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serafins

Apr 11 2008, 09:41

The official site of Opera in China was shot down just before this noon.

Starting in the afternoon, the domain is now an "Art" site selling some cheap fake paintings.

Update1:

Words from an Opera staff:
http://www.operachina.com/viewtopic.php?f=...2ab37ced#p34791

It WAS miibeian at work.

operachina.com is, at this moment, temp. back.

ImpulsE

Apr 11 2008, 09:53

typo... shot down.

Why? Did they give any reason? Oh wait, they're the chinese government, of course not.

snuke

Apr 11 2008, 09:59

well, it's still an art related site, right?

probably an extremely late attempt on an april fool's joke?

DrCheese

Apr 11 2008, 10:05

??
The Chinese government have no power to shutdown .com domains so I'm a lil confused by this. Are you sure that's the correct URL? If so, then someone at opera forgot to renew the domain on time

tiagosilva29

Apr 11 2008, 10:11

Quote - (serafins @ Apr 11 2008, 10:41)

The official site of Opera in China, operachina.com, was shot down just before this noon.

Starting in the afternoon, the domain is now an "Art" site selling some cheap fake paintings.

The correct subdomain is cn.opera.com

HTML

<a href="http://jp.opera.com">jp.opera.com</a> | <a href="http://ru.opera.com">ru.opera.com</a> | <a href="http://pl.opera.com">pl.opera.com</a> | <a href="http://de.opera.com">de.opera.com</a> | <a href="http://cn.opera.com">cn.opera.com</a> | <a href="http://tw.opera.com">tw.opera.com</a> | <a href="http://in.opera.com">in.opera.com</a>

serafins

Apr 11 2008, 10:15

Quote - (tiagosilva29 @ Apr 11 2008, 18:11)

The correct subdomain is cn.opera.com

I'm talking about the official forum in china.

I'm (was?) a Mod of the customization section. BTW

As a skin making contest being held is interrupted,

I'm thinking how to talk the Admin into giving me one of the prizes,

a wii and an iPod nano 4G included,

if it cant be resumed.

Oh, and you sir, tiagosilva29, may throw the link of my.opera.com into my face,

sorry, the people in China are blocked from it.

daPhoenix

Apr 11 2008, 10:23

Ever thought they might have.. *gasp* sold the site or address?

Relativity_17

Apr 11 2008, 10:26

This probably isn't so much about the Chinese government as it is about capitalism, and that someone forgot to pay their domain renewal fee.

tiagosilva29

Apr 11 2008, 10:28

Quote - (serafins @ Apr 11 2008, 11:15)

save it.

I'm talking about the official forum.

I'm (was?) a Mod BTW.

Sure.

Which is also linked in the chinese page.

HTML

<a href="http://my.opera.com/community/">My Opera 社区</a>

Check the webarchive if you can find when they zapped it into a store.

serafins

Apr 11 2008, 10:33

Quote - (tiagosilva29 @ Apr 11 2008, 18:28)

Sure.

Which is also linked in the chinese page.

HTML

<a href="http://my.opera.com/community/">My Opera 社区</a>

EXACTLY what I was thinking, so I edited my reply.

scroll upwards.

is this what people called "ownage"?

tiagosilva29

Apr 11 2008, 10:42

Quote - (serafins @ Apr 11 2008, 11:33)

is this what people called "ownage"?

Not really. Ownage is you being deprived from your forum by miibeian. How's it like to live in China?
No drop. No game. No fun.

Quote -

Technical Name ..................
Technical Organization ..........
Technical Address ............... TianHe JunJinRoad No.73
Technical City .................. GuangZhou
Technical Province/State ........ GongDong
Technical Postal Code ........... 510665
Technical Country Code .......... CN
Technical Phone Number .......... +86.02038663887 -
Technical Fax ................... +86.02038663887 -
Technical Email ................. postmaster@nidc.cn
Expiration Date ................. 2008-08-12 07:48:31

You better start contacting NIDC.

Neo Razgriz

Apr 11 2008, 10:51

China is growing more controlling everyday. The Olympics shouldn't be held there. But the world is weak, so why bother even protesting?

serafins

Apr 11 2008, 11:16

Quote - (Relativity_17)

This probably isn't so much about the Chinese government as it is about capitalism, and that someone forgot to pay their domain renewal fee.

I wished it was the case, but I had contacted Opera staffs.

It is not news to me that some sites are suddenly gone, they made people gone, which is not news either.

Quote - (tiagosilva29)

How's it like to live in China?
You better start contacting NIDC.

I might answer the Q. if my mother didn't flee mainland china just months before giving birth to me.

