Help - Search - Members - Calendar
Full Version: Firefox 3 RC1 just killed DPI scaling
Neowin Forums > Help & Discussion Center > Software Discussion & Assistance > Web Browser Discussion > Firefox (Gecko)
1Way Jonny
I use my computer on a 61 LED DLP

I use vista DPI scaling to make sure everything is nice and readable the buttons and menus are large. its set to 150% or 144pixels

Since Firefox 3 has been alpha it was the best web browser for me based that it had DPI scaling. The buttons, menus, web pages are all perfectly fit (DPI scaled and enlarged )then second I installed it no configuration. Every build.

Until RC1

My buttons, menus are microdots and so is the web. I can use its zoom feature to make the web biggers but my buttons are on default large and cant make them bigger. they killed the feature where it would look at your DPI windows scale and auto set the browser.

I cant even manually do it as for as I know...

Please help me get this back with maybe some hidden features or configuration. I know firefox has the configuration page but have no idea what to change or if its even there...

I will go crazy if this feature is no more available I will go back to beta 5 if I have too. My res is 1920 x 1080 and I sit about 5-8 feet back

1. I would love some help from you firefox nuts
2. A link where I can complain to Mozilla where it could actually be read

**EDIT**
Put up screen shot everything I circled in red is small. If you look at the start menu for vista it has nice clear text and icons, firefox3 (not 2) had the same enhancement with no configuration period. not look at the size of the text difference and the icons for the my favorites onthe top and the navigation buttons eveything is small

8 feet back this make things unreadable...

Im going crazy already please help
Huleboeren
I have no idea how to fix your problem but can I see a picture of that 61 LED DLP? tongue.gif
1Way Jonny
Quote - (Huleboeren @ May 18 2008, 00:24) *
I have no idea how to fix your problem but can I see a picture of that 61 LED DLP? tongue.gif


sure

horrible iphone pictures

It has 7.1 fiber optic Dolby Digtal to a Yamaha Reciever w/ a Bose Sound System
Quad Core
Stiker Extreme
4GB OCZ Reaper Mem

Gary7
Remove it. Go back to Beta 5 or 2.0.
1Way Jonny
Quote - (Gary7 @ May 18 2008, 00:39) *
Remove it. Go back to Beta 5 or 2.0.


it was introduced in firefox 3, 2 didnt have the feature

it must be some hidden option but i would rather learn how to do it if possible instead of using beta 5 for the rest of my life =(
1Way Jonny
browser. display. screen_resolution Integer Firefox 1.5 only DPI of display device. Affects CSS absolute length units (e.g. pt, mm).
-1 (default): Use the operating system's logical resolution or 96 DPI, whichever is greater
0: Force use of operating system's logical resolution
thumbs_down.gif: Assume screen DPI of n. Default DPI is 96.
Note: In Firefox, this can be changed via "Tools → Options → Content → Advanced → Display Resolution". See browser. screen_resolution for Firefox 1.0.x or layout. css. dpi for Firefox 2.0+.



just found some info on this

man this really blows

the option is there but not in firefox 3
1Way Jonny
installed firefox beta5 back, everything was small before, firefox 3 gave me hope the jacked it

just to show how dramatic it is i put up another screen look at the menus, button on top of my favorites sites, option menus and the navigation buttons
Gary7
Geez maybe Asa Dotzler can help you. Or just file a bug report.

asa@mozilla.org

1Way Jonny
Quote - (Gary7 @ May 18 2008, 00:56) *


yes this is the option i need
layout.css.dpi

but its not in the about:config does anybody knnow how to edit this this is what I need NOT a ZOOM feature
Quote -
Caveats

* This preference is not meant as a general “zoom” feature to scale all rendered web content.
* This preference has no effect in Windows (the OS’s DPI setting is queried directly).
Julius Caro
mmm let me get this straight
firefox completely disregards the OSs DPI settings? before rc1 you could see the text in the correct size without doing a zoom? I have tried rc1 on ubuntu and apparently firefox overrides the font hinting/antialiasing configuration and it looks like crap. so to me it sounds like something's broken now that wasn't broken before

As for the icons, I'm not sure DPI should affect the icons on the firefox toolbar, unless the icons are set to resize themselves inside the toolbar in case the text size increases.

Anyway, I would report a bug or check the mozilla zine forums in case more people are reporting problems like this.

I would suggest you to revert back to beta 5.
1Way Jonny
Quote - (Julius Caro @ May 18 2008, 01:09) *
mmm let me get this straight
firefox completely disregards the OSs DPI settings? before rc1 you could see the text in the correct size without doing a zoom? I have tried rc1 on ubuntu and apparently firefox overrides the font hinting/antialiasing configuration and it looks like crap. so to me it sounds like something's broken now that wasn't broken before

As for the icons, I'm not sure DPI should affect the icons on the firefox toolbar, unless the icons are set to resize themselves inside the toolbar in case the text size increases.

Anyway, I would report a bug or check the mozilla zine forums in case more people are reporting problems like this.

