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Rappy
UFC 85 is an upcoming mixed martial arts event to be held by the Ultimate Fighting Championship (UFC), the event is to be held on June 7, 2008 at The O2 arena in London, England.

Announced matchups

* Light Heavyweight bout: Chuck Liddell vs Mauricio Rua
* Heavyweight bout: Fabricio Werdum vs Brandon Vera

Quote - Sun
CHUCK LIDDELL says he will knock out Mauricio ‘Shogun’ Rua when the two collide at UFC 85 in June.

The Iceman is set to face ex-Pride superstar Rua at London’s O2 Arena and claims a victory will put him back in title contention.

Liddell said: “I’m looking forward to a great fight. He’s a well-rounded fighter and it should be fun.

“But I think that after I have this fight - and WHEN I win this fight - I deserve a title shot. "

Both fighters are known for their striking ability, with Liddell’s stree t- fighting background set to match up well against Rua, who trained with the infamous Chutebox academy.

Liddell added: “It’s going to end up striking . We both strike a lot but his takedowns don’t impress me.

“With the ones I’ve seen from him in the past, I don’t think he’s got much chance of taking me down.

“But it’s going to be great. I’m going to come out swinging and throwing everything and I plan on knocking him out.”

Brazilian Muay Thai expert Shogun lost his debut UFC clash against Forrest Griffin in September after the American defeated him with a rear naked choke.

A host of ex-Pride fighters have struggled to make the transition from the ring to the cage and Liddell says fighting in the Octagon proves there is a step up in class.

The Iceman said: “ The reason some of the Pride guys aren’t performing well has to do with the fighters themselves and who they’re fighting with.

“There are a lot of good fighters in the UFC and the Pride guys have been used to just fighting with each other. Some of them are overrated.

“I saw a poll where Rameau Sokoudjou came third in the rankings and he’d been knocked out a year before that by a guy that fights out of my gym.

“The guy from my gym i s a tough fighter but isn’t even rated and has never fought in Pride or the UFC .

"But he knocked Sokoudjou out a little over a year ago.”
Zoom7000
I dunno about title shot. He didn't look anywhere near ready against Rampage, he was out of sorts against Jardine and got the decision against Silva. He needs to be ready to KO if he wants to get past Rampage. He's also been getting caught far too many times in his last few fights and that is a big no-no against Rampage who will punish him.

I sure hope Shogun has worked on his conditioning though, gassing in the 2nd round... Not good!
Matrix XII
I think they'll just give Liddell another shot because that's what everyone wants to see, whether he's ready or not.
Rappy
Quote - (Matrix XII @ Mar 3 2008, 09:14) *
I think they'll just give Liddell another shot because that's what everyone wants to see, whether he's ready or not.


It would be pointless shoving him there for him to get pwned again.
Christopher
Doesn't anyone here remember that it will be Rampage and Griffin doing the upcoming Ultimate Fighter season?

Hint Hint?
Rappy
Quote - (Chris R @ Mar 3 2008, 17:37) *
Doesn't anyone here remember that it will be Rampage and Griffin doing the upcoming Ultimate Fighter season?

Hint Hint?


Yeah I would imagine those 2 will meet at the end of the run of Ultimate Fighter.
ZAnwar
Damn. I heard that Brock was fighting someone whilst in the UK aswell. Thats out the window now.

Ah well, atleast if I get some tickets, I can go see Chucky do his stuff.

Rappy, you gonna buy some tickets? biggrin.gif
Rappy
Quote - (ZAnwar @ Mar 4 2008, 12:52) *
Damn. I heard that Brock was fighting someone whilst in the UK aswell. Thats out the window now.

Ah well, atleast if I get some tickets, I can go see Chucky do his stuff.

Rappy, you gonna buy some tickets? biggrin.gif


If they are cheap enough biggrin.gif
Zoom7000
Last time it was £250 for Octogon-side! £25 for right at the back! I'll watch it on TV me thinks! tongue.gif
Rappy
Quote - (Zoom7000 @ Mar 4 2008, 15:09) *
Last time it was £250 for Octogon-side! £25 for right at the back! I'll watch it on TV me thinks! tongue.gif


I'll take 5 shifty.gif

I don't think I will be going then but I imagine to be Octogan side wouldbe awesome!
notta
Liddell is the man, but it's funny how now he's fighting almost every other UFC event now. When he was the champ we got to see him once, maybe twice a year. He wants that belt back bad, but I don't think he can get past Rampage. I hope Rua is in better shape then when he fought Forest because that was just out and out embarassing.
Christopher
Rua has been forced to back out of the fight.

