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Neobond
Hey guys,

The cost of subscription was set way back in 2004 and used to include email (but also, less "enhanced services"). While we aren't planning to drastically change the current pricing, my question to you guys would be: What would you be prepared to pay in US Dollars?

My initial thought would be 15 bucks and ditch the ever fluctuating euro, it would work in our favour too, seeing as we now have an American LLC which handles everything in US Dollars.

So, how much should we set the basic subscriber cost in US Dollars

.. and how much would you be prepared to pay for an ad-less version of Neowin annually?
xirtamdbml
Id be willing to pay up to $25 for subscription and up to $50 for ad-less version of Neowin!

I think $15-$25 is probably a good price for basic, and $30-$50 for ad-less!
gregb0b
$15 sounds good, and for an ad-less neowin I'd pay 60$ annually tongue.gif.
Redmak
I think $15 isn't a bad price.

Even though I'm not bothered by the ads on Neowin I would be willing to pay $50 a year for an ad free website
Neobond
Maybe I should add a vote, hmm..

I did null vote to keep it fair..
xirtamdbml
Quote - (Neobond @ Jun 12 2008, 12:44) *
Maybe I should add a vote, hmm..


Yeah good idea smile.gif

I think an option to donate more at anytime would be a good idea, i defiantly would have donate more in the last few years tongue.gif
Gary7
$12-15.00 US is OK. I would not pay for an ad free Neowin.

There is not a choice not to pay for an ad free Neowin, so I could not vote.
Coldgunner
I agree with Redmak, $50 (£25 for me) would be well worth it for an ad-less neowin, maybe up to about £15 ($30) for a sub in its current state.

so:
$30 w/ads
$50 wo/ads
$75 for access to the hand woven bogroll /me glances at mephistopheles
Crazysah
15$ subscription and 60$ annually!
Rappy
I would probably pay around $50 as well
stevember
Well I pay just to support.

I don't think ads are pain enough to warrant me pay more than $15-$20 to get rid of them. However I would not suggest making them more a pain.

The biggest problem is not overpricing the current maybe one-day subscribe.

All replies here from paying members you need ask non paying...
RebelSean
$15 or $20 sounds reasonable for the subscription. I don't think I'd ever pay for an ad-free website becuase I'm not bothered by them smile.gif.
Audioboxer
I'd say around $15 to subscribe, $20 tops, and like £10 UK money or there bouts - Or say £15 tops.

For ad-less I think $50/60 is a bit much, I'd think around 2x the subscribe amount - So around $30, maybe $40 tops.

However if you were able to show each person in a year earns more money for NW through the ads than $30/40 I'd reconsider my stance.

You could maybe introduce varying levels of subscription benefits,

Say $10/$15 - Basic entry, increased PMs and editing abilities or something.

Say $15/$20 - Advanced entry, same benefits as above, but also some other perks...

Same with adds

Say $20-$30 - Basic entry, no ads on part X of the site, but ads displayed on part Y.

Say $30-$40 - Advanced entry, no adds at all.

That may encourage more sign ups from people that won't pay as much as only the one option gives... As with one option it's subscribe or don't, with multiple you have more options for members, and therefore potentially more sign-ups.

(replace figures above with whatever you agree on)
lylesback2
Funny how this comes up on the day my subscription expires...

Will we be seeing anything added in the near future (month or two) or else I am just going to renew my subscription tonight
Tantawi
I'd pay $15-$20, only if Neowin is kind enough to provide an additional credit card processor that can handle payment from countries that doesn't have PayPal support yet (ie. Egypt) 2checkout.com and moneybookers.com are a good alternatives (we went on this discussion already in an older thread with no solution! sad.gif ) I personally know 4 Egyptian members that will subscribe immediately if such an option is available, not to mention the hundreds others who can't use PayPal or the UK processor.

The last time I subscribed I asked a friend with a PayPal account (giving him my user-name and password) and then transferred the amount to him via WU which is too expensive when transferring only ten Euros!

