULT\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\ProfileReconciliation\Cookies]
"CentralFile"="Cookies"
"LocalFile"="Cookies"
"Name"="*.*"
"DefaultDir"="B:\\TEMP\\Cookies"
"MustBeRelative"=dword:00000001
"Default"=dword:00000001
"RegKey"="Software\\Microsoft\\Windows\\CurrentVersion\\Explorer\\User Shell Folders"
"RegValue"="Cookies"

[HKEY_USERS\.DEFAULT\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\ProfileReconciliation\History]
"CentralFile"="History"
"LocalFile"="History"
"Name"="*.*"
"DefaultDir"="B:\\TEMP\\History"
"MustBeRelative"=dword:00000001
"Default"=dword:00000001
"RegKey"="Software\\Microsoft\\Windows\\CurrentVersion\\Explorer\\User Shell Folders"
"RegValue"="History"

[HKEY_USERS\.DEFAULT\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\Shell Folders]
"Cookies"="B:\\TEMP\\Cookies"
"Recent"="B:\\TEMP\\Recent"
"Cache"="B:\\TEMP\\Temporary Internet Files"
"History"="B:\\TEMP\\History"

[HKEY_USERS\.DEFAULT\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\User Shell Folders]
"Cookies"="B:\\TEMP\\Cookies"
"Recent"="B:\\TEMP\\Recent"
"Cache"="B:\\TEMP\\Temporary Internet Files"
"History"="B:\\TEMP\\History"

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Internet Settings\Url History]
"Directory"="B:\\TEMP\\History"

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* This technique can also apply to other webbrowsers too, because this can be done in Opera via its .ini files, & FireFox/Netscape/Mozilla too, via About:Config (same in Opera now too, iirc, on About:config page too).

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\Ramdisk\Parameters]
"BreakOnEntry"=dword:00000000
"DebugLevel"=dword:00000000
"DebugComp"=dword:ffffffff
"DiskSize"=dword:01f00000
"DriveLetter"="B:"
"RootDirEntries"=dword:00000200
"SectorsPerCluster"=dword:00000002

** This last entry above is for the old Ms-DDK ramdisk, iirc, which has a 32mb size limit, so if you don't use that one? Disregard this last entry...

APK

P.S.=> The "BEST" freeware SOFTWARE-BASED Ramdisk I know of, is ArSoft's... IF you can still find it online, that is...

E.G./I.E.-> ArSoft's has theoretically unlmited size potential (up to 2gb limit most likely, as most Win32 PE's cannot access more than that, though the OS to APP true amt. possible = 4gb typically (minus the /3gb boot.ini switch possible on 32-bit Windows NT-based OS since Win2k iirc), BUT, is a 2gb to app + 2gb to OS for mgt. purposes split, typically)... apk

On ArSoft's RamDisk:

Guys - I am not sure if it works on Windows XP SP #2, anymore @ least!

(I say that, simply because I just tried to install it today to my workstation @ work, which is on XP SP#2 fully hotfix patched et al, & it's "bugging out" on me...)

* I hope this doesn't happen to you guys, because this was imo @ least, the best RamDisk out there, that is/was a total freebie, & of "UNLIMITED" size vs. others out there for Windows.

APK

P.S.=> Sorry I can't find you guys a TOTALLY FREE ONE for XP, that still works (jury's still out on this though, it may just be MY workstation on the job is all, & something on it that does not "mesh" with ArSoft's RAMDISK setup is all... maybe a network shared disk? Not sure... but, try it yourselves if you wish to either 2nd me here, or show I have something in the way, on MY end, on my workstation on the job! Thanks... ) apk

I doubt there is a major difference to bother trying this. Just get opera, fastest web browser at the moment. If you want any faster, well thats just being greedy

Well, to quote an old adage amongst PC Geeks? "Software is NO SUBSTITUTE for better hardware", & largely, I am forced to agree... BUT, with reservations:

"Every little bit, helps"

& that is what this is about...

By increasing the "seek/access" time to your files for webbrowser caches (or anything), you reduce latency... heck, even LINUS TORVALDS is excited about it, see above... reduced latency is where it is at, even according to Penguin #1... & I have been saying this for years online (see above for details in my earlier replies to MasterTech, & others here, for details).



And, the one with the least unpatched KNOWN issues/vulnerabilities too, mind you (ties Netscape, but Opera's been shown to be faster on MANY levels, & on many OS platforms), & I agree...

HOWEVER:

There are things you CAN do, easily, like an adbanner blocking HOSTS file, that I guarantee will buy you more speed (just common sense really - you don't waste time calling out to adbanner servers, loading their datastreams, & animating them in your pages online for one... &. there's more, though I don't ship MINE that way, I block off sites I put in as favs (but, I list HOW to add your favs in mine's interior, with examples). In my custom HOSTS file, I intentionally left the adbanners & google/stopbadware.org sites intact (as well as how SpyBot uses this file to secure you also, & that is one HELL of a good program!)).

Secondly, the past few years now, these same adbanners have been "poisoned" & famous sites have been hit by it (see the "RBN/Russian Business Network" related news online lately in regard to that)

... inclusive of Microsoft themselves, mind you!

That's not just a speed tip either... it helps for security, especially nowadays. Additionally, not calling out to POSSIBLY "DNS POISONED" DNS servers acts in your favor for security, by adding your FAV SITES to its interior as well... no "www.yoursite.com -> IPAddress" resolution time wasted either... gain in potential security, and for certain, speed using them THIS way (not just blocking banners).

I posted more on that, here, with details & backing substantiation in publication online & otherwise:

HOW TO SECURE Windows 2000/XP/Server 2003 & VISTA in 12 steps:

http://www.neowin.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=602537

APK

P.S.=> Speed = good, & it's YOUR LINETIME in your ISP bill, & electric bill you pay for folks... get your money's worth, as much as you can... apk

And in what are you basing this arguments on? As far as I know, all the tests showed IE to load faster not only itself, but the pages too.

My man, if you look @ the date of his quote (2005)?

He's probably "long gone" (or banned, OR just not here to reply)...

Suggestion/Advice, IF you take advice?

Email he, or try to send him a mail thru the forums engine & maybe you'll luck out & he takes email from users & admins here too... & hope the mail he used is one he actually employs regularly!

Good luck!

APK

P.S.=> Above all though, as far as THIS post's concerned? I hope you guys enjoy & profit by the tips I noted in my posts on the last page... they just work! apk