March 18: Pakistan coach Bob Woolmer has been rushed to hospital after being found unconscious in his hotel room.
The 58-year-old former South Africa coach, who played for England between 1975-81, was discovered at his hotel in Jamaica at 1045 local time on Sunday.
Pakistan were eliminated from the World Cup on Saturday after losing by three wickets to minnows Ireland.
Woolmer said after the match he was considering his future in the game.
His contract was in any case unlikely to be renewed by the Pakistan Cricket Board after the tournament.
But Woolmer said on Friday night: "I'm going to sleep on this one as I've had a very bad day, which ranks along with my worst days as a coach.
"Coaching is what I like to do but whether I continue to do that at international level is under discussion.
"I'm going to give it some thought."
The PCB is expected to release a statement later on Sunday
Source.
http://www.daijiworld.com/news/news_disp.a...s+in+Hotel+Room
This is absolutely shocking
Bob Woolmer dies at 58.
This is truly shocking. R.I.P
This is truly shocking. R.I.P
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Bob Woolmer, the Pakistan coach, has died din a Kington hospital after being found unconscious in his hotel room hours after his side's elimination from the World Cup. He was 58.
Although Woolmer played 19 Tests for England, it was as an international coach he really made his mark, first with South Africa and then, after a spell as the ICC's High Performance Manager, with Pakistan.
Born in India, Woolmer made his mark in a strong Kent side in the 1970s as an allrounder, a pugnacious middle-order batsman and medium-paced seamer. Although his England career was just getting started when he joined World Series Cricket, there were already signs that his early promise was not going to be fulfilled.
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Although Woolmer played 19 Tests for England, it was as an international coach he really made his mark, first with South Africa and then, after a spell as the ICC's High Performance Manager, with Pakistan.
Born in India, Woolmer made his mark in a strong Kent side in the 1970s as an allrounder, a pugnacious middle-order batsman and medium-paced seamer. Although his England career was just getting started when he joined World Series Cricket, there were already signs that his early promise was not going to be fulfilled.
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Looks like he has died...
Although I do not follow cricket, this is quite sad
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Pakistan coach Bob Woolmer has died after being discovered in his Jamaica hotel room on Sunday morning.
The 58-year-old former South Africa coach, who played for England between 1975-81, was found unconscious at the Pegasus Hotel at 1045 local time.
He was taken to the emergency ward of the nearby University hospital but did not regain consciousness.
Pakistan were eliminated from the World Cup on Saturday after losing by three wickets to minnows Ireland.
Woolmer told BBC Radio Five Live after the Ireland match that he was considering his future in the game.
"My contract runs out on 30 June anyway but I want to sleep on it before I make a decision about my future," he said on Saturday evening.
"I have said I am reluctant to continue in international cricket purely because of all the travelling but I will stay in cricket at a different level.
"But I think the decision has been made for me really. I will talk to the PCB and if they want me to stay until 30 June I will stay, if they want me to go I will go.
"I am not going to break my contract but if the PCB want to get rid of me that is their business."
Pakistan's preparations for the World Cup have been far from ideal, which Woolmer also alluded to.
Following the infamous forfeited Test against England at The Oval last summer, two of their leading fast bowlers Shoaib Akhtar and Mohammad Asif, were suspended after failing doping tests.
The pair later saw those bans rescinded but missed the World Cup because of injury, something Woolmer admitted had hindered the team.
"There are a number of extenuating circumstances in the last six months that have made coaching Pakistan slightly different to normal sides," he said.
"Those are the things I would have to consider and those things would have to change if I was to continue."
The 58-year-old former South Africa coach, who played for England between 1975-81, was found unconscious at the Pegasus Hotel at 1045 local time.
He was taken to the emergency ward of the nearby University hospital but did not regain consciousness.
Pakistan were eliminated from the World Cup on Saturday after losing by three wickets to minnows Ireland.
Woolmer told BBC Radio Five Live after the Ireland match that he was considering his future in the game.
