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Hum
Sorry if something simular was posted, but I didn't see any, since 2005.

http://www.blackviper.com/index.html

I've found Black Viper's site well worth using, tho he disappeared a few times.

He has a lot of helpful Windows XP tweaks and now includes Vista guides and tweaks.

Welcome back, Charles yes.gif
Colin-uk
BV does indeed rock yes.gif
DigitalE
It seems like the majority of the the Vista "tweaks" are really just "disable all the features."
Jack 0Neill
Do anything that site suggests, and you break your computer! Good job!
Hum
^ Stuff I've disabled has not 'broken' my Win XP. laugh.gif
atlef
Quote - (Jack 0Neill @ Apr 22 2008, 02:49) *
Do anything that site suggests, and you break your computer! Good job!


Have used his tips for a long time, never broken anything. You need to read what he says about the different services, know what you need, and only disable those you are sure about. Not blindly follow "safe" or any of the other suggestions.

atlef.
Gary7
It is one of the best sites on the Net
iZoom
I agree. He does list tables as others have, but he has seemed to do research into dependencies and what services and functions are related. I had "blindly" turned some off, but after realizing what Windows Firewall depends on for example, I reenabled what is associated with it to function properly. Its a good source of helpful background information.
cropcircles
bv is indeed a legend.
gastoni
Quote - (1941 @ Apr 22 2008, 16:25) *
It is one of the best sites on the Net


And I'll second that!
Skulltrail
Vishal Gupta's website is 10x better. tongue.gif

http://www.askvg.com/
.Gavin
Quote - (Skulltrail @ Sep 28 2008, 09:02) *
Vishal Gupta's website is 10x better. tongue.gif

http://www.askvg.com/


Cheers - added to bookmarks , looks interesting.

The BV site is packed with information, although from a design point of view the site could be re-designed
as its pretty basic.
Skullpture
I don't see anything new. ninja.gif
BlackSteyrAug
BV is the first place I visit after I reformat. After getting Firefox of course.
Growled
Quote - (1941 @ Apr 22 2008, 16:25) *
It is one of the best sites on the Net

Totally agree.
Blasius
Quote - (.Gavin @ Dec 17 2008, 05:37) *
Cheers - added to bookmarks , looks interesting.

The BV site is packed with information, although from a design point of view the site could be re-designed
as its pretty basic.


I for one find the basic design refreshing. Just a black background and a blue border. Perfect. Efficient. Fast.
allan
Quote - (Skulltrail @ Sep 28 2008, 04:02) *
Vishal Gupta's website is 10x better. tongue.gif

http://www.askvg.com/


Tell you what -- I'd never heard of Gupta's site until I just saw your post. I clicked on just one of his links and saw the following (under how to speed up Vista):

5. Type msconfig in RUN or Startmenu search box and press Enter. Now goto Startup tab and deselect the unnecessary entries, which you don't want to start automatically with Windows, e.g. you can disable VGA driver utility, Sound Card utility, etc to speed up the startup time and to increase system performance.

You never - NEVER disable services from within msconfig. Services should always be adjusted from the Services.msc module (Administrative Tools). All you are doing is utilizing diagnostic mode by making changes in msconfig. As I said, that's the only item I happened to read, but it was enough.

I recommend Black Viper's site on my forum all the time and for my money it's still the best.
BlackSteyrAug
Good eye smile.gif
Lt-DavidW
Quote - (allan @ Dec 30 2008, 18:47) *
You never - NEVER disable services from within msconfig. Services should always be adjusted from the Services.msc module (Administrative Tools). All you are doing is utilizing diagnostic mode by making changes in msconfig. As I said, that's the only item I happened to read, but it was enough.

Gupta did not recommend disabling services from msconfig. What you quoted referred to Startup items (not services) and they are safe to disable, as long as you know what you what items are what obviously.

It should be noted that unchecking items from Startup will cause Windows to go into 'Selective Startup' mode. This doesn't do any harm, but you can get Windows back to 'Normal Startup' by deleting all registry keys underneath startupfolder and startupreg in HKLM>Software>Microsoft>Shared Tools>MSConfig. This doesn't reenable any disabled Startup items.

Again, you should know what you are doing should you attempt this.