Quote - (Rua Re-Injures Knee, will undergo Surgery @ Mar 4 2008, 12:13) *
Scheduled to make his return to the Octagon this June against Chuck Liddell at UFC 85 in London, light heavyweight star Mauricio “Shogun” Rua has instead been forced to withdraw from the bout due to a ruptured ACL in his left knee, the same injury he had surgery on to repair last October after his UFC 76 fight with Forrest Griffin.

Surgery on the injured knee will be scheduled shortly, and there is no word on when Rua will be cleared to return to the Octagon.

Liddell’s opponent for UFC 85, which will be held at London’s O2 Arena on June 7th, will be announced shortly. As for Rua, he promises to be back and better than ever as soon as possible.
Rappy
Quote - (Chris R @ Mar 5 2008, 22:36) *
Rua has been forced to back out of the fight.


Well thats a crock of...oh well I wonder who they will get now then.

metallithrax - http://www.neowin.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=623479 wink.gif
ZAnwar
NOOOOO!!!!!

Damn, my incentives to get some tickets for this event are slowly evaporating away.
Rappy
Quote - (ZAnwar @ Mar 6 2008, 02:23) *
NOOOOO!!!!!

Damn, my incentives to get some tickets for this event are slowly evaporating away.


Yeah my thoughts exactly!
Bubbabyte
just announced.. the replacement for Shogun will be none other then Rashad Evans... should be interesting, for one because although some of rashad's fights are boring, he likes to stand up and bang... but the big kicker is that Rashad is as of right now undefeated in the UFC.. I'm not as excited for it as i was with shogun but should definitely be interesting.

Quote - (Rappy @ Mar 3 2008, 21:53) *
Yeah I would imagine those 2 will meet at the end of the run of Ultimate Fighter.


yeah it was confirmed they will meet up for ufc 86 on July 5th i believe.

Quote - (notta @ Mar 4 2008, 18:13) *
Liddell is the man, but it's funny how now he's fighting almost every other UFC event now. When he was the champ we got to see him once, maybe twice a year. He wants that belt back bad, but I don't think he can get past Rampage. I hope Rua is in better shape then when he fought Forest because that was just out and out embarassing.


That's not chuck's doing.. that's because not only is he buddy buddy with Dana White, but it's mostly because Chuck is a money maker.. every event chuck is in does really well with tickets and ppv. Now that couture is gone, chuck is the main money make for the UFC, they want to get him in as many events as possible.. when chuck is on top the ufc makes more money.
digipoi
Quote - (Bubbabyte @ Mar 5 2008, 21:56) *
That's not chuck's doing.. that's because not only is he buddy buddy with Dana White, but it's mostly because Chuck is a money maker.. every event chuck is in does really well with tickets and ppv. Now that couture is gone, chuck is the main money make for the UFC, they want to get him in as many events as possible.. when chuck is on top the ufc makes more money.


I have to agree in a sense though I see many more interesting fighters I'd pay more to watch than Chuck. I think the UFC has more guns and if they could loose a Couture they can loose a Chuck without even flinching. They have been banking on all their cards.
ZAnwar
Oh, ok.

So it is Evans v Liddell?

Good, this fight is worth watching aswell!
Rappy
Rashad Evans eh...interesting choice but a good one I think.
Zoom7000
Breaking News!

Quote - 'UFC.com'
CHUCK LIDDELL INJURED; FORCED TO WITHDRAW FROM UFC® 85

The Ultimate Fighting Championship® (UFC®) organisation announced today that Chuck Liddell has been forced to withdraw from the UFC 85 event. Liddell tore his hamstring last week while training for his June 7 bout with undefeated light heavyweight Rashad Evans.

"Unfortunately, Chuck Liddell tore his right hamstring during training last week, and being the warrior that he is, he still wanted to fight, which is the reason why everyone in the world loves him," said Dana White, UFC President. "But I wouldn't let anyone fight with his leg looking that way. Let him heal and come back and fight when he is 100 percent."

Full Story - UFC.com


There's a picture of the injury on there, trust me, it's shocking!

On a lighter note, they're gonna have a huge job taking down all the humongous "Chuck Liddell hits the UK" posters down around here! tongue.gif
Rappy
Thats alot of crap sad.gif

Bring in Fedor! laugh.gif
digipoi
Chuck's leg looks painful.
Bubbabyte
just announced

Rashad Evans vs. James Irvin at UFC 85
SOURCE


honestly.. i'm extremely disappointed, this is not a good ppv event any longer.
Rappy
I watched that Alexander fight but is this a good replacement...no.