"My contract runs out on 30 June anyway but I want to sleep on it before I make a decision about my future," he said on Saturday evening.
"I have said I am reluctant to continue in international cricket purely because of all the travelling but I will stay in cricket at a different level.
"But I think the decision has been made for me really. I will talk to the PCB and if they want me to stay until 30 June I will stay, if they want me to go I will go.
"I am not going to break my contract but if the PCB want to get rid of me that is their business."
Pakistan's preparations for the World Cup have been far from ideal, which Woolmer also alluded to.
Following the infamous forfeited Test against England at The Oval last summer, two of their leading fast bowlers Shoaib Akhtar and Mohammad Asif, were suspended after failing doping tests.
The pair later saw those bans rescinded but missed the World Cup because of injury, something Woolmer admitted had hindered the team.
"There are a number of extenuating circumstances in the last six months that have made coaching Pakistan slightly different to normal sides," he said.
"Those are the things I would have to consider and those things would have to change if I was to continue."
Although I do not follow cricket, this is quite sad
Pakistan coach Bob Woolmer dies
"Woolmer took over as Pakistan coach in June 2005
Pakistan coach Bob Woolmer has died after being discovered in his Jamaica hotel room on Sunday morning.
The 58-year-old former South Africa coach, who played for England between 1975-81, was found unconscious at the Pegasus Hotel at 1045 local time.
He was taken to the emergency ward of the nearby University hospital but did not regain consciousness. "
Full Story: Bob Woolmer Dies - BBC
Truly a sad day for the world of cricket
RIP Bob
"Woolmer took over as Pakistan coach in June 2005
Pakistan coach Bob Woolmer has died after being discovered in his Jamaica hotel room on Sunday morning.
The 58-year-old former South Africa coach, who played for England between 1975-81, was found unconscious at the Pegasus Hotel at 1045 local time.
He was taken to the emergency ward of the nearby University hospital but did not regain consciousness. "
Full Story: Bob Woolmer Dies - BBC
Truly a sad day for the world of cricket
RIP Bob
R.I.P
ok iam feeling sick to my stomach right now........this just sucks....it really really does
Im seriously hope it wasnt murder.
This would be a serious shame.
This would be a serious shame.
I think he was quite stressed as Pakistan had lost a World Cup match to newcomers Ireland. This resulted in Pakistan being out of the WC in the first stage itself.
It's sad. He was just 58, and had coached South Africa and Pakistan.
It's sad. He was just 58, and had coached South Africa and Pakistan.
R.I.P
Very few in the world who are so genuinely sincere to their work.
Very few in the world who are so genuinely sincere to their work.
completely shocking.... just not fair. still cant believe it as i just got home and seeing it all over news.
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Im seriously hope it wasnt murder.
I would be surprised if he died of natural causes. Too much of a coincidence
Shame.
He had an undisclosed illness.
Maybe it finally caught up with him.
Bye Bob, enjoy your cricket where ever you go!
He had an undisclosed illness.
Maybe it finally caught up with him.
Bye Bob, enjoy your cricket where ever you go!
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He had an undisclosed illness.
Maybe it finally caught up with him.
Maybe it finally caught up with him.
? where did you read that? The only thing i heard on news is he had High Diabetes.
But yes, this really will cloud some doubts for sometime till nothing fishy comes up for long time.
I think it was just the loss of his team that caused his death. If you watched the match, you could tell that he looked very uneasy. Probably got too much stress and had a heart attack.
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Probably got too much stress and had a heart attack.
yup.... exactly wht i think too....cricket has taken a different level of seriousnes in asia and its sad. and if there is nothing else but stress that got to bob woolmer, then it will just prove how sad it has got that a defeat is taken soooo seriously here in asia... ppl shud realise its just a game in end
media hype it all too.kyro.
India.
I just heard on the news that they found blood stains on his pillow.
Do you cough up blood during a heart attack?
Do you cough up blood during a heart attack?
What was the cause of death?