For the ad-free service, honestly I'm not interested and can't afford paying for it.
Berserk87
as much as i love neowin, $15 is were i draw the line.

the ads dont bother me at all.

if i was paying more than $15 there'd better be some nice new features.
troist
I guess I would probably just about pay $50 a year for ad-less... I doubt neowin get much profit off me for the ads anyway since I can't remember ever clicking them on purpose or by accident. $50 would be more for the convience of just not having them there.
Mathachew
I was going to subscribe a few months ago, but then noticed that the $10 I thought I was going to pay was actually $15, so I didn't. Money is extremely tight atm, so I'm kind of glad that I didn't then, but that doesn't rule out a future possibility. $10 would be a sweet spot for me, unless I had more money to dish out.
virtorio
I'd pay no more than $15 for a subscription but wouldn't pay anything for an 'add free' version.
Popcorned1
No chance on the ad free version. I would pay $10 for a subsribers account.
Julius Caro
for an ad-less neowin, I guess you could calculate how much money you stop earning per user that doesnt see ads

as for a basic subscription, 15 bucks is fine. I wouldn't pay any more than that for an ad-less neowin, anyway.
Better expressed, 'ad-free' is not a feature that would drive me to pay money. Other goodies would.
RAID 0
I'd pay $20 for a subscription and $50 for ad free.

The only things that are stopping me from subscribing:

1. I lose my stars. I Would like to keep them, but have other changes (like name in orange) that set us apart.
2. You should do a deal where if you subscribe, you get 3 warnings ( or more ) taken away. If you offered that, I'd buy in next week.
dysmatik
yeah it's kinda steep these dayz...depends how much you wub.gif neowin I guess
Deaf Spacker
Quote - (RAID 0 @ Jun 13 2008, 00:21) *
I'd pay $20 for a subscription and $50 for ad free.

The only things that are stopping me from subscribing:

1. I lose my stars. I Would like to keep them, but have other changes (like name in orange) that set us apart.
2. You should do a deal where if you subscribe, you get 3 warnings ( or more ) taken away. If you offered that, I'd buy in next week.

Wut?

That's like offering to buy your way out of a prison sentence laugh.gif

It'll never happen.
StevoFC
$15 basic, and probably $60 ad free.
bangbang023
Quote - (RAID 0 @ Jun 12 2008, 19:21) *
2. You should do a deal where if you subscribe, you get 3 warnings ( or more ) taken away. If you offered that, I'd buy in next week.

Not a chance of that ever happening. Subscribers are just as responsible for their actions as standard members are.
Rappy
Quote - (RAID 0 @ Jun 13 2008, 00:21) *
I'd pay $20 for a subscription and $50 for ad free.

The only things that are stopping me from subscribing:

1. I lose my stars. I Would like to keep them, but have other changes (like name in orange) that set us apart.
2. You should do a deal where if you subscribe, you get 3 warnings ( or more ) taken away. If you offered that, I'd buy in next week.


You will never get warns taken away for money.
rm20010
Quote - (RAID 0 @ Jun 12 2008, 19:21) *
2. You should do a deal where if you subscribe, you get 3 warnings ( or more ) taken away. If you offered that, I'd buy in next week.


Could you imagine, say, a strong political advocate from the right (or left) donating a thousand dollars to Neowin and spending all day throwing personal attacks at liberal- or conservative- leaning members in RWI? Or a well-to-do Apple user donating said amount to trash Microsoft at every article? Or a guy with seven PS3s (with a shotgun laugh.gif) donating that same amount to-

You get the point. That would be a major eyesore. pinch.gif

Oh and personally I'd just donate the base amount. I don't care much about the extras - heck I haven't opened up my blog yet.
Ste
Quote - (StevoFC @ Jun 13 2008, 14:39) *
$15 basic, and probably $60 ad free.

^what steve said
lcg
I voted $15 - I wouldn't pay much more, and that's not anything against Neowin - it's just that I need to save money for more worthwhile things. I voted $50 for a subscription with no ads, but only because there isn't a 'I wouldn't want a no ads subscription'. The ads are so subtle most of the time, I find it hard to believe why people would pay so much money for it. Also, about subscription extras - I couldn't care about those. I don't use the blog features at all (although I did do a test post when the service first opened, but I soon closed the blog).
se7en.hu
whats the big deal about ad-less blink.gif

its like two little images top and bottom, completely out of sight ..
Crazysah
Quote - (lcg @ Jun 13 2008, 22:13) *
I voted $15 - I wouldn't pay much more, and that's not anything against Neowin - it's just that I need to save money for more worthwhile things. I voted $50 for a subscription with no ads, but only because there isn't a 'I wouldn't want a no ads subscription'. The ads are so subtle most of the time, I find it hard to believe why people would pay so much money for it. Also, about subscription extras - I couldn't care about those. I don't use the blog features at all (although I did do a test post when the service first opened, but I soon closed the blog).


I would like to know then why did you subscribe in the first place? Just to help the site to keep going?
lcg
Quote - (Crazysah @ Jun 13 2008, 19:28) *
I would like to know then why did you subscribe in the first place? Just to help the site to keep going?