Is this event worth watching now...probably not.
digipoi
The last UFC sucked enough. I'm eager for the Penn vs. Sherk fight plus the undercard. Now that is value plus fun. Who the hell is Rashad anyways? tongue.gif
Bubbabyte
so i'm guessing digipoi is a noob to UFC??

being that you thought the last UFC sucked.. which it clearly did not and was the biggest UFC event ever. And you have no idea who Rashad Evans is? I would suggest watching alot more UFC or MMA..lol
Rappy
Rashad Evans I think by memory drew with Tito Ortiz quite recently and beat Bisping.
rajputwarrior
what a crappy ppv now..
digipoi
Quote - (Bubbabyte @ Apr 24 2008, 06:33) *
so i'm guessing digipoi is a noob to UFC??

being that you thought the last UFC sucked.. which it clearly did not and was the biggest UFC event ever. And you have no idea who Rashad Evans is? I would suggest watching alot more UFC or MMA..lol


A noob to UFC would not have UFC 1 ~ 20 on VHS tapes hence the tongue.gif emoticon.

In case I need to spell it our further, I just don't care for Rashad.

The last UFC was not the biggest event ever just because it was the first time held in Canada with a Canadian whooping on an American with just so happening, you! are from Canada. The undercard sucked and was predictable. noob, lol. You guys are young.
rajputwarrior
Quote - (digipoi @ Apr 24 2008, 11:52) *
A noob to UFC would not have UFC 1 ~ 20 on VHS tapes hence the tongue.gif emoticon.

In case I need to spell it our further, I just don't care for Rashad.

The last UFC was not the biggest event ever just because it was the first time held in Canada with a Canadian whooping on an American with just so happening, you! are from Canada. The undercard sucked and was predictable. noob, lol. You guys are young.


the undercard was pretty good, how was the franklin fight not good? or the danzig fight? all you care about is the big names. Who cares if the undercards aren't big names look at the fights themselves. last UFC was the best one i have seen in a while. It completely destroyed the boxing fight that happened that night too (and was good cause the old man lost, best moment ever was when roy jones kicked his ass). This UFC may not have big names but i still bet it'll have some good fights so i will be watching it for sure.
Zoom7000
So, from an originally planned Chuck Liddell vs. Mauricio Rua, we now have Rashad Evans vs. James Irvin (Still not confirmed on the UFC website though)

Either way, what a joke of a PPV it has become now!
Bubbabyte
Quote - (digipoi @ Apr 24 2008, 19:52) *
A noob to UFC would not have UFC 1 ~ 20 on VHS tapes hence the tongue.gif emoticon.

In case I need to spell it our further, I just don't care for Rashad.

The last UFC was not the biggest event ever just because it was the first time held in Canada with a Canadian whooping on an American with just so happening, you! are from Canada. The undercard sucked and was predictable. noob, lol. You guys are young.


get your facts together jackass, ufc 83 WAS the biggest UFC event ever. I never claimed it was the best because i'm from canada, i simply said it was the biggest event in ufc history, which it was. Just because you have 20 ufc VHS you think that makes you somehow better? No, it just makes you stupid because the dvd's have been out for quite some time.
Also, i dont really care for Rashad either, but you acted as if you've never heard of him... but now that i know you own the first 20 UFC on VH ****ing S, i'll never question your knowledge again tough guy.
digipoi
Quote - (Bubbabyte @ Apr 24 2008, 11:46) *
get your facts together jackass, ufc 83 WAS the biggest UFC event ever. I never claimed it was the best because i'm from canada, i simply said it was the biggest event in ufc history, which it was. Just because you have 20 ufc VHS you think that makes you somehow better? No, it just makes you stupid because the dvd's have been out for quite some time.
Also, i dont really care for Rashad either, but you acted as if you've never heard of him... but now that i know you own the first 20 UFC on VH ****ing S, i'll never question your knowledge again tough guy.


jackass? they were taped live because I been around that long. thats the only point I was trying to make. Remember you attacked me first because I didn't care for this card and made a joke about Rashad. Called me a noob when I been around MMA much longer than you have. Its not about who's **** was bigger to me because I encourage fans to the sport of boxing and MMA. I just so happened to think for the money value, its wasn't much worth it. When you have undercards with small names they normally do not sell well, see most of PPV boxing and its failures. MMA is still new and I do pray they do not follow into the pits of bureaucracy and corruption. See the Glen Johnson fight from two weeks ago.

Quote - (rajputwarrior @ Apr 24 2008, 11:06) *
It completely destroyed the boxing fight that happened that night too (and was good cause the old man lost, best moment ever was when roy jones kicked his ass).