I would suggest you to revert back to beta 5.


yes the DPI ONLY got scaled in firefox 3 the buttons menus everything, look at the first screen shot of the start menu text size and the browser, then look at the text between the two again on the second screen shot where i installed beta 5 back. Its a huge difference and it went into the menus, the address bar.

Even look the the back and foward buttons, the tabs firefox 3 rescaled every part of the UI its a great feature.

This was not the zoom feature, i didnt even have the zoom "ON" that beta 5 screen shot is the default option & look

If you guys have beta in vista 5 in vista (not sure about XP) change your DPI if you have a high res and watch the firefox match what you change it too

**EDIT**
i believe this is the correct thing to edit "Layout.css.dpi" its not the about:config in Firefox 3 beta 5 or RC1, the description of what "Layout.css.dpi" does is right on the money but missing, how else to edit this?
Gary7
Have you tried a different theme? Classic Compact 3.07 is compatible with RC1.
Julius Caro
someone else reporting the same thing on mozilla zine, I believe
http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?t=656301

apparently an extension might solve your problems


1Way Jonny
Quote - (Gary7 @ May 18 2008, 01:21) *
Have you tried a different theme? Classic Compact 3.07 is compatible with RC1.


thanks but i just want the default theme, this has nothing to do with the theme or anything but the information you found about scaling
"Layout.css.dpi"

Quote - (Julius Caro @ May 18 2008, 01:25) *
someone else reporting the same thing on mozilla zine, I believe
http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?t=656301

apparently an extension might solve your problems


dont need the extension because that feature for global min ZOOM is in firefox, after he installed he still had the same problem with the GUI being small and not scaled. looking to get the web and the GUI scaled with no plugins

chrome has the ability to do it its just has a name change for the option in about:config

can someone with an account there post this link so he can see the issue here...
Jugalator
Hmm, if this regressed in RC1, it really do sound like a bug should be filed at it on Bugzilla. :-/
Gary7
There is this extension that isa compatible that will allow you to edit CSS.

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/179
1Way Jonny
Quote - (Jugalator @ May 18 2008, 01:33) *
Hmm, if this regressed in RC1, it really do sound like a bug should be filed at it on Bugzilla. :-/


I filed something on mozilla website can you give a link to where i should def submit to?

Quote - (Gary7 @ May 18 2008, 01:36) *
There is this extension that isa compatible that will allow you to edit CSS.

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/179


thanks ill try it now



Guys your support has been great we all know now what the problem is and this feature of CSS/Chrome just need to fix it
Gary7
You can file a bug report here https://www.mozdev.org/bugs/enter_bug.cgi You will have to register and login. It shouldn't take long.
1Way Jonny
checked out the ADDON its has so much to edit i dont know where to look =(

but i am still reading through it
1Way Jonny
Quote - (Gary7 @ May 18 2008, 01:47) *
You can file a bug report here https://www.mozdev.org/bugs/enter_bug.cgi You will have to register and login. It shouldn't take long.


Ok i registered and hit Submit bug when i get in and it gives a list of thousand of things to enter a bug about but no "Firefox"

this look like bug reports for addons, its says must pick a product to submit to
1Way Jonny
Please guys can you confirm this on your end please confirm it here

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=434257

this would be much appreciated
1Way Jonny
Quote -
If that option doesn't exist in about:config, just create it (right-click -> New -> Integer).

http://kb.mozillazine.org/Layout.css.dpi


ok got good and bad news

you can add this option to the about:config in beta5 and change from -1 or 1 or 0 and it effect's exactly what we are talking about make everything go big small big small

we have found it and it works...

so i install RC1 back and added "Layout.css.dpi" in the about:config and set -1 then 1 then 0, just like in beta5, and it did nothing they definitely broke this... back to beta 5

grrr at least i know how to change this manually now, they just broke the option in RC1 which explains why the default mode isn't working automatically it's because the manual mode is broke
The_Decryptor
You set the DPI in the value, your monitor isn't 1DPI it ignores that value.

Set it to 96, 192, etc. (-1 is a special value, makes it take it form the OS)

Although it does look like it's a bug, so if people can verify it (and when it regressed) it should get fixed.

Edit: ok, didn't know it also took 0 as a special number)
GamblerFEXonlin
Isn't it because the site uses pixels to define text, instead of points? Many websites have this problem, also newscientist.com.

souldreamer
Wow, this thread is almost one year old.
The_Decryptor
There's nothing wrong with pixel units, CSS pixels are a "virtual" unit, they always equal 1/96th of an inch, regardless of the output device DPI/PPI. 10px on screen and on print (96dpi vs. 1200dpi) should be the same physical size.

Now, even though I said there's nothing wrong with them (contradiction time) there is, they interfere with the minimum font size (apparently) and in IE (yay!) they don't scale at all with the text size setting (which it should, consider it a old bug they haven't fixed)
This is a "lo-fi" version of our main content. To view the full version with more information, formatting and images, please click here.
Invision Power Board © 2001-2009 Invision Power Services, Inc.