I don't think Opera can get around like that, for the sake of their business in china.

The_Decryptor

Apr 11 2008, 12:08

Server miss-configuration, DNS screwup, who knows.

The DNS points to the same IP (My server and their name server agree), going to www.operachina.com gives me a page with some crap on it, going to operachina.com gives me another site (even that page says the URL is different).

Maybe somebody was adding a new site to the server, and messed up the server configuration (pointing the domain to the wrong folder)

serafins

Apr 11 2008, 12:14

Quote - (The_Decryptor)

tiagosilva29 is correct on miibeian.

I should have kept a screenshot showing the message from them this noon, which could save a lot of guessing.
my fault.

sorry tiagosilva29, you're a man with healthy skepticism.

I made this too playful, which indeed is really sad.

wellofsouls

Apr 12 2008, 12:24

Quote - (CwSj @ Apr 11 2008, 17:53)

typo... shot down.

Why? Did they give any reason? Oh wait, they're the chinese government, of course not.

I'm pretty sure it has nothing to do with the chinese government, but more like a server screwup. Currently it says " Server under maintenance, expected to be back up on Sunday". Actually it seems the "communist" government likes Opera quite a lot, they made it the default browser of their government-controlled, biggest mobile portal site.

Quote - (Relativity_17 @ Apr 11 2008, 18:26)

This probably isn't so much about the Chinese government as it is about capitalism, and that someone forgot to pay their domain renewal fee.

the current chinese government is all about capitalism anyway

Quote - (tiagosilva29 @ Apr 11 2008, 18:42)

How's it like to live in China?

three words.

Money. Piracy. Tor.

Richardarkless

Apr 12 2008, 12:26

lol they aint the only ones

I really hate the layout plus firefox 3 is getting really fast so why use it

serafins

Apr 12 2008, 14:17

Quote - (Richardarkless @ Apr 12 2008, 20:26)

lol they aint the only ones

I really hate the layout plus firefox 3 is getting really fast so why use it

the default layout is really close to FX and it is much more customizable than FX.

in terms of speed, I would say SF3.1, OP9.5 and FX3 are tight.

serafins

Apr 12 2008, 15:43

Update1:

Words from an Opera staff:
http://www.operachina.com/viewtopic.php?f=...2ab37ced#p34791

It WAS miibeian at work.

the forum is, at this moment, temp. back.

halcyoncmdr

Apr 13 2008, 01:22

Quote - (serafins @ Apr 12 2008, 08:43)

Update1:

Words from an Opera staff:
http://www.operachina.com/viewtopic.php?f=...2ab37ced#p34791

It WAS miibeian at work.

the forum is, at this moment, temp. back.

Haha, according to babelfish... translated it means "Is not the misunderstanding, at present the up-wind commits a crime..."

Yay for automated translators, but at least it is better than characters most here probably can't read.

zivan56

Apr 13 2008, 01:26

How exactly is China "communist"? It is leaning more towards a fascist dictatorship...they don't even meet the requirements of socialism. FYI, true communism was never implemented anywhere...

wellofsouls

Apr 13 2008, 04:47

Quote - (ivanz @ Apr 13 2008, 09:26)

How exactly is China "communist"? It is leaning more towards a fascist dictatorship...

40 years ago maybe, currently it's more like raw barbaric capitalism...

it seems too many people still live in the 1960's

Quote - (serafins @ Apr 12 2008, 23:43)

Update1:

Words from an Opera staff:
http://www.operachina.com/viewtopic.php?f=...2ab37ced#p34791

It WAS miibeian at work.

the forum is, at this moment, temp. back.

So it IS indeed capitalism at work... and bureacracy...

serafins

Apr 13 2008, 05:41

Quote - (wellofsouls @ Apr 13 2008, 12:47)

So it IS indeed capitalism at work... and bureacracy...

there is bureacracy of course, if there is gov.
if the your gov. take down neowin.net at any time they like, blame capitalism, or has the Patriotic Act granded that?

wellofsouls

Apr 13 2008, 07:17

Quote - (serafins @ Apr 13 2008, 13:41)

there is bureacracy of course, if there is gov.
if the your gov. take down neowin.net at any time they like, blame capitalism, or has the Patriotic Act granded that?

when there's some greedy goverment guys taking down websites who don't pay them money, it's what you get with barbaric raw capitalism combined with bureaucracy and corruption. everything needs money, doctors will happily watch you die if you don't have money to pay them to treat you, and money can solve all problem, you can buy out the Patriotic Act if you have enough money. you can even get through the "harmonization"

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