Its actually fans like you thats ruining both sports constantly trying to compare the two. Ever since I expressed my following of Hopkins, you have taken a personal interest in trying to insult me. Why would you want to defend a man like Roy that fights dogs and chickens? The man can't fight for himself since stepping up to Johnson and twice to Tarver (real light heavyweight champs). Thats whats so irritating about the casual boxing fan that admires the big names of boxing, something you pinned on me with the MMA. You know the guys that still follow heavyweight boxing and the Mike Tyson circus. If you know nothing about boxing, you should keep it down to a dull roar. Otherwise show some class. Boxing needs it and MMA will soon enough.

BTW. For a man in Hopkins who was thrown in prematurely with Roy, he went the full distance in a close fight. Its was not an ass kicking had you ever seen the fight.
Bubbabyte
ufc 85 just got a little better.. a little.

Hughes vs. Alves tapped for UFC 85 main event

SOURCE
Rappy
Now thats a nice main event.
ZAnwar
Hughes, as in Matt Hughes? Good stuff.

Still not worth me buying 250 quid cage side tickets though.
Rappy
No I wouldn't go to see it because its not a massive draw now but a live ppv charge yeah maybe.
Rappy
Another Match Named...

Quote - MMA Junkie
ust hours after the organization announced a UFC 85 main event of Matt Hughes vs. Thiago Alves, the UFC also confirmed a main-card bout between Chris Leben (18-4 MMA, 8-3 UFC) and Michael Bisping (15-1 MMA, 5-1 UFC).

MMAjunkie.com (www.mmajunkie.com) mentioned the possibility of the bout on Wednesday, and on Friday evening, the UFC made it official.

UFC 85, which also features a bout between former headliner Rashad Evans and James Irvin (a replacement for injured Chuck Liddell), takes place at the O2 Arena in London, England.

Bisping agreed to the bout less than a week after his UFC 83 main-card victory over Charles McCarthy. Bisping, the light heavyweight winner of "The Ultimate Fighter 3," made his middleweight debut with a first-round TKO at the event. McCarthy announced his retirement just days after the fight.

Bisping will now take on hard-hitting Leben, a product of the first season of "The Ultimate Fighter" who most recently TKO'd Alessio Sakara at UFC 82 in March. The 27-year-old, who began his UFC career with five straight victories, will now go for his third straight win after back-to-back losses to Jason MacDonald and Kalib Starnes.

With this week's flurry of UFC 85 transactions, a solid middleweight bout between Nate Marquardt and Thales Leites has now officially been relegated to the un-televised preliminary card.

UFC 85 is currently slated to air on pay per view.

The latest card now includes:

MAIN CARD (TELEVISED)

* Thiago Alves vs. Matt Hughes
* Michael Bisping vs. Chris Leben
* Marcus Davis vs. Mike Swick
* Rashad Evans vs. James Irvin
* Brandon Vera vs. Fabricio Werdum

PRELIMINARY CARD (NOT TELEVISED)

* Martin Kampmann vs. Jorge Rivera
* Thiago Tavares vs. Matt Wiman
* Thales Leites vs. Nate Marquardt
* Luiz Cane vs. Jason Lambert
* Roan Carneiro vs. Ryo Chonan
* Jess Liaudin vs. Paul Taylor
* Antoni Hardonk vs. Neil Wain
rajputwarrior
that card looks pretty good, seeing tavares would be sweet, hopefully they will show that fight after the main event if there is time and lambert is pretty good too.
metallithrax
Bisping v Leben could be good. I forsee a Bisping win though.

But if you read the other thread, you know what my choices did. laugh.gif

Although I will say that I chose the fighters that I wanted to win, not the ones I thought would win.
Zoom7000
I had a feeling they'd throw Bisping in there to strengthen up the card, especially seeing as it's in the UK. However, I still think it looks a poor event and possible low PPV buys.
Zoom7000
This card is cursed! tongue.gif
Quote -
Leben Out, Day In For Bisping at UFC 85
By Thomas Gerbasi

With legal issues preventing middleweight contender Chris Leben from being able to prepare sufficiently for a June 7th bout with Michael Bisping in London, England, Canada’s Jason ‘Dooms’ Day has stepped in to face ‘The Count’ in a featured bout on the UFC 85: Bedlam card at the O2 Arena.

"Obviously I was looking forward to the Leben fight but I guess it wasn't to be,” said Bisping. "You have to respect Jason Day for stepping in on even shorter notice than myself. I am looking forward to really putting on a great performance in London."

