Well, I had a little catch on apple.com on their mobileme page...



Look familiar? Yup, that's Firefox. Not Safari, which a year ago Apple essentially vowed to wipe off the face of the earth (remember that pie chart?).

I just found it interesting, but it begs a question: is Apple giving up on Safari for Windows in its current form?

http://www.apple.com/mobileme/

Also worth noting, http://www.apple.com/safari/ now mentions the PC version more as an aside; that is, there is now only a screenshot of Safari for Mac. The only noticeable mention of a PC version is in the small text under "Download". Sorry, it shows the screenshot based on the user agent.

http://digg.com/apple/Apple_shows_Firefox_on_MobileMe_page

I hope so. Safari is just....****.

I doubt they're giving up on it. I'm going to assume that the person who took that photo just got fired.

I did just send that to the web team for correction.

Digg link in first post, someone on IRC recommended it.

dugg 4 u

Dugg also But maybe it's just to emphasise that the laptop is running Vista?

Could be, but Apple's been pushing their branding very hard. I doubt they're giving up on Safari, but they might've realized that theming it like OS X isn't the way to go. At least I hope they have.

No matter what, it's either an interesting slip up or an interesting move on Apple's part.

I still don't think Apple ever seriously intended Safari to be widely used on non-macs. But they had to play it as so in order to get Web Developers not to ignore Safari when designing web pages.

Software market share on Windows is much more competitive.

Besides, unlike iTunes, there's no money to be made in the Web Browser world.

Wonder who's going to be fired over this.

Yes. IMO Safari on Windows is solely for developers.

Are you kidding me? How do you think Mozilla have been able to fund Firefox?
Though that search box that have at the top, and how the default homepage is Google. (This may be different if you import your IE settings however, never done that myself.)

If they wanted it to look more like Vista, then they should've used IE tbh.

I really don't think it matters. As pointed out, I think Apple was simply making it clear that they were showing off Vista. And who knows, maybe people assume that if they see Safari, it's Mac OS X, regardless of what the user interface looks like.

There's nothing to correct.

The point of the ad is that MobileMe will work on any platform in almost any environment. They've announced they will officially support IE7, FF2 & Safari 3 and higher ... the ad is simply displaying that in a graphic.

What a silly thread.

But if they were showing off Vista, why wouldn't they use IE7? People recognize that more than they recognize Firefox.

Yeah, I was thinking on the same line here.

Nothing to stop someone on OSX putting a Vista wallpaper on. They probably could've avoided this by including the task bar, and perhaps putting the computer on the right instead of the left so that we can see the start button.

I'd rather use Internet Explorer 6 than Safari on Windows .

Or did the graphics desing people at Apple just make a mistake? always have to take the most complex answer dont we?

hmm, I downloaded Safari two days ago and I love it..

Everyone to their own opinion.

To promote Web Standards.

Watch the Guided Tour video. There are close-ups of FF on Vista.

Thats Firefox?

I only see Safari?

Agreed. And for someone who works for Apple to submit it for correction is pretty funny. I'll bet the response is same as yours. "We are showing that MobileMe can be used on the Windows platform in another browser."

It's a good thing Apple only has these conferences twice a year. Because twice a year the community shows how dumb it can be at any given moment. People just do not understand the point, nor the history of these conferences.

Yeah, given this thread and its absurdity I'm surprised no one's sending reports into the web team like this: OMG OMG OMG WTF your new ad has a PC in it!!!?!?!?! Aren't these the very PC's that you have essentially vowed to wipe off the face of the earth? OMG FIX IT NOWWWW!!!!"

Fun thing to think about.

when Safari was mac only, it had more combined users than Opera on Windows, Linux and Mac.

Now it runs on windows, it's got even more.

its on the Mobileme section for PC also, it looks like FF anyway

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And it's not just the photo's, it's also in all of the tours. So basically Apple has to redo almost everything on the MobileMe pages...

I like how they show off the product on Vista Basic

Safari isn't even a good browser on OSX, so more FF is fine by me...

Agreed.

I dunno, I'm a huge fan of Safari on OS X, and can't stand Firefox (even the RC builds of Firefox 3). It's exactly the opposite on Windows.

I think they are acknowledging the fact that Safari is the worst browser on Windows

Anything to show Vista down, typical apple.

I noticed this the other day. Although it wasn't just on this page, it was on another page of Apple.com promoting MobileMe, where you could clearly see a full browser window of Firefox on Windows Vista... so unless they've updated the page a bit or there is another page aswell?



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I think the odd thing is that Apple aren't showing Windows with IE rather than FF or Safari.

We are all aware that Safari is very much developer based; I love it on Mac, but my work PC it's shocking how unstable it is.

But again, it would make more sense to show off it in IE on PC and Safari on Mac. Use the native browsers in all.

Or they could just have Glass disabled.

It was disabled for me (on Ultimate) after I installed my graphics card drivers (for some reason)

I noticed the same was done on Firefox's page. Perhaps these are all run on virtual machines? I just fail to see why they'd use such an ugly GUI over Aero.

I work in Web Development, but I think everybody is the same that when developing IMHO; Aero just seems to hog a lot of resources and just slows things down. I had to set up a laptop for a demo, but it was brand new with Vista on it; rather than take the time and downgrade to XP, I just turned off all the fancy Vista UI stuff to get it running the same speed as XP running all the functional-fancy UI stuff.

rofl got to love it how they are running it in vista basic and not aero

DWM.exe is using 48MB on my system right now and flying. How is that a resource hog?

Maybe not in terms of RAM usage, but in terms of having to utilize other hardware such as your CPU/GPU also? I use Vista myself to test work on IE7 and turn all the visual effects off too, so I can allocate the machine less resources, most certainly including RAM.

You're missing the point. Aero Glass uses the GPU for hardware accleration, as it should. I'm one of those rare people, you know, that would rather have the hardware I purchased be put to good use. On XP, the GPU wasn't used properly, and all the visual effects taxed your CPU.

There's a reason Snow Leopard will be moving to more hardware acceleration, as well.

Others have already chimed in, but I want to as well. Aero is no resource hog and tests have proven this. Does it consume more resources? Yes. How much more? An insignificant amount. I'm in web development as well and love working on my Vista machine, but my work machine is XP and I would rather it not be. To each his own I guess, but it's obvious they neglected to use Aero for whatever reason. It's not a big deal, so meh.

How am I missing the point, when I clearly mentioned utilizing alternative hardware such as both the CPU & GPU? Maybe I know more about Windows, than you do Mac OS X, if you're really trying to make me believe Snow Leopard is really delivering the oh so long awaited hardware acceleration to Aqua.

Beaten like a dead horse, but...

By turning off Aero, you're actually making your CPU do more work, which will slow down software rendering (like Firefox is doing)