By the way, does anyone know if Vishal Gupta works for Microsoft? I'm sure I've worked with him before when I used to do work for Microsoft.
allan
Same thing David. It's okay to use msconfig to test startup configurations, but if you want to disable a startup item permanently it should be done from the location at which it starts (ie, startup folder, registry "run" location, etc). An old and great utility for managing startup items is Mike Lin's Startup Control Panel. It's free and I've been recommending it to everyone for many years.
Scorbing
Quote - (allan @ Dec 30 2008, 18:47) *
Tell you what -- I'd never heard of Gupta's site until I just saw your post. I clicked on just one of his links and saw the following (under how to speed up Vista):

5. Type msconfig in RUN or Startmenu search box and press Enter. Now goto Startup tab and deselect the unnecessary entries, which you don't want to start automatically with Windows, e.g. you can disable VGA driver utility, Sound Card utility, etc to speed up the startup time and to increase system performance.

You never - NEVER disable services from within msconfig. Services should always be adjusted from the Services.msc module (Administrative Tools). All you are doing is utilizing diagnostic mode by making changes in msconfig. As I said, that's the only item I happened to read, but it was enough.

I recommend Black Viper's site on my forum all the time and for my money it's still the best.



Listen, no matter what you do, no matter what you change in services, msconfig, etc it's not going to make Vista any better or any faster. Vista being slow it's due to its architecture. It's the way it was designed and only Microsoft can change that not you, me or anybody. The slowness in Vista its due to a design flaw. I am not saying Vista sucks or anything like that, I use it myself, but we all have to admit that it does not respond as quick and as fast as XP because it's the truth.

Hopefully Microsoft learned from their mistakes and all those performance issues will be fixed on Windows 7. I have been testing the Beta of it and so far, so good. Very fast and responsive.
HawkMan
Quote - (Scorbing @ Jan 1 2009, 17:09) *
Listen, no matter what you do, no matter what you change in services, msconfig, etc it's not going to make Vista any better or any faster. Vista being slow it's due to its architecture. It's the way it was designed and only Microsoft can change that not you, me or anybody. The slowness in Vista its due to a design flaw. I am not saying Vista sucks or anything like that, I use it myself, but we all have to admit that it does not respond as quick and as fast as XP because it's the truth.

Hopefully Microsoft learned from their mistakes and all those performance issues will be fixed on Windows 7. I have been testing the Beta of it and so far, so good. Very fast and responsive.



Your truth is wrong.
Scorbing
Quote - (HawkMan @ Jan 1 2009, 17:19) *
Your truth is wrong.



No it's not. Look at the benchmarks. Do a little research and you will see. Especially in games. Stop being so Vista-Obsessed and accept the facts. Vista is fast at some things and very good at others but when it comes to game framerates, it fails. Vista's GUI does not respond as fast as XPs. Do your research.


Here. I'll save you the trouble of looking:

http://news.cnet.com/Windows-XP-outshines-..._3-6220201.html

http://www.ditii.com/2008/04/08/windows-xp...-rtm-benchmark/

http://exo-blog.blogspot.com/2007/11/vista...rmance-dud.html

http://www.fiercecio.com/techwatch/story/v...oint/2008-02-15
HawkMan
Sure Vista's gui responds slower. if you run with DWM off.

if you think a DWM accelerated GUI respornds slower than XP, then you're soking some good ****.

as for games. It goes both ways. today it's actually prettyeven, but some games perform better on Vista some perform better on XP. There's no big majority either way, and there's no huge gap either way either.

Though I have noticed in games that does a lot of texture streaming due to loading an dunloading huge aount of textures constantly (such as MMO orMMO like games(Hellgate)) running in DX10 will give a LOT less of the typical stops or slowdowns that occur in DX9 on these games as it loads textures of the HDD. Wich allows you to run with higher resolution textures without getting those freezes.


And I trust my own bencharking more than I do that of the many anti Vista "journalists" out there, most of whom have never actually used vist at all, and actually use MAc and most of all who would also have thoguh Mojave was awesome.
Scorbing
Quote - (HawkMan @ Jan 1 2009, 19:47) *
Sure Vista's gui responds slower. if you run with DWM off.


What exactly do you mean by this? Isn't that turned on by default when you install Vista?
abcdefg
Quote - (Scorbing @ Jan 1 2009, 18:09) *
Hopefully Microsoft learned from their mistakes and all those performance issues will be fixed on Windows 7. I have been testing the Beta of it and so far, so good. Very fast and responsive.