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? where did you read that? The only thing i heard on news is he had High Diabetes.
But yes, this really will cloud some doubts for sometime till nothing fishy comes up for long time.
But yes, this really will cloud some doubts for sometime till nothing fishy comes up for long time.
It was mentioned in a news broadcast on the radio.
They mentioned today, that he may have taken an overdose of pills (prescription) and booze.
it's a shame that he died. the whole cricketing world will miss him.
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It was mentioned in a news broadcast on the radio.
They mentioned today, that he may have taken an overdose of pills (prescription) and booze.
They mentioned today, that he may have taken an overdose of pills (prescription) and booze.
yup.. heard same. and even suicide attempt is being discussed now.... which i hope is not the truth.
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yup.. heard same. and even suicide attempt is being discussed now.... which i hope is not the truth.
He was a young man, only 58, I have watched ESPN cricket, he was playing for England due to South Africa being banned, so he was a great player and a great coach.
I hope he didn't kill himself.
RIP Bob Woolmer
Also Inzi has retired from one day international cricket!
Also Inzi has retired from one day international cricket!
Im sorry for the poor guy.
But its only sport. Of course its more to hime than that i suppose so thats unfair of me to say too
Hasnt spoiled the party in Ireland. For the first time ever Cricket is getting the national media attention. We are proud of the players..
They work as Bakers Milkmen Butchers...well done. Looks like Pakistan players need to find part time jobs too now.
Anyways, I hope this man rests in Peace.
But its only sport. Of course its more to hime than that i suppose so thats unfair of me to say too
Hasnt spoiled the party in Ireland. For the first time ever Cricket is getting the national media attention. We are proud of the players..
They work as Bakers Milkmen Butchers...well done. Looks like Pakistan players need to find part time jobs too now.
Anyways, I hope this man rests in Peace.
Seems he may have been strangled.
I hope he was not murdered.
I hope he was not murdered.
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Seems he may have been strangled.
I hope he was not murdered.
I hope he was not murdered.
Yep, that would just be too crazy.
They are now saying that he could hav been murdered. Possibly by strangling cause in one report it said that he had marks on his neck.
The Paksitani team and all their staff won't be allowed to leave the Caribbean till this situation is solved.
now there are loads of rumours flying around about why he might have been murdered and by who.
apparently in news they say, "Last email by bob woolmer mentioned he was extremely disappointed by ireland defeat, but he was going back to pakistan as soon as possible and going to start writing a book. he also mentioned he had all information about match-fixing links around the team and going to write about it too"
now they say someone who got wiiff of this murdered him. but nothing is certain yet.
Things are getting twisted.... I feel the police have certainly ruled our suicide and going more towards murder angle.
now they say someone who got wiiff of this murdered him. but nothing is certain yet.
Things are getting twisted.... I feel the police have certainly ruled our suicide and going more towards murder angle.
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Seems he may have been strangled.
I hope he was not murdered.
I hope he was not murdered.
Generally if you have been strangled, murder has taken place.
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Generally if you have been strangled, murder has taken place.
My last comment was my feelings. 'I hope he was not murdered'.
I am sorry to hear that he passed away. I think it was a murder. Nobody will really find out for sure, though.
Not really basing this on anything, but I think it could have been Inzamam.
He said he was in his room while Woolmer was laying on the floor in bad condition. Inzamam was quoted as saying something like "i never seen bob in such a bad state", now.. I don't know about you guys, but if I see a guy laying on his back on the floor and clearly "in such a bad state" that has never been seen, i'd help the guy out! Not leave him there to rot.
I could be completely wrong but so far, to me anyway. It looks like Inzamam could be the main suspect.
He said he was in his room while Woolmer was laying on the floor in bad condition. Inzamam was quoted as saying something like "i never seen bob in such a bad state", now.. I don't know about you guys, but if I see a guy laying on his back on the floor and clearly "in such a bad state" that has never been seen, i'd help the guy out! Not leave him there to rot.
I could be completely wrong but so far, to me anyway. It looks like Inzamam could be the main suspect.
