It's funny that there isn't one yet so therefore, here is the big WWE thread. What happened last monday, tuesday or friday? How do you feel about it? What do you think about the next PPV?

Discuss it all in here...

WWE just got mega-dull again.

Cena is back, being the puppet he is.
Big show is back - lot's of slow matches.
Y2J was missused and becomes another mid-card jobber
HHH is back to winning

Hell, we could rewind the WWE 4 years and see the same matches.

lol njlouch, slow matches? Did you see him at No Way Out? He's a fast mofo now.

Sick of Cena, (The fans don't know rather to love or hate him)
Big Show is good to beat up little people,
They really need to use Y2J more and give him a title shot since he's back
I really thought they'd give Jeff the tittle shot at WM24 but to no avail (WTF)

Yeah defo time to give guys like Jeff, Jericho, Rey Mysterio pushes these guys are the most exciting in the business and are the future.

Good to see Big Show back and man that guys has lost some weight !!!

HHH using his stroke all over again to get into the WM main event., should be Jeff Hardy.

Yeah defo,until he decides to give the wrestling game up i think he will always be involved in the main events due to his family connections with Vince.

Nice idea for a thread. I don't usually watch Raw because it's usually got the same stuff happening or the same people are always in the main event like HHH and Cena. It was pretty refreshing for a while with Orton and Hardy being the main event but now Cena and HHH are back into it i can't be bothered to watch. Oh and not to forget Vince, his current storyline bores the hell out of me but at least Finley's getting a push.

I usually watch Smackdown because Edge and MVP are way more entertaining.

I actually hate MVP because he has like the 7th longest reign of the US title and when did he last defend it, 3 months back?...its a disgrace to the US titles history. I just want to see how they use Mayweather its clear its gonna be a WM ppv match against the Big Show just how like a tag match with Rey or just him 1 on 1.

I'm an HHH fan so I don't mind him winning, he has an awesome way of fighting. It's been ages though since I saw Kane on the Raw scene and I miss him. The brothers of destruction were the best tag-team (along side the Hardy Boyz) I've ever seen.

As for Smackdown, the Undertaker should beat the hell out of Edge. I can't stand his relationship with (what's her name again) to keep his title.

Vicky Guerrero and the only reason she is still there is because they feel sorry for her that she has nothing now.

I can see Edge maybe ending takers streak

Agreed. WWE is forgetting its own rules. There is a rule in WWE that says that a title must be defended at least once every 30 days. They've had to strip champions because of major injuries that left them unable to defend the title in 30 days.

Which brings me to the other point about MVP he was ill with a heart problem and was not stripped of the title and for the month or so he was out they could of had a new champion like Matt Hardy who deserves a good push.

I thought that Matt was originally supposed to win in a big payoff match resulting in a push for him but he got injured. Or am i just remembering something else?

The only reason i don't mind the Edge/Vicky storyline is because Edge is in it and it's adding to his heel character because we all know that he's using her to keep the title. And frankly, that just makes him more awesome.

Oh and did anyone else notice that when Orton got hit the ref at No Way Out that some of the crowd started cheering and jumping around when he got disqualified? I found that pretty funny.

Yeah clearly because the crowd really loathes Cena even now after a few months out.

Any idea about WWE divas ...........

Which one?

Maria is in Playboy next month

Diva's............. Yummy !!!

Amen to that brother!

Is it just me or are the crowds at WWE events simply dead these days? Or at least that's how it portrays on TV. I was watching some old classics of The Rock doing mic work on Daily Motion and I just thought WOW, he could damn sure work the crowd. Nowadays, whenever anyone picks up a mic all you hear is the occasional "What!"

I suppose they can hardly be blamed though. You've got the usual suspects dominating the main events. You've got stupidity like Hornswoggle vs Khali which you know just has "insert babyface interruption here to save the day" written all over it. Mid-carders are forever remaining mid-carders. Decent wrestlers just disappearing on to house shows. (I was gonna mention Shelton Benjamin here, but amazingly they've put him into the MITB Ladder match - which he won't win of course! That's reserved for Kennedy imo)

When you thought they learnt their lesson with Katie Vick, we got Katie Lea and the incest angle!

And what's with the brand extention? Either do it or don't! You got RAW wrestlers on SmackDown, SmackDown wrestlers on RAW, ECW Wrestlers on both! Make your mind up or just make it one big brand again. I mean 2 ECW guys are the SmackDown Tag Team champions - Why? Get some decents Tag Teams on SmackDown! Get some decent Tag Teams period! Constantly bringing back DX for the "one night only reunion" every few weeks doesn't consitute a decent Tag Team division.

I agree with the comment about the US Title and add to that the Intercontinental Title too! Keep the divisions going separately. Lately we've had Jeff Hardy fighting his way to a WWE Title shot, in that case, make him drop the title and get some other guys working that division.

I don't know if it's the lack of decent competition that is causing WWE to act what in my view is just complacency, but well the past just shows that a big attack on it's viewing figures like WCW managed with the nWo is the only thing that threatens Vince and his domination in the "Sports Entertainment" market. It looks like the WWE relaxed attitude is here to stay for a while.

One final note: Mayweather's due to get $20m for his Wrestlemania appearance. Now that is one cool payoff!

I have to agree about the dead crowds. I watched an opening of Raw from 10-11 years ago and the crowd were mental and all you could see was a sea of signs. Now, i don't know if it's due to sign confiscating or the crowd being less excited but you don't see it anymore.

Yeah I mentioned the Mayweather thing in the exclusive stand alone thread in this section!

Just seen the Maria Playboy Spread...I think its safe to say...I would.

