Kevinchen
Jan 24 2008, 17:20
Kevinchen
Jan 24 2008, 17:24
XDViPeR
Jan 24 2008, 17:25
Nice, Good to see Microsot is staying on their word now. Can't wait for the GUI change.
Kevinchen
Jan 24 2008, 17:26
Quote - (Co_Co @ Jan 24 2008, 18:22)

Already Posted..
Sorry, I didn't see them in the forum....
vipwoody
Jan 24 2008, 17:27
this is a vista tweak
Express
Jan 24 2008, 17:32
Thanks for the shots!
1Frothy
Jan 24 2008, 20:21
This is actually exactly what I would expect from Windows 7 in this very early stage. I believe these are genuine.
However I think the poster is taking credit for pictures he did not take, unless his real name is zhou.
Colin-uk
Jan 24 2008, 20:42
moved here
WarStorm
Jan 24 2008, 20:44
Lol i dont think he's taking credit! Not once did he say...He's screenshots I ve taken
SaT117
Jan 25 2008, 05:00
umm i just find something missing on those things

where in that is the sidebar?
i just see the gadgets but where is sidebar?

also why the desktop says EVAL COPY
and on WinVer it dosnt say "this thing will die on DATEHERE"
for those lil things
those screens are fake
saachi
Jan 25 2008, 06:28
Quote - (SaT117 @ Jan 25 2008, 18:00)

where in that is the sidebar?
i just see the gadgets but where is sidebar?
There's no sidebar in Windows 7, you just right-click the desktop and choose "Add Gadget" or similar.
kyosuken
Jan 25 2008, 06:45
I don't think in this early stage there would be SKUs too like "Ultimate" ? seems too fake, but the real thing may look like that
computerpro2
Jan 25 2008, 10:44
Honestly, I understand all of the excitement, however, I cannot confirm those are real screenshots of Windows 7. I just want to make one thing notable, in the M1 build of Longhorn, I dont recall the GUI changing from the looks of the elder Windows XP. So my theory is, why would Microsoft change the GUI bits in the M1 build, and more specifically, I understood all of the current changes in Windows 7 would be "under the hood" changes as opposed to actually changing the GUI bits a little here and there throughout the OS....
I have been reading some posts on different forums, some are saying these are fake and while there are some that say they are real. Also, WHY would the Winver dialogue have "Ultimate" there, I am pretty sure Microsoft would have dropped that acronym and simply put "Windows 7" in place of "Windows Vista Ultimate"....
A lot of what looks to be Windows 7 in the screenshots could have been created by the user whom took or otherwise manipulated Windows Vista in-order to make it look as though it be legit, athough, it would take a bit of work to do this, editing the appropriate dll's and / or MUI or hex editing... although the theme would be easy, since there is no need to run a 3rd party program to use themes on Vista... This user could have simply created the theme and other anomalies...
xxx333
Jan 25 2008, 10:57
randomnut
Jan 25 2008, 11:00
Quote - (kyosuken @ Jan 25 2008, 06:45)

I don't think in this early stage there would be SKUs too like "Ultimate" ? seems too fake, but the real thing may look like that
Damnit this really annoys me. Why has everyone heard the term 'SKU' and tagged onto it and keep bleating it out like they know the hell what they're talking about?
SKU stands for STOCK KEEPING UNIT. It's a term for retailers only and has no relevance outside of a stockroom! You have no idea how stupid you sound regurgitating terms like that when you have no idea when to use them....
EDIT: elektrownik, that line is so people can hit ALT+the underlined letter to get to the option instead of clicking. As the 3rd option has L underlined, hitting ALT+L would go to option 3, option 4 has used 'r' to make it unique.
kraized
Jan 25 2008, 11:04
Quote - (elektrownik @ Jan 25 2008, 10:57)

Why should it be under the first letter? "L" is already used with "Larger" so surely thats why "r" is used for "Largest"?
arobbo
Jan 25 2008, 11:07
Quote - (elektrownik @ Jan 25 2008, 21:57)

Im sorry but you are dead wrong with the last picture. Obviously the largest screen size cant have the same letter keyboard shortcut (real name?) that the Larger screen size does.
Neobond
Jan 25 2008, 11:08
Quote - (kyosuken @ Jan 25 2008, 07:45)

I don't think in this early stage there would be SKUs too like "Ultimate" ? seems too fake, but the real thing may look like that
The very first developer release of Vista was titled Windows®
Longhorn XP Professional So really all they did was add in the Longhorn to the name, not much unlike removing Vista from Windows
Vista Ultimate in the OS system properties dialogs and changing it to 7 instead.