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Not really basing this on anything, but I think it could have been Inzamam.
He said he was in his room while Woolmer was laying on the floor in bad condition. Inzamam was quoted as saying something like "i never seen bob in such a bad state", now.. I don't know about you guys, but if I see a guy laying on his back on the floor and clearly "in such a bad state" that has never been seen, i'd help the guy out! Not leave him there to rot.
I could be completely wrong but so far, to me anyway. It looks like Inzamam could be the main suspect.
He said he was in his room while Woolmer was laying on the floor in bad condition. Inzamam was quoted as saying something like "i never seen bob in such a bad state", now.. I don't know about you guys, but if I see a guy laying on his back on the floor and clearly "in such a bad state" that has never been seen, i'd help the guy out! Not leave him there to rot.
I could be completely wrong but so far, to me anyway. It looks like Inzamam could be the main suspect.
well, i heard something different in news like the Media Manager found Bob FIRST, then informed others..
now the unusual thing is , the Hospital Bob Woolmer was taken is reportedly just 15 minutes away. Still it took 1 hour for him to be taken to that hospital.... no one knows why .
Rumour mill is running on top gears so let not pull out names till we know for certain...
another rumour is the Match-Betting mafia did it, as its alleged, that mafia made "HUGE MONEY" and gave "huge share" to pakistan team to loose, something around 1000 core Indian rupees ( which is huge).. and Bob came to know the day Pakistan lost ... someone didnt like it and killed him... thats the rumour..
now lets wait and see..... it will be good if truth comes out fast.
Can the police check in betting farms that how much betting was taken place and by whom?.. or are most of the betting done there is illegal?..
Apparently, it is now a murder investigation. Possible strangulation because of a broken throat bone.
Pakistan cricket coach strangled to death: Police
Mar 22, 2007 08:11 PM
Associated Press
KINGSTON, Jamaica — Pakistan’s cricket coach Bob Woolmer was strangled to death in his hotel room after the team’s shocking World Cup loss to Ireland, Jamaican police said Thursday.
Police Commissioner Lucius Thomas said in a statement that the pathologist report found that Bob Woolmer’s death was due to ``asphyxia as a result of manual strangulation.”
The statement, which was read by a police spokesman at the Jamaica Pegasus Hotel where Woolmer died on Sunday, said police were now treating the case as a murder investigation.
“There is an ongoing murder investigation into the death of Robert Woolmer and as a result the security arrangements at the Jamaica Pegasus Hotel are a part of those investigations,” Owen Ellington, assistant commissioner of police, said in a statement also read by a police spokesman.
Woolmer, 58, was found unconscious in his blood- and vomit-splattered hotel room in Jamaica on Sunday, a day after his team’s upset loss to Ireland on St. Patrick’s Day sealed Pakistan’s ouster from the tournament. He was later declared dead at a hospital.
Pakistan cricketers were fingerprinted and interviewed on Thursday by police investigating Woolmer’s death. They were allowed to leave the hotel in the afternoon and travel to Montego Bay.
http://www.thestar.com/Sports/article/195167
Mar 22, 2007 08:11 PM
Associated Press
KINGSTON, Jamaica — Pakistan’s cricket coach Bob Woolmer was strangled to death in his hotel room after the team’s shocking World Cup loss to Ireland, Jamaican police said Thursday.
Police Commissioner Lucius Thomas said in a statement that the pathologist report found that Bob Woolmer’s death was due to ``asphyxia as a result of manual strangulation.”
The statement, which was read by a police spokesman at the Jamaica Pegasus Hotel where Woolmer died on Sunday, said police were now treating the case as a murder investigation.
“There is an ongoing murder investigation into the death of Robert Woolmer and as a result the security arrangements at the Jamaica Pegasus Hotel are a part of those investigations,” Owen Ellington, assistant commissioner of police, said in a statement also read by a police spokesman.