It seems as if the Undertakes made a statement yesterday. He's new move is awesome.

I think the Undertaker is gonna lose at WM.

I don't know actually. It is possible because this will be ending his streak and his enormous mind games. We'll see. However, Mysterio lost twice to Edge, I may see Edge losing. I hate Edge anyway.

Maybe I think Edge is like a transitional champion have you ever realised Edge only wins the title when people are injured.

Edge had to give it away as well because of an injury maybe hence the reason why he is so greedy.

Edge gets the title because he's the top heel in the company and possibly North America.

I actually hate Edge the only time I have ever liked him is actually wait the 2 times I have actually liked him was when he beat Cena at that New Years Revolution that year that was off the wall and the time he exposed Litas Breast on Raw.

If you guys hate Edge, then he is doing his job as a heel.

He is the top heel in the company bar none, and probably the best worker they have behind Cena (hate on him all you want, he's been holding the company on his shoulders for years now, literally).

As for Undertaker, he'll never lose at WM, he is going to retire undefeated obviously. And if he does lose at WM, it won't be to Edge (I'm not knocking Edge) - it'll be someone like Shawn Michaels or HHH etc.

It used to be Jeff Jarrett, but he's hardly appeared on TNA ever since his wife passed away due to breast cancer.

Tragic.

Yeah he used to use his stroke but he looks after his kids 24/7 now which is a shame but I think TNA have progressed without him.

Sure this won't go down well with the mods, but heres a forum I visit : http://realwrestlecrap.proboards89.com/index.cgi?board=WWE

The current product is quite stale, I really cant stand how hot Hardy and become and yet he's still not in the main event at mania. It was the perfect time to put the strap on him.

I think that the best heel is Orton.

He used to get cheered everytime he smacked around Cena. But it looks like nowadays even Cena haters hate on Randy Orton due to his cockiness.

Even I probably dislike Orton more than Edge. Edge has that comedic value which Orton doesn't have. He's friggin serious ALL THE DAMN TIME!

I loathe Orton as well with a vengeance but at least Orton is hated by fans!

Does anyone remember Orton when he was in trouble when he went to toilet in a divas kit bag

Some Major WM Spoilers!


Dave Meltzer of the Wrestling Observer Newsletter is reporting that as things stand right now both Triple H and Undertaker will win titles at WrestleMania XXIV. According to Meltzer this will set the stage for a Triple vs. John Cena program this summer.

Undertaker's winning streak isn't going to be broken at WrestleMania and he was promised last year the long title reign that got curtailed due to injuries.

I heard the rumour about the RAW main event result but it didn't surprise me much. Isn't Cena still finishing off a movie at the moment? So that's why he probably won't win and Trips will win because well, he's Triple H.

Yeah Trips just uses his stroke to get the title, it will be interesting tho what happens to Orton when that match is over and where the hell is Hardy!

I don't care to read the spoilers but I hope my wishing outcome is in it.

Here are is Wrestlemania wish-list:

- HHH vs John Cena vs Randy Orton ( c ) -> HHH
- Undertaker vs Edge ( c ) -> Undertaker
- Floyd "Money" Mayweather vs. Big Show -> Big Show
- Ric Flair vs. Shawn Michaels -> Shawn Michaels ( because that's one of the few person's who Flair wants to lose against )
- SmackDown vs. Raw: Batista vs. Umaga -> Batista ( can't stand Umaga )
- Finlay vs. JBL -> Finlay ( can't stand JBL nor Finlay )
- BunnyMania Lumberjack Match: Candice & Maria vs. The Glamazon & Melina -> As long as we get ... I'm fine

I, for one, can't wait till March 31st as I can't watch live and therefore have to download it the day after. It'll be hard not to read this topic before just as it is hard to not touch the spoilers.

EDIT: I do want to point out that it is indeed a pity that Hardy did not get the main event but I'd like to see the HHH - Jeff Hardy story line go on for a while.

EDIT II: Hmm if you type ( C ) without the space in Safari you get ©.

I really can't see Mayweather losing he has cost the WWE to much and I would imagine something written in his contract that he wins at the big one.

Yeah i agree but i don't know if they'll want Show to lose either. I think they'll got with some kind of DQ/No contest finish that at least makes Big Show look good.

Yeah it will be show getting beat up so he low blows mayweather and then he comes back and beats the living crap out of shows slow ass.

Which would be a good match. This might just be an awesome PPV.

Jeff Hardy out of WM then due to Substance Abuse, shame he knows when to spoil a great chance of a title!

60 days ban.

You forgot to mention its his second offense. Next time he is fired.

Yeah its a shame really I really wanted to see Jeff as world champ one day.

I would have to assume they'll stop testing him haha. I mean he already went to TNA once. He has a huge fan base now again. They would be so dumb to fire him. His body probably just needs a rest again. He totally kills himself.

I'm with you on this one though it's sad to see him miss Wrestlemania. Jeff Hardy with a title almost bigger than him in size would be awesome.

Updated WM Card

WWE Title Match
John Cena vs. Triple H vs. Randy Orton

WH Title Match
The Undertaker vs. Edge

Boxer vs. Wrestler
Floyd Mayweather vs. Big Show

Career Match
Shawn Michaels vs. Ric Flair

RAW vs. SmackDown
Umaga vs. Batista

Money in the Bank Match
Mr. Kennedy vs. Chris Jericho vs. Carlito vs. Shelton Benjamin vs. MVP vs. TBD

BunnyMania Lumberjack Match
Candice & Maria vs. Beth Phoenix & Melina

Belfast Brawl
Finlay vs. JBL