Everytime I hear how fast Seven is I remind myself of this:

http://talkback.zdnet.com/5208-12554-0.htm...ssageID=1047891

2) And, prior to the release of VISTA there were dozens and dozens of these "benchmarks" published by various journalists and techies extolling performances and capabilities of VISTA that never appeared in the final release.
Some journalists even accepted expensive gift laptops to guarantee favorable reviews after VISTA was released, until an ethical journalist blew the whistle.
But, this PRE-BETA hype of Windows 7 is exactly what Microsoft did with VISTA and its purpose is the same: to keep the deer frozen in the "headlights" until the truck can turn them into roadkill.
The brighter the headlights the closer the truck appears to the deer. The deer is the consumer.
The hype is the bright lights, but no guarantee that the final product will shine as brightly, and the purpose is to prevent the consumer from moving to Mac or Linux.
But, as they say in investing, past performance is no guarantee of future performance.
IF Microsoft couldn't write a good VISTA in the time it gave itself, how can they write a good W7 in even less time?
It doesn't look good.


I'll wait the day Seven ships and benchmark it then.
Scorbing
Quote - (abcdefg @ Jan 1 2009, 19:39) *
Everytime I hear how fast Seven is I remind myself of this:

http://talkback.zdnet.com/5208-12554-0.htm...ssageID=1047891

2) And, prior to the release of VISTA there were dozens and dozens of these "benchmarks" published by various journalists and techies extolling performances and capabilities of VISTA that never appeared in the final release.
Some journalists even accepted expensive gift laptops to guarantee favorable reviews after VISTA was released, until an ethical journalist blew the whistle.
But, this PRE-BETA hype of Windows 7 is exactly what Microsoft did with VISTA and its purpose is the same: to keep the deer frozen in the "headlights" until the truck can turn them into roadkill.
The brighter the headlights the closer the truck appears to the deer. The deer is the consumer.
The hype is the bright lights, but no guarantee that the final product will shine as brightly, and the purpose is to prevent the consumer from moving to Mac or Linux.
But, as they say in investing, past performance is no guarantee of future performance.
IF Microsoft couldn't write a good VISTA in the time it gave itself, how can they write a good W7 in even less time?
It doesn't look good.


I'll wait the day Seven ships and benchmark it then.



Very true your argument.
FrozenEclipse
Quote - (Scorbing @ Jan 1 2009, 10:11) *
No it's not. Look at the benchmarks. Do a little research and you will see. Especially in games. Stop being so Vista-Obsessed and accept the facts. Vista is fast at some things and very good at others but when it comes to game framerates, it fails. Vista's GUI does not respond as fast as XPs. Do your research.


Here. I'll save you the trouble of looking:

http://news.cnet.com/Windows-XP-outshines-..._3-6220201.html

http://www.ditii.com/2008/04/08/windows-xp...-rtm-benchmark/

http://exo-blog.blogspot.com/2007/11/vista...rmance-dud.html

http://www.fiercecio.com/techwatch/story/v...oint/2008-02-15


Are you still stuck in 2007? XP and Vista have been pretty much even in benchmark scores since SP1 was released, based on my OWN benchmarks, so I'll trust those over a 3rd party's.
Scorbing
Quote - (FrozenEclipse @ Jan 1 2009, 20:51) *
Are you still stuck in 2007? XP and Vista have been pretty much even in benchmark scores since SP1 was released, based on my OWN benchmarks, so I'll trust those over a 3rd party's.



I use Vista myself so no, I am not stuck in 2007.
Un4given
Quote - (Skulltrail @ Sep 28 2008, 02:02) *
Vishal Gupta's website is 10x better. tongue.gif

http://www.askvg.com/



Thanks for the link.

I go to BlackViper all the time. But im definitely gonna check VG out.
Dc'1
Quite an old topic...
BoneyardBrew
The list of services is my favorite part of his site. I always visit it when I reinstall my OS.

Eh...didn't realize I just bumped a thread from the end of June. My mistake sad.gif.
crp
Want to use Tweaked Settings from here, but I need to use modem, if I enable tweaked settings then modem dont work hmm.gif what service i need to enable to get modem work ? hmm.gif
ZX2
Quote - (Jack 0Neill @ Apr 21 2008, 20:49) *
Do anything that site suggests, and you break your computer! Good job!


Benn using it since 2001, if it broke YOU broke it. Not the site.
cropcircles
After I had all my tweaks in Vista set up I really had no problems. Games performed well without any issues also. Thats my PC and who knows what junk, services running, software, etc on someone else's machine might cause these issues and Vista always would take the heat.
crp
Quote - (crp @ Aug 25 2009, 17:38) *
Want to use Tweaked Settings from here, but I need to use modem, if I enable tweaked settings then modem dont work hmm.gif what service i need to enable to get modem work ? hmm.gif


some 1?
Neoauld
i followed his Vista services guide and it worked well, i read every descirption before making a decision, and my Vista system runs way faster than my W7 install, im sure once W7 gets tweaked itll be faster but overall im happy with his guides
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