Woolmer, 58, was found unconscious in his blood- and vomit-splattered hotel room in Jamaica on Sunday, a day after his team’s upset loss to Ireland on St. Patrick’s Day sealed Pakistan’s ouster from the tournament. He was later declared dead at a hospital.
Pakistan cricketers were fingerprinted and interviewed on Thursday by police investigating Woolmer’s death. They were allowed to leave the hotel in the afternoon and travel to Montego Bay.
http://www.thestar.com/Sports/article/195167
This is absolutely sad. It is just a sport ffs. Murdering someone over a loss is absolutely low...
I hope Woolmer gets justice.
I hope Woolmer gets justice.
Well they've already made arrests in Pakistan, connected to the murder.
So sad.
So sad.
Yeah. He was strangled to death and it is now confirmed. I hope they find the killer.
They are saying that the killer was someone that he knew. Not a stranger.
They are saying that the killer was someone that he knew. Not a stranger.
After skimming a few posts, I've come to suspect Silar.
who is silar?
i think GeoTV mentioning that 1 suspect in Jamaica arrested and police will release info in next 10 hours. this person was in contact regularly with Pakistan, srilanka and Indian (wtf?) teams. his cell phone is confiscated too.
another news is the famous terrorist Dawood Ibrahim in Pakistan was involved with Huge betting money and he ordered the killing (of course its a rumor) .but lets see.
at least the police were able to announce that it was murder..... hope this gets over soon, its just a Dark day in cricket history,
All those normal peoples who try to make quick bucks by illegal betting should think now, their money snowballed into such a big moollah that someone killed someone just to take the biggest share of pie.... really sad and sick.
i think GeoTV mentioning that 1 suspect in Jamaica arrested and police will release info in next 10 hours. this person was in contact regularly with Pakistan, srilanka and Indian (wtf?) teams. his cell phone is confiscated too.
another news is the famous terrorist Dawood Ibrahim in Pakistan was involved with Huge betting money and he ordered the killing (of course its a rumor) .but lets see.
at least the police were able to announce that it was murder..... hope this gets over soon, its just a Dark day in cricket history,
All those normal peoples who try to make quick bucks by illegal betting should think now, their money snowballed into such a big moollah that someone killed someone just to take the biggest share of pie.... really sad and sick.
If India don't win they are out also.
The Indian cricket coach Greg Chappell will have to come under high security.
It has to be one or two people close to Bob Wolmer that did the dreadful deed as I am sure the hotel
had good secuirty.
The Indian cricket coach Greg Chappell will have to come under high security.
It has to be one or two people close to Bob Wolmer that did the dreadful deed as I am sure the hotel
had good secuirty.
As one of millions of South Africans who got to know and love Bob Woolmer when he coached the National side, I am absolutely horrified at these events that have taken place! I first met Bob when I played cricket at school and club level and all I can say is that he was a decent and good person who did not deserve this and I am truly shocked and saddened by this disgusting act of violence. The perpetrator(s) of this crime should be made to suffer the same fate as poor Bob Woolmer, sentence him to death by strangulation or garrote him!
murdered..
o dear...
o dear...
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After skimming a few posts, I've come to suspect Silar.
Sylar from Heroes? What the hell
?
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Sylar from Heroes? What the hell ?
?lol.
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Sylar from Heroes? What the hell ?
?ha!
but seriously, i think it may have been a bookie or at least someone connected to them.
They suspect the killing is connected to a gambling mafia / corruption. Yet another sport that is hugely corrupt. They aren't sports anymore... they are businesses and as such some people will stop at no lengths to make a better margin - even murder.
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They suspect the killing is connected to a gambling mafia / corruption. Yet another sport that is hugely corrupt. They aren't sports anymore... they are businesses and as such some people will stop at no lengths to make a better margin - even murder.
I wouldn't be surprised if it is related to that. Wasn't Woolmer the coach of South Africa during the era when they had a few problems with match fixing?
I hope they find out who did this quickly. Its too bad it happenned. People are going to remember the world cup because of this not for Cricket
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