Remember a developer version wouldn't take too much notice in finalizing the system branding, they would be more concerned that the codename is added in.
Maximum Error
Jan 25 2008, 11:08
Quote - (elektrownik @ Jan 25 2008, 10:57)

Fake...

its under the third letter cos you dont use the same letter twice..... it shouldnt be under the first one all the time. the rule is that the same letter is not used for two options. But i agree.... they do seem slightly photoshopped.
Cidinho
Jan 25 2008, 11:15
We can't be sure, but if it's not like this, it's probably just an older GUI or no Aero.
Markus-J
Jan 25 2008, 11:16
Quote - (SaT117 @ Jan 25 2008, 05:00)

umm i just find something missing on those things
<SNIP>
where in that is the sidebar?
i just see the gadgets but where is sidebar?
<SNIP>
also why the desktop says EVAL COPY
and on WinVer it dosnt say "this thing will die on DATEHERE"
for those lil things
those screens are fake
http://www.neowin.net/forum/index.php?show...amp;p=589161144
Haddaway
Jan 25 2008, 11:24
Quote - (elektrownik @ Jan 25 2008, 10:57)


You Sir, know nothing about Windows.
chezy666
Jan 25 2008, 11:29
Quote - (elektrownik @ Jan 25 2008, 10:57)

I hope you know why they are underlined.
computerpro2
Jan 25 2008, 11:59
While I was on connect, i came the realization that Powershell (and more specifically, the version in the screenshots) is version 2 of powershell, which is currently in beta and I just recently downloaded it and I am testing it now. I could think of many reasons, but this alone should be sufficient, why would Microsoft use a beta product in an alpha version of Windows 7. Granted, it would work but the Powershell team hasnt even finished the final release of Version 2, I also know that Microsoft uses the alpha / beta / rc versions in-house, but why would they put a beta version of an unfinished product in an alpha OS and later send it to key partners? I completely understand how Microsoft operates and have been following the company for 10 years.... But it just gets me that they would do something like that...
If Vista is anything to go by, Windows 7 may well change radically between now and final release.
Markus-J
Jan 25 2008, 12:34
Quote - (RND @ Jan 25 2008, 12:30)

If Vista is anything to go by, Windows 7 may well change radically between now and final release.
alexander3133
Jan 25 2008, 13:36
I am surprised that Windows Power Shell does support 'ls' command that is originally from Linux system, what I know in XP do not have that command, but don't know about Vista.
Quote - (alexander3133 @ Jan 25 2008, 05:36)

I am surprised that Windows Power Shell does support 'ls' command that is originally from Linux system, what I know in XP do not have that command, but don't know about Vista.
the powershell supports most unix shell commands (the basic ones)
ZombieFly
Jan 25 2008, 13:52
Quote - (elektrownik @ Jan 25 2008, 10:57)

Fake...

Wow, you just publicly made a complete and utter fool out of yourself, you don't even understand how a keyboard shortcut works!
its evident from your sig that you need to go outside and play with the other kids in the sunshine.
jzetterman
Jan 25 2008, 13:55
Quote - (alexander3133 @ Jan 25 2008, 08:36)

I am surprised that Windows Power Shell does support 'ls' command that is originally from Linux system, what I know in XP do not have that command, but don't know about Vista.
Well that's why it's called Powershell and not just the normal command.com.
BlakByte
Jan 25 2008, 14:15
who cares
Jet Ju
Jan 26 2008, 04:24
But Where to download?
If someone konw please tell me.My email:jetbillwin@gmail.com.
iMonkey
Jan 26 2008, 04:30
Sorry Jet Ju, Warez isn't allowed here at Neowin so no TOS abiding user is going to tell you where to get this.
[Not implying in any way that this is publicly available.]
bl4ck5un
Jan 26 2008, 04:37
Quote - (elektrownik @ Jan 25 2008, 10:57)

its people like you that give websites like this a bad reputation.
PGHammer
Jan 26 2008, 19:20
Quote - (jzetterman @ Jan 25 2008, 14:55)

