Where?

Do you mean THIS ?

Shift Linux Developer forum I meant.

I guess the only people who would know what you meant there are those who were part of the Shift Linux Team or otherwise had access to that forum. I just figured that when the Team was axed that forum became unavailable to former Team members.

Weren't you a mod there or something? Are you saying the dev forum was deleted? I hope not as there was a lot of good information posted there.

I can still see it, but I think it is inactive until the team is re-badged and set into the "dev" group.

Yes.. since the Shift group that was has been taken out, many of the group may not see it. That will change with the new group added.

You know, I was a member of the Shift Team and had access to that subforum. I may not have been a core member but I did write some good copy for the Shift Wiki, including an introduction to the project that really does hit all the right nails on their heads: http://shiftlinux.net/wiki/index.php/Shift_Basics

I learned how to make my own Shift distro, I contributed ideas here and there and I was also on board to help with the promotional push for Shift One. I learned a lot and was proud to be a member of the team. I remain grateful to Barney and CrimsonRedMk for all their help.

Now that the dust has settled a bit and I've had a chance to think more on it, I just don't know how I feel about it. I mean, I woke up one day a couple of weeks ago to find, like all other Shift Team Members, that the Team had been axed without warning. All of us normal Members lost access to the dev subforum and the ideas, logs and links that we'd been putting there.

I really believed in Shift (just look at that link above to see what I thought it was all about). I am not sure about it now. I am not sure that I liked the rug being pulled out from under me without any notice or cause. I don't know if I want it to happen again, to me at least.

Yeah, it seemed sudden to me, too. If a member, or several, withdrew (and on good terms, as this seemed to be), it would have made more sense to me to just remove those individuals and the others could remained/continued more smoothly. This has a bit of a feeling of discontinuity.

(but that is just a feeling, as I have made several changes to the Flux part, so I am anxiously awaiting full resumption of Shift - even if I am only helping out with a small part of it)

Do not fret, guys. I will try to explain this to the best of my ability.

No, the dev forum is not deleted.... the Shift team were the only ones who could have access to it, and we have not re-assigned who is on that team This is why you can not see it.

Shift is not dead, but we have to re-organize. When I found out that some Shift team members had decided to move out, I had (and still have) no idea who remains committed to Shift. I do know that we can fill the void, however, we need to fill in and re-activate the Shift staff. It takes time to add and train new members of the staff....... a smooth transition is really hard to do. That is the reason for the re-grouping on the 19th of April. There was no intention of "pulling the rug" out from under anyone, but we had to start fresh. The resignation of some staff was equally surprising to me.

It seems that we have some dedicated members who want to carry on, and for that I am thankful. Shift needs dedicated members to make it work. And, we probably need to make a different type of structure so that we have some depth in case of staff leaving.

Since I was elected project manager and developer a long time ago, I have tried to keep everyone focused on the project, the goals, and the reason why we are doing it. Through different comings and goings of staff we have had to start over and over again. As we prepare to do this again, I suggest that we organize in a way that makes the team responsible for the outcome, instead of just a few. That includes me........... managing this has been great fun, but very, very time consuming and difficult at times.

So, please be patient and wait for our meeting. I am very greatful for your willingness to put forth the efforts to make this a great distro. I hope that you will stick with it as we move forward.