Yeah, exactly - I subscribe to contribute to the site, as it costs a lot to run and the staff put a lot of effort into the site (yes, I know the moderators and so forth don't get paid, but you know what I mean tongue.gif). I doubt I would pay any more than $20 because I don't really have the money to spend a lot on a subscription (which, with no offense to Neowin, isn't on my priority list of things to buy). I just want to contribute, and I don't do it for the services that Neowin lay on (although my PM box does have over 100 messages in it!).
Crazysah
Yeah. Thats what I was wondering. If I had money then I would have done that too... I may use the blog though. I have no money now though!
jayr0
i myself would pay $15 im not worried about ads at all
Jimmy0
I would pay $20 for a basic subscription, and I wouldn't bother with the ad-free one because the ads don't bother me at all.
Berserk87
i subscribed because of certain annoyances for me.

everytime i wanted to search something, i would click 'active posts' by accident or something else, and have to wait 10 seconds or so to do my search, then wait to do another....

also my pm's keep filling up =\
Sam Symons Live
I don't think I'd shell out over NZ$100 just to remove a few ads that never get in my way anyway. But I know some people would...so that's ok smile.gif
sundayx
To be honest I'd definitely pay $6-8 for just the subscriber tag and remove the flood delay. The blog (to me personally) useless, increased attachment/inbox a bit useless, exclusive forum useless (but I don't know what goes on in there), and other added features I did not mention, probably useless since I don't know about it. Then perhaps a bit more ($15 as many suggested) for the complete package, and ditching out anything over $20/25 for ad-less experience is pretty much a rip considering extensions and other workarounds.
Couch Potato
I probably shouldn't be talking as I'm still not subscribed but I reckon you can go pretty high ( $ 50 ) for an ad-free Neowin. However, only a few people are bothered by them and they are mostly - not all - people who do not contribute a lot to the site. Will they be willing to pay $ 50?

People who have been here 1,2 or more years never minded the ads and still don't. I don't reckon they will pay $ 50 to have the site ad-free but they'd rather pay as support.
Ruiz
I'm fine with paying $15 dollars and nothing more.






<---- I just wanted that badass gold banner under my name. Oh yeah!
Neon Tiger
I wouldn't mind paying 20$ but I can't cause in India its tough to pay money online, as the lines here aren't very secure. Ad-free version seems a tad stupid, but I'd go with 60$.
se7en.hu
im fine with the price I paid, whatever it was. wouldn't pay more for ad-less. I don't use any of the features that come with a subscriber status, only reason I did it was cause I been on the site a while, confident i've ripped a decent amount of their bandwidth and I felt the owners deserved a beer on me.
[deXter]
"I'd pay $60 and probably donate a bit more"

If:

- Filetype restrictions on attachments are removed. I think it's silly that I can't attach a .bat or .vbs, but I can zip it up and attach it. What's the point?

- Ratings system is overhauled. At the moment, it's practically useless.

- Slashdot-like comment rating+viewing is implemented. Urgently needed, to wade through the sea of useless comments one comes across in a thread. We want quality over quantity.
HappyAndyK
USD 20 sounds good enough.
Coldgunner
I don't mean to be 'that guy' but
http://www.neowin.net/forum/index.php?show...t=0&start=0
SakuraKira
I tried to vote for only the $20 option, but that wasn't really allowed.

Quote -
Sorry, an error occurred. If you are unsure on how to use a feature, or don't know why you got this error message, try looking through the help files for more information.

The error returned was:

You did not choose a poll choice to vote against. Please go back and ensure you click on one of the radio buttons next to the choice you wish to vote for.


Anyway... I would pay $15 for a basic, and $20 for ad-free. I think a $5 increase is appropriate, considering that the current ads really aren't obtrusive. Do you guys really make so much from ads that you would have to have as high as $50 for ad-free (yes I realize this mainly goes toward paying for your gigantic bandwidth fees)?
NienorGT
The Ad-Free MUST be life-time. And have more "features" than just Ad-Free.
Neowin is good, but I don't see myself paying more to surf Neowin Ad-Free than a sub of Object Desktop (35$/Yrs).
Matrix XII
I'd pay $20 for normal subscription, but I don't mind the adds so I wouldn't be prepared to spend over $30
MasterC
Quote - (Mathachew @ Jun 12 2008, 16:01) *
I was going to subscribe a few months ago, but then noticed that the $10 I thought I was going to pay was actually $15, so I didn't. Money is extremely tight atm, so I'm kind of glad that I didn't then, but that doesn't rule out a future possibility. $10 would be a sweet spot for me, unless I had more money to dish out.

I agree. Money is tight for me too, and $10 sounds perfect.
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