Well that's why it's called Powershell and not just the normal command.com.
Windows PowerShell is a scripting add-on (similar to longtime NT CLI alternatives 4NT and TakeCommand or Linux' csh, a commonly-included alternative to the default Bourne Again Shell, or BASH) originally developed for XP/Server 2003 (however, it also works in Vista/Server 2008). V2 is currently in beta-testing.
Also, unlike 4NT or TakeCommand, Windows PowerShell has *always* been free.
XP version:
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details...;displaylang=enVista (x86):
http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkID=79516&clcid=0x409Vista (x64):
http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkID=79517&clcid=0x409Server 2003 SP1/R2 (x86):
http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkID=75790&clcid=0x09Server 2003 (x64):
http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkID=75791&clcid=0x09WPS is included in Server 2008.
PGHammer
Jan 26 2008, 19:29
Quote - (jzetterman @ Jan 25 2008, 14:55)

Well that's why it's called Powershell and not just the normal command.com.
Linux/UNIX-style scripting has been a big thing in most NT CLI alternatives. I remember seeing that option in not just TakeCommand/32, the longtime 9x/NT CLI alternative from JP Software, but the not-exactly-typical Hamilton C Shell for Win32, a pure C shell for Win32 operating systems (originally developed for Windows NT 3.5x, it also works on 9x, and all succeeding NT OSes up to XP). Also, the target userbase for WPS is the server admin, who may (and usually does) also have Linux/UNIX servers to run and would rather be able to use the same scripts to administer all the servers. With Windows PowerShell, now he (or she) can.
Tom Servo
Jan 26 2008, 19:36
Quote - (Rudy @ Jan 25 2008, 14:50)

the powershell supports most unix shell commands (the basic ones)
It doesn't.
They're just aliases to the fully qualified commands, the parameters nor the output of the Cmdlets are nothing close to the real *nix versions.
Brandon Live
Jan 26 2008, 22:22
"ls" isn't new to Windows. It's there in at least the last several NT versions if you install the POSIX subsystem (which has been superceded by SFU / Interix / whatever it's called these days).
jzetterman
Jan 28 2008, 10:21
Quote - (PGHammer @ Jan 26 2008, 15:20)

Windows PowerShell is a scripting add-on (similar to longtime NT CLI alternatives 4NT and TakeCommand or Linux' csh, a commonly-included alternative to the default Bourne Again Shell, or BASH) originally developed for XP/Server 2003 (however, it also works in Vista/Server 2008). V2 is currently in beta-testing.
Also, unlike 4NT or TakeCommand, Windows PowerShell has *always* been free.
I know that, I made my comment because the guy said you can't do an LS in Windows XP. I was pointing out that you can't do it from command.com, but you can from Windows PowerShell.
tdrock
Jan 28 2008, 20:22
SammyX
Jan 31 2008, 11:04
Quote - (elektrownik @ Jan 25 2008, 10:57)

Pwnt.
Ducane
Mar 24 2008, 02:15
Well I thought he was being sarcastic.
Crazysah
Mar 31 2008, 03:43
I don't think the official pics will come for some time...
zero061099
Apr 29 2008, 05:53
I agree! The SS's u are seeing are really nothing. Does anyone REALLY believe that Windows 7 (code name I know) will look like that? Hell no!
It's possible BUT I doubt it. The whole point of the next windows version is its supposed to e faster! It wouldnt be faster if they chose to use the same old Vista them.
ArtOfTheWire
Apr 29 2008, 06:01
Vista used to look like XP till later in beta....why does no one remember this?
Scirwode
Apr 29 2008, 06:16
Quote - (Black.Mac @ Apr 29 2008, 14:01)

Vista used to look like XP till later in beta....why does no one remember this?
People have short memories.
Scirwode
SHoTTa35
Apr 29 2008, 15:03
short memory or selective? I think they just choose not to remember or just don't know any better as they weren't old enough or too old now.
(just kidding... geeze)
Anyways, lots of people just don't expect to see the "new" OS looking just like it does now. They expect to see some leaked video of 3D interface with some guy not using a mouse but using "minority report style" interface or something.
Tha Bloo Monkee
Apr 29 2008, 15:07
Looks exactly the same to me. Not like I care about it now anyways, it's still way too early.
It's just like Vista and how people were talking about it 3 years before it even came out...
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