“I love this fight,” said Day. “Everybody’s been asking me who would I like to fight next, and I said Bisping, but who would have thought it would have come about so quickly. He’s a great fighter, an exciting fighter, tough as nails, and everybody wants that marquee fight where you get the guy that tests you and you slug it out for two or three rounds. I think he’s a pretty good test for me.”

Leben turned himself in to Clackamas County officials in Oregon last week in response to a probation violation on a 2005 DUI conviction. Leben was in the process of completing the terms of his probation when he moved from Oregon to Hawaii last year. Attempts to complete these terms in Hawaii were unsuccessful, leading to Leben’s decision to voluntarily turn himself in. On Thursday, he was sentenced to 35 days in jail. With time served, Leben will be released in late May, not leaving sufficient time to prepare for the Bisping bout.

Enter Lethbridge, Alberta’s Day (17-5), who made a spectacular debut in the Octagon in April as he stopped highly-touted Alan Belcher in the first round at UFC 83.

"Jason Day looked bloody dangerous in his fight
ad
with Belcher and I think this fight has exactly the same potential as the Leben fight to be a real war,” said Bisping.

Now looking to put another notch in his belt, the 29-year old Day – who also holds wins over UFC vets Jonathan Goulet, David Loiseau, and Ron Faircloth – will try to stall the title ambitions of UK superstar Bisping (16-1), whose middleweight debut win over Charles McCarthy on the same UFC 83 card has gotten fans buzzing.

“If you take a look at me and Bisping, we’re both well-rounded fighters, both very well-conditioned, and we both have a reputation for being tough and durable,” said Day. “So I think this has Fight of The Night written all over it, and maybe even Fight of The Year. I think it’s gonna be an awesome fight. I’ve got a lot of respect for him and it sounds like he’s not gonna take me lightly either.”

In the UFC 85 main event, welterweight legend Matt Hughes begins his run at an unprecedented third 170-pound title when he takes on Brazilian wrecking machine Thiago Alves. Tickets are on sale now.

Source - UFC.com

They should announce Randy vs Fedor as the main event for UFC 85 and then tell everyone they couldn't agree contractual terms! laugh.gif
Rappy
Its making it not even worthwhile to buy the ppv now.
Zoom7000
I was only ever interested in Chuck vs Shogun! That main event seems an eternity ago now!
Bubbabyte
This card just gets more retarded as the days go by....

Quote -
Hours after the organization announced that Luiz Cane (7-1 MMA, 0-1 UFC) would replace an injured James Irvin (14-4 MMA, 4-3 UFC) and fight Rashad Evans (11-0-1 MMA, 6-0-1 UFC) on June 7, the UFC announced that Evans has been pulled from the fight card all together.

Cane will now fight his originally scheduled opponent, Jason Lambert (23-7 MMA, 4-2 UFC), on the night's un-aired preliminary card.

UFC 85 has now been finalized with 11 bouts, and a preliminary middleweight fight between Nate Marquardt (26-7-2 MMA, 5-1 UFC) and Thales Leites (12-1 MMA, 3-1 UFC) has been promoted to the televised main card of the pay-per-view-event.


So just so i understand this...

Chuck vs. Shogun

Chuck vs. Rashad

Rashad vs. James Irvin

Rashad vs. Luiz Cane

Lambert vs. Luiz Cane??? (that's our Chuck vs. Shogun replacement????)
Rappy
I would say scrap it but you can't do that but think will probably be the worse card ever.
Rappy
Main Card

* Welterweight bout: Matt Hughes vs. Thiago Alves
* Middleweight bout: Michael Bisping vs. Jason Day
* Welterweight bout: Mike Swick vs. Marcus Davis
* Heavyweight bout: Fabricio Werdum vs. Brandon Vera
* Middleweight bout: Nathan Marquardt vs. Thales Leites

Preliminary Card

* Middleweight bout: Martin Kampmann vs.Jorge Rivera
* Lightweight bout: Matt Wiman vs. Thiago Tavares
* Light Heavyweight bout: Jason Lambert vs.Luis Cane
* Welterweight bout: Roan Carneiro vs. Flag of Japan Ryo Chonan
* Heavyweight bout: Antoni Hardonk vs. Neil Wain
* Welterweight bout: Paul Taylor vs. Jess Liaudin

Hughes has to be careful of Alves because he is an animal.
Bubbabyte
i'm not looking forward to this card AT ALL... maybe the Vera fight but otherwise i don't find it interesting.
digipoi
Reminds me of UFC 83. At least I don't have to fork out PPV bucks.
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